Guild Wars 2

The new gear that one can buy with laurels. great, another way to get that shiny fractal equivalent gear that w3 players can only dream of. but oh woe, it doesn’t come at the cost of badges. as a mather of fact you need a new currency. you need to do dailies for this currency.

today it says :

5 veterans
15 attacks dodged
10 items crafted
20 gatherings
5 events

what a joke. 4 pve tasks and … one crafting ? nothing w3 related ? this clearly is not the gear they promised we would be able to get via w3 and it certainly is not a w3 based character progression system but a completely unconnected set of gear.

now that that misunderstanding is gone, i can only say i am looking forward to the w3 gear and char progression in february.

Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….

Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.

While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.

Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.

Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.

I agree. It’s a shame to see people who play entirely for WvW are left out of the gear treadmill (unless you want to do fractals, not my thing).

I hope they introduce WvW ascended items soon enough.

You do know that this recent patch was a PvE Patch with minor updates to WvW. The MAJOR WvW patch is scheduled for Feb, which is next month so just hold on.

tkalamba.2541:

Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….

Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.

While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.

Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.

Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.

yes, my point exactly. there is nothing in it that requires me to even see an enemy player, let alone kill one. and there is … crafting. i can only conclude that i thought that the laurel gear was the w3 gear they talked about but i was wrong.

Aside from the crafting (which you can do with the mats from gathering if you get ore or wood) its all stuff you should normally get in wvw. I dont see anything on the list that you cant just get while doing your normal stuff. If you dont dodge when fighting others….then I dont know what to tell you…it should count. Killing NPC’s should count for the vet kills.

Next month will be more wvw stuff too, so wait on that for more gear.

muylaetrix.2096:

tkalamba.2541:

Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….

Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.

While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.

Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.

Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.

yes, my point exactly. there is nothing in it that requires me to even see an enemy player, let alone kill one. and there is … crafting. i can only conclude that i thought that the laurel gear was the w3 gear they talked about but i was wrong.

WvW is not pure PVP, and technically dodges will happen naturally when facing enemy players.

WvW was always a hybrid of PVE and PVP. Also the intention of this was solely for everyone who plays to get rewarded. This update isnt the WvW centric update coming in FEB.

Are you seriously not seeing how these are easily done in WvW?

If your normal playstyle doesn’t complete the majority of that, then you aren’t playing WvW like the majority of other players. It’s not about killing other players, it’s about holding territory.

tkalamba.2541:

Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….

Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.

While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.

Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.

Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.

O….hold on guys. I could rush to this tower to defend it but I need to stop to gather this mithril for my daily! Yeh….PvP at its finest…lol

Lordrosicky.5813:

tkalamba.2541:

Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….

Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.

While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.

Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.

Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.

O….hold on guys. I could rush to this tower to defend it but I need to stop to gather this mithril for my daily! Yeh….PvP at its finest…lol

This week’s forecast: Shady with an increased chance of resource node ganks.

Lordrosicky.5813:

tkalamba.2541:

Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….

Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.

While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.

Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.

Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.

O….hold on guys. I could rush to this tower to defend it but I need to stop to gather this mithril for my daily! Yeh….PvP at its finest…lol

4 precious seconds…

Lordrosicky.5813:

tkalamba.2541:

Every single one of those can easily be done in WvW….

Cap a tower? Bam, there’s one event done. How about taking a sentry? There’s another.

While moving between objectives, you can grab all your resources and take care of the gatherings, which on average give you 3 per node.

Dodge? I would assume you’re already doing this in WvW.

Veterans? Don’t camp guards, tower guards and whatnot all count as vets? Capturing a tower alone should probably fill that out pretty quickly.

O….hold on guys. I could rush to this tower to defend it but I need to stop to gather this mithril for my daily! Yeh….PvP at its finest…lol

The resources are still a vital part of WvW. Especially Mithril and Elderwood as they are required for superior siege. Something larger competitive guilds in T1 and T2 use plenty of, so its not a stretch to assume many players do infact mine these resources.

