Guild Wars 2

I am on blackgate and when I think back to our rise It was epic, but it was also a drag. Trying our hardest sometimes failing, and sometimes winning I imagine its what all severs apart from blackgate feel now.

I love wvw and I am sure everyone else does as well, but allot of dread comes with the current system; It shows just how fantastic of a job you guys did creating a war exp. but at the top there really are not any great victories because for the most part our enemies have been stomped into oblivion and seem to degrade each week.

I honestly think that It might be better if we went back to 24 hour match ups to kill the black dog of war in this game.

We could do the one week match ups once a month, once every 3 months, or maybe a big tournament once a year. Something that will make it an event where everyone on all servers does there best and puts as much effort as they can in that week or those few weeks. Right now we all just go through the motions the first half of the week and are coasting the last half. It’s only a matter of time before we go hollow.

“War is hell, but that’s not the half of it, because war is also mystery and terror and adventure and courage and discovery and holiness and pity and despair and longing and love. War is nasty; war is fun. War is thrilling; war is drudgery. War makes you a man; war makes you dead.” Tim O’Brien, The Things They Carried

Cliff Note version..

“I am burnt out cause I been playing too much…”

/end thread

I can see how you could take that from it, but I’m not really burnt out. I had our opposition in mind, wvw as a whole, and even “GvG”. I spend a lot of time on the forums and read almost every thread it sounds like some people are going hollow.

I think it is because even though it is a fantastic game mode there are really no highlights. Spvp has big tourneys, pve has big events, and we have a job lol. It’s the reason the "GvG"ers are so adamant about what they do and the reason we have been seeing so many posts about how the devs don’t care, though we all know they have done an amazing job with what we have.

If it is something as simple as that it can be done without any development. Also the glory of some grand wvw tourney sounds pretty amazing and the 24 hour matches would give servers time to prep, a chance to feel out other servers, as well as build morale.

So I figured I would toss this out there and see what everyone else thought.

Some more variety in wvw would be nice.

But anet being anet im not too sure we’ll be happy with what we wish for heh…

Rawr.5930:

Some more variety in wvw would be nice.

But anet being anet im not too sure we’ll be happy with what we wish for heh…

Completely agree, we need more variety. If I am not mistaken, Anet does plan on bringing orbs back.

I think Anet will be with happy with any ideas that has very little cost with high potential benefit to both the players and themselves(I will go into profit potential if this thread gets some footing).

The power is yours …. GO PLANET!! …lol

Seigfried.5938:

Rawr.5930:

Some more variety in wvw would be nice.

But anet being anet im not too sure we’ll be happy with what we wish for heh…

Completely agree, we need more variety. If I am not mistaken, Anet does plan on bringing orbs back.

Based on the orb thread and how it’s likely to be an open control point, i really cant see how this would not favor the larger server.

Adding an orb buff ontop of population imbalances could potentially KILL wvw on smaller servers, and result in even more stacking on the top 6 or so servers pop wise, exacerbating the already incredibly zergy gameplay in t1/2, and creating technical issues like skill lag.

I really do not like the idea of orb stat buffs, and am really pressed to see how this could be positive for wvw as a whole for ALL servers.

Back on topic I agree with op and think those are some great ideas. Both 24 hour matches and tourneys.

Unless there are multiple things you can do with the orb aside from the buff it will be a big let down. The quaggans leaving is a bit telling and cause of worry since no one likes underwater combat., But this will prolly be in conjunction with underwater stomp. There were posts around a year ago that talked about placing a mega boss into the lake that would drop an orb of power and would spawn at random but we will just have to wait and see I guess.
“I really do not like the idea of orb stat buffs, and am really pressed to see how this could be positive for wvw as a whole for ALL servers.”
I can’t agree more wvw is already a ghost town the last few day of the matches. I don’t see how they plan to keep what ever it is away from someone that has control of a map. It will add to the value of oceanic sea players, make it even harder to regain a map, and make the morale problems much worse.

Daily resets might be nice. I always find the most fun in WvW is had in the first few hours of a match. After that? One big pile of meh unless we can get some GvGs in.

Yea same the weekends are when I always have the most fun. With 24 hour matches it would allow servers with out 24/7 coverage to compete with the large servers. All it would take is a few commanders/guilds to say you know what we are going to trash these guys they might have the coverage, but we are better than they are lets pull an all nighter and show them whats up.

I totally agree that WvW needs some variety. Orbs and a map-change will make things seem fresh for a few weeks, but 6 months from now it’ll once again feel tired and repetitive.
Things need to change on a weekly, if not a daily basis. Of course I don’t expect a new map every day, but maybe some different achievements to aim for or events to complete each week (PvP, not PvE events). I made a rather lengthy post about this a few weeks back, which met with general approval. But of course ANet and their bum-lickers on the forums keep insisting nobody is making any useful or thought-out suggestions.

I’m not sure 24-hour matchups will help all that much. You’ll probably end up with even bigger blow-outs. People will decide “well, we’re not winning today, best not bother, and try again tomorrow”. It’s easy to throw in the towel on a 24-hour match, harder to do so on a week-long match. And of course some servers are very strong on weekends and weak on other days, so rankings would become useless. IMO 3 days is the minimum for a matchup that people will care about.

If not daily resets then have resets on Fri night and Sunday night. A weekend match and a weekday match.

@ragnar
Most servers can’t cover 24/7 and what the rankings show are correct for the most part these top 3 or 4 servers will most likely never be beaten by anyone below them but 24 hour matches would allow the servers under them a chance to. The ratings would become a better barometer of skill/coverage instead of coverage alone.

About people saying “well we are not going to win today we will try again at reset” you will see that on weekdays because there are servers with isolated coverage and people have jobs, but it is better to end there suffering then to make them endure it for a week over something that they can’t really do a lot about.

An added benefit to the change is it would show time zone over populations and hopefully cause the servers to balance a bit more. If you only have one day to fight in a big match up everyone will want to get in there and get a piece of the action.

@johje holan
I think that would be a positive change as well.