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Posted by: Norbe.7630

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so basically this survey a in game link am i right?
whats the difference between this thread and this one
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Your-top-5-priorities-for-WvW-Overhaul/page/16#post6076374

personal question:
what is WvW for you? define WvW

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Posted by: Angel Heart.6739

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Something like that but with like a total overiew of possible options for the entirety of WvW, not just giving your five best options, it would take in account all your suggestions and ideas.

I kinda sampled all the options from the different parts and threads that were in the WvW part of the gw2 forum and added some extra options, its not complete other options still can be added.

They should all be selectable, the draft-list is mentioned in different posts further above in this topic, this being said it would like give real global data, like a broader overview of what interested players see and want in WvW.

I added also a possible msg for the GW 2 on-join for the game and yes it would link players to the poll/survey here.

And in the end-msg. there would be a question wetter players would like to contribute more to the forum asking them to participate.

The more players co-operate, the more info you all get and the more players refer to this forum that’s basically the idea.

Its an idea which i think would be positive for WvW, not said that all agree though.
Can’t tell you wetter this initiative will ever have a result i don’t have a lookingglass to predict the future.

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Posted by: Angel Heart.6739

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Introductory formula for on-join msg in Gw 2:

A) On-join message:
title:
Working together on a stable and lasting future for World Versus World

Concerned as we are about our different game-formats and all the players that actually play WvW, we find it very important for you to know that we are working together
with you on building a stable future for World Versus World. It has become apparent that World Versus World needs to be a lasting game that you enjoy playing on a daily basis,
thats why its so important to know your thoughts as WvW-players.
We cannot do this without the help of all the players that are really interested in WvW though hence, we have devised this poll to see what you really enjoy, dislike and
would like to see included into WvW.
By clicking on this link you will be redirected to our WvW poll / survey.
Thank you all for participating! :-)

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Posted by: Angel Heart.6739

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content and categories in poll/survey:

- General changes
- Changes to the server-system
- Changes specific individual servers
- Borderland changes
- Eternal Battleground changes
- Edge of the Mists changes

- Personnal comments

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Posted by: Angel Heart.6739

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Draftlist (not complete)

A) General changes
This category reflects on the general aspects of WvW

1) we need more action
- the action is good as its now atm
- we need less action more focus on support
- we like to fight give us more fights
- make WvW more action packed

2) we need more rewards
-Do not change anything
-Less rewards
-more badges
-bether drops
-more money
-WvW reward tracks giving ascendet or legendary weapons
-WvW specific legenday weapons and armor
-gold silver bronze rewards for being the highest server on a daily basis based on PPT score of your Server
-gold silver bronze rewards for being the highest server on a weekly basis based on PPT score of your Server
-more competitions)
3) we need less PvE stuff in WvW
-less quests
-no PVE stuff at all
-do not remove the PVE stuff
-add more PVE stuff

4) we need less build time on the objectives
- WvW is good as it is
-slow down building processes
-faster build-times
-less dolyaks needed to upgrade objectives
5) WvW needs to be more affordable
-the costs are good as they are
-Its not expensive enough
-the costs for making WvW items need to go down
-the costs for upgrading items trough the Guild hall needs to be less demanding
(camps, towers, keeps)
6) Stability
- reintroduce stability
- adapt stability
- let stability remain as it is
7) allow flying in WvW
- allow flying in WvW

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Posted by: Angel Heart.6739

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B) Changes to the server-system

There has been alot of talk about the fact that some of the servers are very low on population maybe there might be a more productive use for these servers.
There also have been alot of comments about the megaserver system not working as it is meant to and even tpo remove it.
- Do not change anything all is good as it is
- the megaserver system destroys the individuality of each WvW-server remove it pls
- increase the costs of moving from one server to another
- decrease the costs of moving from one server to another
- decrease the number of servers in total, increase the population on other servers
- remove obsolete servers
- leave the number of servers as it is
- make an international WvW-league
- add an Asian server to make 3-way fight possible (Europe-America-Asia)

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C) Changes specific individual servers

- do not alter the current server system
- do not alter the competition system for WvW
- alter the competition system for WvW
- we want to face the same opponents evry week
- we do not wish to fight the same opponents evry week
- we wish mmore regular competitons like the WvW league
- remove the league system
- do not alter the league system

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D) Borderland changes
The Borderlands should reflect your server, they are you mainstay your homeland as you wish,defending it and protecting it should be something you always take care of,
despite being on another borderland. Atm the biggest problem for some servers is that most of their players are just stuck on EBG.

