I know it has been brought up before but players purposefully burning massive amounts of keep supply on useless siege creates a lot of animosity. It stings quite a bit since there is nothing current players can do about it. We just had a guy drain over 2k supply building rams and trebs in SM for the express purpose of killing all the supply in the keep. The placement made them completely useless.
Any thoughts on how to handle this? Do you fellows consider this to be a problem?
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Siege mechanics is the problem. If Anet made sieges more useful in many different roles. we wouldnt have to much of an issue here. Sieges would be both useful for Offense and defense.
maybe allow them to move or something. to move them where needed.
I know it has been brought up before but players purposefully burning massive amounts of keep supply on useless siege creates a lot of animosity. It stings quite a bit since there is nothing current players can do about it. We just had a guy drain over 2k supply building rams and trebs in SM for the express purpose of killing all the supply in the keep. The placement made them completely useless.
Any thoughts on how to handle this? Do you fellows consider this to be a problem?
Send in reports to A-net, my server has had issues with siege trollers and they have vanished after we reported them many times.
Putting Rams on top of walls is useful for Fearing people off.
Building 10 trebs and 15 rams in front of a supply depot in SM isn’t. This isn’t about a single rogue siege. This about certain players burning massive amounts of supply on mostly useless siege often just before attacks on T3 keeps.
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Let the players on the map vote a single person temporary “siegemaster” status, at which time they can either destroy, move or recycle up to say 10 pieces of siege over the next 20 minutes.
I feel your pain. I actually just logged onto the forums to complain about a player who was building flame rams on our tower wall while we were trying to defend it, leaving no supply for proper siege machines. This same player has been behaving similarly all week, and has been called out multiple times on map chat to be reported. It’s very discouraging to see this abusive troll still with an account.
I hope arenanet can remedy this problem soon. Having a specific report feature for it would probably be a good start.
I feel your pain. I actually just logged onto the forums to complain about a player who was building flame rams on our tower wall while we were trying to defend it, leaving no supply for proper siege machines. This same player has been behaving similarly all week, and has been called out multiple times on map chat to be reported. It’s very discouraging to see this abusive troll still with an account.
I hope arenanet can remedy this problem soon. Having a specific report feature for it would probably be a good start.
Complaining about it on the forums will do zero to fix it. You must contact Anet via their support mechanism. They simply will not act on mentions of issues in the forums.
Let the players on the map vote a single person temporary “siegemaster” status, at which time they can either destroy, move or recycle up to say 10 pieces of siege over the next 20 minutes.
That just lets the offender burn more supply once the siege master has removed some of it. Plus, the mechanics of the vote are unworkable. How many people need to participate in a vote and how often can one be called? Could the troll simply keep calling for votes over and over again?
Honestly, if they invested a little in some big data gathering and analysis they could detect a lot of trolling behavior real time and set off alarms. It shouldn’t be too hard to determine if it is an actual troll by logging into a server where an alarm occurred and watching the person doing it.
What kind of report do you guys sent in to Anet then? There is no griefing or trolling option in the report function
We have 2 very annoying pve trolls who like nothing more to put up their commander tag and confuse people and call out wrong fights when they tag up.
Let the players on the map vote a single person temporary “siegemaster” status, at which time they can either destroy, move or recycle up to say 10 pieces of siege over the next 20 minutes.
That just lets the offender burn more supply once the siege master has removed some of it. Plus, the mechanics of the vote are unworkable. How many people need to participate in a vote and how often can one be called? Could the troll simply keep calling for votes over and over again?
Honestly, if they invested a little in some big data gathering and analysis they could detect a lot of trolling behavior real time and set off alarms. It shouldn’t be too hard to determine if it is an actual troll by logging into a server where an alarm occurred and watching the person doing it.
The vote would have to be based on getting a certain percentage of the people on the map to participate in the vote, and then a certain percentage of them agreeing to designate the siegemaster. Votes could be limited to one or two per hour.
As far as gathering data to determine trollish behavior and having it set off an alarm, it wouldn’t hard at all to evade triggering those alarms by building siege in nearly useful but actually totally useless locations.
There’s not going to be one clean, easy fix for this. I certainly wish they would just delete the accounts of people who participate in such behavior, but if they are in fact doing that, they’re not doing it often enough nor fast enough.
What kind of report do you guys sent in to Anet then? There is no griefing or trolling option in the report function
We have 2 very annoying pve trolls who like nothing more to put up their commander tag and confuse people and call out wrong fights when they tag up.
Hit the “support” link at the upper left of this page.
On the new page that opens, hit the “Submit a request” link at the upper right corner.
Choose “In-game issue” from the menu and you should be all set.
I did this just 3 days ago. Got a reply really fast (the next day). No action yet. The guy is still killing golems, wasting supply, and dropping tons of siege during defenses to disrupt building of useful siege.
Banning accounts over this is not going to happen but they might put a debuff (like the one near the spawn point) on players behaving like this, or maybe a general debuff that prevents players from deploying more then x siege equipment per hour/day.
A lighter ‘penalty’ is lighter to apply and carries less risk of undesirable consequences for Anet
There are a couple solutions that could work – capping the amount of supply that one player can draw from a single fortification each hour, or allowing the claiming guild to prevent supply from being drawn beyond a certain threshold by non-guild members.
The second solution would require a timer on either the supply restriction or guild claiming duration though, since that could allow even worse griefing otherwise.
What would be great is if ANet had in game game-masters that would respond in person and in an expedient manner when something is reported. Their ability to witness what is happening, reverse it, and take immediate action against the offender would solve all kinds of cheating… One GM policing 3 or 4 matchups would probably be sufficient to respond to all kinds of hacking, cheating, exploiting and trolling complaints. The tools they would need to respond and un-do what is done though would probably be quite a bit of work on the development side…
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Something has to be done. It would be helpful if commanders could pick up ready to build siege blueprints as well, to mitigate the dumb troll who throws siege on top of siege.
On a separate note I need to stop foruming so hard…
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Something has to be done. It would be helpful if commanders could pick up ready to build siege blueprints as well, to mitigate the dumb troll who throws siege on top of siege.
On a separate note I need to stop foruming so hard…
You’d just get trolls with tags who pick up siege that other people drop. That’s possibly even worse.
In any case, the troll in our matchup this week is still around after being reported Friday. Anet just doesn’t care. Maybe if they realize after they ban them, they’ll likely buy the game again to troll again — that’ll cause them to act.
Most servers already know their troll. Making trolling easier with a tag won’t help.
Nor will giving players the decision to chose a siege master…
Trolling sieges isn’t something that happens every day, every week by the same person. It takes money/badges and a lot of time to do so.
Yes it’s a rare nuisance, and an annoying nuisance when it happens, but it’s certainly better than a popularity contest or trolling commanders (we already have enough of that, don’t need them to get in-game benefits on top).
Maybe when X amount players report someone for griefing, they get siege capped for a certain amount of time (maybe an hour). If it happens repeatedly on an account, a GM could look into it and put something more permanent in place. If they find that false reports are being filed, they could take action against the reporters.