Gathering has been part of the daily since launch. Resource nodes also tend to stay in the same place for a while, should you have more pressing things to attend to.

muylaetrix.2096:

The new gear that one can buy with laurels. great, another way to get that shiny fractal equivalent gear that w3 players can only dream of. but oh woe, it doesn’t come at the cost of badges. as a mather of fact you need a new currency. you need to do dailies for this currency.

today it says :

5 veterans
15 attacks dodged
10 items crafted
20 gatherings
5 events

what a joke. 4 pve tasks and … one crafting ? nothing w3 related ? this clearly is not the gear they promised we would be able to get via w3 and it certainly is not a w3 based character progression system but a completely unconnected set of gear.

now that that misunderstanding is gone, i can only say i am looking forward to the w3 gear and char progression in february.

Less QQ man, those can all be done in wvw, and even an exclusive wvw player should have SOME mats to put together to craft 10 things.
The dailys have to cater for the whole spectrum of the playerbase – you make it sound like you want criteria like ‘’capture redvale’’ or ‘’spend 200 supply’’ which obviously pve players cant do

WvW is the easiest place to get credit for the dailies. Yaks and sentries are rofl easy way to get events done. Take 1 camp and you have your vets done. Dodge once in a zerg fight and you evade 20 attacks.

I can agree that the crafting one is stupid, but at least it is ultra easy to make 10 leather squares, planks, ingots etc.

Beyondthelol.9504:

muylaetrix.2096:

The new gear that one can buy with laurels. great, another way to get that shiny fractal equivalent gear that w3 players can only dream of. but oh woe, it doesn’t come at the cost of badges. as a mather of fact you need a new currency. you need to do dailies for this currency.

today it says :

5 veterans
15 attacks dodged
10 items crafted
20 gatherings
5 events

what a joke. 4 pve tasks and … one crafting ? nothing w3 related ? this clearly is not the gear they promised we would be able to get via w3 and it certainly is not a w3 based character progression system but a completely unconnected set of gear.

now that that misunderstanding is gone, i can only say i am looking forward to the w3 gear and char progression in february.

Less QQ man, those can all be done in wvw, and even an exclusive wvw player should have SOME mats to put together to craft 10 things.
The dailys have to cater for the whole spectrum of the playerbase – you make it sound like you want criteria like ‘’capture redvale’’ or ‘’spend 200 supply’’ which obviously pve players cant do

No, what he wants is a method that caters to WvW players and allows them to get Ascended gear at an equivalent rate/effort as PvE players. You know how Anet’s motto is you can be on the same level as everyone else, playing the game how YOU want.

I have to hope this is coming in Feb. I only WvW, still have never done a single Fractal and don’t want to. Would like to be able to be on par gear wise with other people.

Btw adding it to badge vendors would have made some sense.

Lol, all of the things on the list except maybe the gathering is done faster in WvW.

Go to a camp and tag everything there, you should be done with the veterans, 3/5 for events. Dodging should be done in like one fight and crafting takes like 10 seconds to craft ingots at your home borderlands(they have crafting stations)

I’m primarily a WvW player and I have no problem with this. All of this can be done in WvW zones.

If you want “pure” PvP that’s what structured PvP is for. WvW is a combination of PvE and PvP. Deal with it.

Well seeing as the wvw patch is still yet to come id say wait for that..

my point seems unclear. i don’t whine about it being to hard or anything, contrary. i find it too easy, too meaningless, having nothing to do with w3, and one thing, the crafting, i simply can’t be bothered with. doing pve is bad enough, but crafting is a no-no.