- keep the borderlands as they are
- reduce the borderlands to an area around a castle
- remove the borderlands from WvW
- take away waypoints
- add waypoints
- remove the emergency waypoint system
- limit the emrgency waypoint sysem (3 per borderland)
- increase the rewards for the Borderlands
- increase the droprate on the Borderlands
- decrease the rewards for the Borderlands
- decrease the droprates on the borderlands
- Leave the rewards on the borderlands as they are
- Leave the droprate as it is
- add specific reward tracks for WvW (ascendet weapons and armor) gained by fighting on the borderlands not EBG
- Do not add specific reward tracks for WvW
- increase the number of points you get for defending objectives on your borderland (PPT)
- decrease the number of points you get for defending objectives on your borderland (PPT)
- add a WvW specific legendary armor on the borderlands that only can be gotten trough fighting on the borderlands not EBG
- do not add WvW specific armor
- add a WvW specific legendary weapons on the borderlands that only can be gotten trough fighting on the borderlands not EBG
- do not add WvW specific weapons
- add a salesperson for reward from reward tracks andto buy legendary weapons and armor in the rampart
- do not add a salesperson we don’t want legendary weapons or rewards from reward tacks at all
- do not add a salesperson we want the reward to be dropped by chest into your inventory
- less PVE stuff on the borderlands
- more PVE stuff on the borderlands
- let it remain as it is
- reduce the mapsize
- increase the mapsize
- add more maps on a weekly rotation
- revert to the alpine map in rotation with other maps
- revert to the alpine ma without rotation
- remove the desert borderlands map permanently
- adapt the desert borderlands map
- allow the borderlands map to rotate with the alpine map until other borderlands maps get available
- change the mechanics on the maps
- no rotation of maps at all
- remove the HOT mechanics
- Protect the borderlands at nightime prevent capping in the nightime of any server 1 in the morning to 7 in the morning)
- allow nightcpping keep the system as it is
- allow limited nightcapping (camps flags monuments)
- automatically redirect players in the EBG queue to the home-borderland when there is no queue or outmanned on homeborder
- don’t alter the queueing system
- remove GVG from the borderlands totally give GvG guilds seperate map intances (they are useless on the borderlands when they fight 24/7)
- do not seperate GVG from WvW
- seperate GVG from WvW but allow GVG guilds to participate on the borderlands
- allow more players to join the borderlands (increase the amount of players allowed on the borderlands)
- keep the maximum amount of players on the Borderlands as it is now
- decrease the number of players that can join

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E) Eternal Battlegrounds
Most ppl like EBG so not may changes a required, but still some things could be altered.
- Keep EBG as it is
- remove EBG
- reintroduce EBG as a map where the winning servers of the weeks matchup meet eachother after a weeks fight on the borderlands
- Limit the availability of EBG to the weekend after each matchup
- Reduce EBG to the area between the keeps and Stonemist castle
- Remove all PVE stuff from EBG
- add more PVE stuff to EBG
- increase the maximum amount of players allowed on EBG
- decrease the maximum number of players on EBG
- keep the maximum number of players as it is
- Turn EBG into PPK (point per kill) area which counts towards your home-server
- Remove Stonemist castle
- Turn EBG into one big open Killzone
- Turn EBG into a GVG zone
- decrease the droprate for only defending Stonemist castle on EBG introduce diminishing returns after 30 minites
- change the rewards on EBG into badges of honour instead of drops
- decrease the rewards on EBG
- Increase the rewards on EBG
- give stonemist a game-mechanic like the oasis event on the borderlands when is totally built up
- add a game mechanic top stonemist that alters all the borderlands
- add a gamemechanic that just alters EBG
- do not alter stonemist castle do not add gamemechanics
- remove EBG from the WvW PPT (point per tick) system
- apply maprotation to EBG
- do not apply maprotation to EBG
- adapt EBG to the HOT gamemechanics
- do not adapt EBG to the Hot mechanics
- do not alter the PPT system on EBG
- Increase the number of waypoints on EBG
- decrease the number of waypoints on EBG
- limit the number of emergency waypoints on EBG (3 per map)
- Allow emergency waypoints on EBG
- allow nighttime cap
- limit nighttime cap to camps, flags and towers during nighttime (1 in the morning till 8 in the morning)

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F) Edge of the Mists
Originally meant as a waiting area for players to rejoin the borderlands Edge has undergone significant changes, its purpose has shifted from being a waiting area to the main experience and rank gathering spot in World Versus World.

