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Posted by: Nick.6972

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Who’d win, which would be the “strongest” over-stacked server?
I’ve heard meta is much different in EU servers – less zerging and more strategic.
BG vs VS?
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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

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If all else equal, and EU top server is more strategic, they’ll outplay BG. BG still relies on the massive zerging.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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Via has national unity and gains momentum from that, plus a singular voice towards an overall cohesive plan. Think playing with family members vs playing with coworkers. They have nowhere near the 24/7 coverage that Blackgate does, even if they are the most 24/7 server in EU, but Blackgate (at least the one I remember fighting) was a bunch of voices in a whole. Strategy/tactics wise that gives Viz an advantage, but BGs off-hour numbers would prevail.

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

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Viz would win because of their 24/7 zone blobbing, but other eu servers would lose 100k point at least.

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Posted by: Deli.1302

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Well, if Troma decides on an all call for that matchup then BG will be facing a Waha-like zerg on all 4 maps 24/7.

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Posted by: Mirsa.1628

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EU would win in open field fights, guaranteed.

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Posted by: Nick.6972

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Too bad Arena Net said EU vs NA can never happen due to limitations of some sort, this would be more interesting than their E-Sport.

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Posted by: Omnitek.3876

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NA t1 servers have 2 times the coverage as EU. WvW is about coverage, not skill.

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Posted by: Xsorus.2507

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NA t1 servers have 2 times the coverage as EU. WvW is about coverage, not skill.

This, BG would crap on every single Euro Server..

Why EU can’t understand that they’re not more skillful then NA servers (having played on EU servers there is no skill difference between the two leagues) and that Coverage decides pretty much everything in terms of WvW.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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Well, if Troma decides on an all call for that matchup then BG will be facing a Waha-like zerg on all 4 maps 24/7.

Lol that’s true

NA t1 servers have 2 times the coverage as EU. WvW is about coverage, not skill.

This, BG would crap on every single Euro Server..

Why EU can’t understand that they’re not more skillful then NA servers (having played on EU servers there is no skill difference between the two leagues) and that Coverage decides pretty much everything in terms of WvW.

I’ve played both too, extensively. And there most certainly is a difference. Open field, EU would win. Hands down. This is mostly due to the fact that NA considers ppt, whereas EU doesn’t really focus on that. It translates in game play (not saying one is better than the other, just different priorities).

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Posted by: DeadlySynz.3471

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As someone earlier said, WvW is about coverage, not skill.

A server can win open field fights till the cows come home with similar numbers, but it won’t matter in the end if there is a 6-8 hour gap where their numbers are inferior.

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Posted by: Krakah.3582

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Via has national unity and gains momentum from that, plus a singular voice towards an overall cohesive plan. Think playing with family members vs playing with coworkers. They have nowhere near the 24/7 coverage that Blackgate does, even if they are the most 24/7 server in EU, but Blackgate (at least the one I remember fighting) was a bunch of voices in a whole. Strategy/tactics wise that gives Viz an advantage, but BGs off-hour numbers would prevail.

It’ll go down something like this.

Viz: Oi! these yanks are terrible at open field…thanks for the bags BG.
BG: Great open field distraction guys, and cross map pressure. We got multiple objectives, thanks for the towers/keeps Viz.

Everyone will pat themselves on the back for something. NA plays for PPT meta priority, EU has been open field meta priority.

Since the question is about who would win the match, NA is the clear winner for better PPT meta and coverage.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

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Oh but Viz is an anomaly in EU. If they want to put a WP in your keep, they will (no word of a lie) have 20 players escorting that dolyak, and another 20 in each of the nearest camps, until the WP is done. And these guys won’t wander off and do something else. Incredibly disciplined. And if you try to stop the dolly or retake the camp, that’s when the open-field stuff comes into play. Viz does play the ppt meta.

And it would be more “zut alors!” instead of “Oi!”

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Posted by: Valik Shin.9027

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Only thing holding back BG is q time. They can’t get all thier best players in together which is kinda scary based on how well they still do

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Posted by: Dee Jay.2460

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Coverage decides everything in WvW.

So whatever server has the most coverage, wins.

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Posted by: Andrew Clear.1750

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Sounds like a lot of PvD during peak times.

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Posted by: Morphman.6312

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Having played in both NA tier 1 and EU tier 1, I would say that BG/JQ/SOR would win against any tier 1 EU server in coverage wars. There’s too many guild groups spread across all hours of the day.
While NA tier 1 may not have been up to scratch in terms of open field fights 4 months ago, they have definitely improved now. Even pug groups or ‘militia’ know what they are doing, run ok builds and have good movement if they have a commander who is on TS.

But yeah, a tier 1 NA would just dominate because of the almost constant guild presence in almost every border.

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Posted by: Bloodwort MacFangho.4638

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I (sadly) have to agree that NA coverage would win it in a server vs server based matchup. Viz would valiantly do their best but I don’t think they’d be able to cut the mustard (as our cross-atlantic cousins would say .. and Oi! Back taxes please .. anytime soon?).

Now .. Tier1 NA vs Tier 1 EU (tier 1 servers for a continent would be allies, so SOR, BG etc .. would be one side and Viz, PS etc be the opposing side), on the other hand .. EU would smear the NA servers across the maps .. :-)

Just saying .. for all the reasons mentioned in this thread.

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Posted by: Saint Scarlet.2906

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Coverage isn’t everything, yeah sure it helps a lot but when those people playing aren’t very good then it doesn’t matter if you’re outnumbered. Any of the top 5 EU servers could beat the top NA server. The reason for this is down to the way EU servers operate, we have 3 top national servers and 2 international servers. This means each server generally has the best groups of people playing on it.
Now people say its coverage that wins and while to an extent that is true you are forgetting it’s the quality of the coverage that matters not the numbers. My server has often been outmanned 3/4 – 1 for 8-12 hours a day yet can still maintain a ppt higher than the other 2 servers. This is because it’s something we’re used to so have become very good at overcoming the odds and using our full potential, whereas most of the “top” servers around have remained at the top so never had a need to develop their skills beyond a certain point.
While i have personally not played on NA servers i am friends with quite a few people who are or have been and the majority of them agree the quality of play on EU compared to NA is far better. This is not to diminish NA players in any way but how can they expect to get any better when they don’t play against the best against the odds. The only way to get better is to play someone who is better than you.

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