All of it can be done in WvW, except crafting which is quite easing considering you can mine first then craft with what you got
I just hate having to wait 30 days to get one piece. One amulet and 2 rings, each takes 30 days (1 laurel per day, and I think 10 per monthly) would amount to 70 days? Counting 60 days for 60 laurels plus 20 from the 2 monthlys is 80 plus 10 days is 70, correct me if im wrong, and this is not counting infusions.
And I also think there’s a back piece we cannot get yet, not too sure about this either.
I really hope they make a WvW alternative

The real issue here is being overlooked. The rate at which it is possible to earn laurels will tie you to doing these dailies for 6 months to get the gear currently available. If you have multiple characters, you’re looking at years to get what you could from fractals in a few days/weeks. It’s as much a slap in the face to open-world PvE players as it is to WvW players.

Grinding one particular dungeon is still, by far, the fastest way to gear up.

Please add ascended gear for badges and karma.

I did all of my daily in WvW yesterday. I fail to see the point of this thread. QQ for QQ sake?

WvW patch is in Feb. As always the patch will be at the end of the month.

<Gets refill from kitchen, logs in> … okay now… daily reset let’s see…

5 veterans
15 attacks dodged
10 items crafted
20 gatherings
5 events

okay… hmm… armor still damaged from last night, <goes to repair shop in LA> …. hmmm how’s my food & oil supply …. low, crap. <opens TP panel, buys food of choice, buys oil of choice, buy 30 wood or scraps or something trivial. Collects all goods from TP, hits craft station en way to bank, checks if there’s any last things I need …

Go WvW yay no queue~! (collect crap during downtimes, there is in fact some periods where you have down times)

Go WvW – crap a queue, hmmm where to queue from cursed shore and farm, or go hit southsun shores and grab some mithril, ori and wood … omg i got a flower, what the hell is this trash ~ whoa they really worth that much woot?

Really not hard at all.

Thrashbarg.9820:

The real issue here is being overlooked. The rate at which it is possible to earn laurels will tie you to doing these dailies for 6 months to get the gear currently available. If you have multiple characters, you’re looking at years to get what you could from fractals in a few days/weeks. It’s as much a slap in the face to open-world PvE players as it is to WvW players.

Grinding one particular dungeon is still, by far, the fastest way to gear up.

Please add ascended gear for badges and karma.

One amulet and two rings = 95 laurels
Three infusions = 15 laurels
Total expense = 110 laurels

At 30 laurels per month from dailys, plus 20 more for the monthly makes it just over 2 months. 2 months of playing the game for one hour each day, for three pieces of gear you don’t need, but want. How much more effort is it going to take you to get a legendary, that is only slightly better than ascended? Is that also then a slap in the face?

Oh, it’s a slap in the face because you can’t get a set of the best gear in the game within a week of minimal effort. Did I sum that up for you?

I don’t think anyone here knew about this so I am just going to inform you all about it. There are crafting stations for every crafting profession in World vs. World in your teams specific borderlands in the Citadel Waypoint. Everything required for the daily challenge can be accomplished within World vs. World grounds.

Of all the stuff you could legitimately complain about you chose this non-issue. Mine some mithril, make yourself some stat food, play WvW normally, get better gear.

Kuldred.2436:

Oh, it’s a slap in the face because you can’t get a set of the best gear in the game within a week of minimal effort. Did I sum that up for you?

Why it should take longer than couple minutes get best gear? They could just sell those items couple silver each.

Kuldred.2436:

At 30 laurels per month from dailys, plus 20 more for the monthly makes it just over 2 months.

You only get 10 from a monthly, and the whole PoV is from a WvW or PvE player that does not like grinding dungeons, therefore the monthly is out of the picture altogether as currently you must run dungeons for your monthly.

I don’t think players should be forced to run dungeons nor go into WvW for 50 kills if they do not want to (and why do we as WvW players, want people out there that don’t want to be, only there to collect their achievement and leave – with no care for a bigger team picture).