- Keep Edge of the Mists as it is
- Remove Edge, its not fair i worked for my rank these players just farm it
- Decrease the experience players can get from kills trough playing Edge of The Mist
- Increase the experience players can get from kills trough playing Edge of The Mist
- Increase the rewards on Edge of the Mists for defending objectives, reduce the rewards for capping objectives
- Change the rewards and drops in Edge of the Mists into Badges of Honor
- add a reward chest for winning a match on edge of the mist at the end of each contest
- do not add a reward chest
- leave the rewards on Edge of the Mists as they are
- add diminishing returns for playing an entire day on Edge of the Mists
- do not add diminishing returns for playing an entire day edge of the Mists
- increase the number of waypoints in edge of the Mists
- decrease the number of waypoints in Edge of the Mists
- add emergency waypoints to edge of the Mists
- limit the number of emergency waypoints on Edge of the Mists (3 wp per map)
- do not add emergency waypoints to Edge of the Mists
- add the HOT gamemechanics to Edge of the Mists
- do not add the HOT game-mechanics to Edge of the Mists
- increase the maximum number of players on an Edge of the Mists map
- decrease the maximum number of players able to join an Edge of the mists map

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G) Personnel comments (goodbye and ty for participating in short)

After an extensive survey its normal to ask the players that participated if the have any closing comments or things we might have forgotten.
Adding a space for a short reaction offers them a way of doing this moreover it is polite.

- Personal notes ( add some spaces for personnel comments)
- would you like to help out the Guild Wars 2 community more
- no
- yes – if so can you add us your e-mail address so we can keep you informed of any developments and important discussions or changes to World Versus World.

We would like to thank you for participating in our extensive poll / survey. we hope that with the changes we make for the game you will be able to enjoy World versus World for a long period, thank you for helping us to build towards the future of Guild Wars 2.

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Posted by: Angel Heart.6739

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@Norbe

This is what the poll would look like, but you should be able like to select all the individual options. like i said its not complete yet :-)

If you have any more ideas or suggestions feel free to add them :-)

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Posted by: Mighty Sorceress.2387

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I think a poll such as this would be a good idea as long as it’s convenient and quick. My only request would be for it to be offered only to accounts which have actually logged in a certain number of hours in wvw (not EOTM). That way, we can know the opinions/ requests of veteran wvw players. A different poll maybe for players interested in starting wvw may also be useful for developers to see what those players are looking for.

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Posted by: Angel Heart.6739

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I actually totally agree with you , we need not only to make WvW more interesting for the entire WvW-gaming community, but we need a break with EOTM, we need these players back on the borderlands, allies with guilds instead of a non-aligned majority of players rank-farmers on a the EOTM map its destroying WvW in its entirety because the servers and the individual guilds on them miss the players to keep the system running.

In the end if we do not get the new, the old, the returning and the EOTM playerrs back on WvW maps, this part of the game will have a grimm future.

I just wish more players like you would be able to understand that and look for opportunities that help all of us forward not just individual groups, maybe its already to late.

Just keep hoping for sense and logic to kick in.

Than you for you kind reaction very thankful some players still understand me, thank you :-)

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Posted by: Norbe.7630

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ok, for my suggestion
as a player, i hate to see long messages in game
dont get me wrong your idea is good but….
imagine you logged on then a message pops out about a survey that looks like a novel
then you see the players at pvp lobby or some map instance doing what they are doing or your guild chat tells you that they were raiding in eb at the same time, would you take part of the survey?
keep it short, keep it simple

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Posted by: lil devils x.6071

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@Norbe

This is what the poll would look like, but you should be able like to select all the individual options. like i said its not complete yet :-)

If you have any more ideas or suggestions feel free to add them :-)

If you remember how Anet did the surveys when they created GW2, they only had like 4- multiple choice answers and then allowed for write in as well. I Think that is a far better option than having a ridiculous amount of multiple choice answers. Just have a few of the most popular, then allow for write in is the easy way to do it.

I prefer them do it by email rather than when you Join though. Instead, they just send email survey to all wvw players past and present with a certain number of hours in WvW (like they do the other surveys Anet currently does already). They should not include EotM hours in the WvW surveys.

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Posted by: Angel Heart.6739

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@lil devils

Yes i agree that would be easier.

But it would not allow players just to select the things they really like or want, it might be ridiculous, but i wonder how many pages you would need to add for your personnel comments on the game by now to explain what you think is needed to change the game?

Rather have more options that can serve as indicators and a smaller personnel comment, where players only need to put the core of their thoughts not an novel filled with sentiment about WvW:-)

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