Guild Wars 2

All these scoring posts I swear… Why are you guys making so many scoring posts? Scoring shouldnt even matter at this point… If y’all made same amount of posts on WvW specific class balance I think Anet would have done a lot more class balance rather than scoring bs yall are crying about. Scoring can never be fixed if it plays around all around coverage.. So more WvW specific class balance posts please. Thank you.

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Anet still might not listen because they really dont care for WvW… Ecks dee..

excitingly waiting for Gaile Greys damage control post inc

While it would be nice to see some actual class balancing done with WvW in mind, balancing is done by a separate department, and quite frankly they are terrible and clueless in regards to wvw and pvp. Without properly splitting skill balance between game modes, wvw will always get screwed over. Conditions, CC’s, and power creep have ruined a lot of the fun in wvw, especially the condi garbage.

Scoring changes drive player activity, especially when there are other factors tied to it, such as rewards, tier placement, rankings, matchups, etc. There are many posts on this forum section about class balancing, mostly about conditions. You can also always start your own thread for discussion.

WvW is a 24/7 game mode, you always have to account for that.

Personally I would like to see them take a hard look at conditions, this simply cannot continue in its current form. Damage and application needs to be toned down in WvW. Epidemic needs a good nerf, because it is a little too overpowered, being able to load up 5 targets with conditions because of this 1200 range unblockable skill on one target is absolutely ridiculous. Guardians need to be toned down, way too much damage, healing, blocking, and tankiness at the same time. Resurrection needs to be toned down, way too much rezzing, too fast going on, there needs to be more penalties. Mercy runes, rez traits, etc all need to be toned down. Certain power based skills like CoR, Vault, etc do way too much damage and have short cooldowns, those need to be toned down as well.

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While it would be nice to see some actual class balancing done with WvW in mind, balancing is done by a separate department, and quite frankly they are terrible and clueless in regards to wvw and pvp. Without properly splitting skill balance between game modes, wvw will always get screwed over. Conditions, CC’s, and power creep have ruined a lot of the fun in wvw, especially the condi garbage.

Scoring changes drive player activity, especially when there are other factors tied to it, such as rewards, tier placement, rankings, matchups, etc. There are many posts on this forum section about class balancing, mostly about conditions. You can also always start your own thread for discussion.

WvW is a 24/7 game mode, you always have to account for that.

Personally I would like to see them take a hard look at conditions, this simply cannot continue in its current form. Damage and application needs to be toned down in WvW. Epidemic needs a good nerf, because it is a little too overpowered, being able to load up 5 targets with conditions because of this 1200 range unblockable skill on one target is absolutely ridiculous. Guardians need to be toned down, way too much damage, healing, blocking, and tankiness at the same time. Resurrection needs to be toned down, way too much rezzing, too fast going on, there needs to be more penalties. Mercy runes, rez traits, etc all need to be toned down. Certain power based skills like CoR, Vault, etc do way too much damage and have short cooldowns, those need to be toned down as well.

This is spot on. I want them to do class balance in such a way which allows smaller groups 15-20 to take on 40-50 like pre-hot

Yeah as if scoring even matters when there are so many other issues plaguing wvw.

Because much of the forum population STILL hasn’t figured out scoring is a symptom of a problem not the actual problem. ANet can change the scoring to the greatest MMO scoring system of all time and it still wouldn’t matter since at 8AM EST a handful of NA servers are going to be running 50+ players over 10 defenders. Those same servers are going to leave their NA prime players in the opposite position. Neither side of which is very fun… basically WvW is win by numbers 99% of the time.

Several of us long ago realized as long as the “server” system remains in effect, there is no chance ANet will ever be able to fix coverage and ultimately never truly fix scoring.