There should be alternative methods of both finishing dailies, monthlies, and acquiring all the top gear via entirely the game mode of your choice. That has been pretty much the dev team’s pitch line from the beginning philosophy of this game and still until now, but they are really rolling the ball slowly to get it all implemented to live up to that.

Scarn.6810:

Are you seriously not seeing how these are easily done in WvW?

If your normal playstyle doesn’t complete the majority of that, then you aren’t playing WvW like the majority of other players. It’s not about killing other players, it’s about holding territory.

No, it’s about listening on voice chat, being where you’re supposed to be, doing what you’ve been ordered to do, and moving quickly from target to target so that we can get something done. The territory that the ‘majority of other players’ is wandering around doing the daily on, is being held by us, your organized friends

I don’t have time to pick flowers and other such BS.

So anet… make some REAL WvW dailies. PvP has a daily. Make a WvW centric daily next, and make it right.

Ultravalefor.5038:

Scarn.6810:

Are you seriously not seeing how these are easily done in WvW?

If your normal playstyle doesn’t complete the majority of that, then you aren’t playing WvW like the majority of other players. It’s not about killing other players, it’s about holding territory.

No, it’s about listening on voice chat, being where you’re supposed to be, doing what you’ve been ordered to do, and moving quickly from target to target so that we can get something done. The territory that the ‘majority of other players’ is wandering around doing the daily on, is being held by us, your organized friends

I don’t have time to pick flowers and other such BS.

So anet… make some REAL WvW dailies. PvP has a daily. Make a WvW centric daily next, and make it right.

While a WvW would be nice for people that only do WvW, but think of this if your on a server that has ques do you really want to make it more of an incentive for more people to play WvW just to get the daily done?

Mira.4906:

While a WvW would be nice for people that only do WvW, but think of this if your on a server that has ques do you really want to make it more of an incentive for more people to play WvW just to get the daily done?

I get where you’re coming from, but we already have people coming into WvW to do nonsense like jumping puzzles. I’d rather deal with people coming to WvW to waste space (temporarily) than continually be left out of the loop when it comes to the newest stuff anet decides to implement. Still no ascended gear available with badges, just mentioning that…

They will leave after the daily is done, anyway. Those dust bunnies know nothing about mind blowing, gut wrenching, war.

The daily really isn’t the problem, easily doable in WvW. The monthly on the other hand… – well I just refuse to do fractals. :/

It is annoying. I don’t care if it takes 3x as long as in PvE, we should be able to get all the gear just battling in WvW. The reason is simple, if not, players eventually quit. I know I will if a gear gap starts to get large. GW2 is fun but it isn’t worth PvEing for.

muylaetrix.2096:

this clearly is not the gear they promised we would be able to get via w3 and it certainly is not a w3 based character progression system but a completely unconnected set of gear.

now that that misunderstanding is gone, i can only say i am looking forward to the w3 gear and char progression in february.

Yes, its fairly obvious this is a case of false expectations. While most of us are already planning on what to do with laurels, here is some poor fellow who is frustrated because maybe someone told him the latest patch would do something that it was never intended to do (kittenhe rumor-mongers).

muylaetrix.2096:

The new gear that one can buy with laurels. great, another way to get that shiny fractal equivalent gear that w3 players can only dream of. but oh woe, it doesn’t come at the cost of badges. as a mather of fact you need a new currency. you need to do dailies for this currency.

today it says :

5 veterans
15 attacks dodged
10 items crafted
20 gatherings
5 events

what a joke. 4 pve tasks and … one crafting ? nothing w3 related ? this clearly is not the gear they promised we would be able to get via w3 and it certainly is not a w3 based character progression system but a completely unconnected set of gear.

now that that misunderstanding is gone, i can only say i am looking forward to the w3 gear and char progression in february.

…We were told WvW gear was coming in Feb. So yes, clearly this isnt it. Why are you here stating as much?

PvE happens in due course of WvW, what are you on about. They’re all over the place. Not to mention in sieges. As for crafting: Each borderland has crafting stations. My gear I crafted for my WvW character was crafted. In fact “crafting” includes refining 15 pieces of material also. So you can turn 15 jute scraps into jute squares (or whatever) and you’re done. Holy hell man, I did this after selling and before banking my loot. It took all of 10 seconds.

Can we possibly cry about anything worse than this? You set the bar high, but I wont be surprised to see it surpassed.

technically they did add gear WvW players can use you just have to drag yourself to one of the temples in Orr. 42k karma for Exotic rings backs trinkets etc.

As for dailys they are easily completed in WvW.

I must say, Anet hate us wvw players :S

I get OP point. It’s not a matter of easily doable in WvW. It’s a matter that all are pve related. For example 1 out of 5 should be WvW related like used xx supplies or kill xx invader etc. Well there’s pve daily and pvp daily and monthly as well. I just hope Feb patch will have WvW daily and monthly. I wasn’t able to complete monthly since fractals thing come in.

sazaw.1347:

I get OP point. It’s not a matter of easily doable in WvW. It’s a matter that all are pve related. For example 1 out of 5 should be WvW related like used xx supplies or kill xx invader etc. Well there’s pve daily and pvp daily and monthly as well. I just hope Feb patch will have WvW daily and monthly. I wasn’t able to complete monthly since fractals thing come in.

Disagree strongly I do not want hundreds of Pve players coming in and using supplies for example, so long as dailys are achievable in WvW everything is fine.

Yeah, I would not want PvE-only people to come into WvW unless they actually want to start doing WvW.

The daily are too simple and can be completed within 30min. If the conditions are right, daily can be finish within 15min.

This daily reward does not benefit those hardware wvw players who spent many hours everyday in wvw. Shouldn’t anet make multi-tier for the daily? So that the more time you spend in wvw, the more laurels you can earn. This will increase the participation of players in wvw. Of course the daily must make sense in wvw context, like capture a camp, or escort yak, things like this.

From what i am seeing… 1 laurel a day. 30 laurels a month. ya, and i dun do fractal. Pure wvw only. Will take me months to get ascended items. Sigh… now i feel like logoff from wvw after i completed my daily. Well done anet.

IMO, they should have a 3rd daily/monthly catered to WvW and every single version of daily/monthly should award laurels. This way, you could play the way you want. I’m hoping they do this for the big WvW update.

i kinda like the new dailies. they’re different each day, so that’s kind of nice. and i don’t mind it at all. WvW has always been the best place for dailies anyways – old and new. lik emany have mentioned. yesterday was the first time i jumped in game since the new patch and went straight into WvW. took two camps + one sentry – 5 vets done, 5 events done, i dodged a bit more than usual to rack up the evades… eventually got all my dodges. then for collecting? it’s always been there. 20 is not hard to find. after your normal WvW sesh. take 5 minutes, and you can get that done. then crafting? they even have crafting stations in WvW. don’t wanna take up a precious spot? again, go back to pve, dont in 5 seconds. sure the coming days may prove more PvE-focused stuff.. but they WILL make certain tasks optional when they introduce the whole you only need 4 out of 6 thing for dailies.

and again, this was more of a PvE update. big WvW coming so who’s to say they won’t throw in more WvW related daily tasks of which players can choose from? ; )) and thus allowing more PvE-centric players to focus on kill varierty or what not.. and WvW can focused more on capping stuff or what have you for the dailies.

@Pigtaro – i like the idea of tiered dailies so the more you invest, the more you get. though you then may see people not focusing on the big picture or main tasks and simply try to non stop flip camps (i.e. giving up camps on purpose may be involved) just to get more laurels.

ANet did mention they would add various ways to achieve laurels (not only through achieving a daily or monthly) through achievement points i think? and you definitely get achievement points for WvW, right? i’m not 100% sure but it seems like it. maybe they can tweak that system to better cater to strictly WvW players.