Turn DBL into an EBG map!

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Posted by: CrimeMaker.8612

CrimeMaker.8612

So I presented this idea on this forum post https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/t2-desert-camps/page/2#post6093611 I know i am not the first one to say this but DBL should really be turned into an EBG because of all that open space in the middle of the map. Since the devs disabled oasis I think they should just put a big castle like smh there and just change the lay out of the map a bit like earth on the top of the map, fire keep bottom left and air on bottom right. Also beside having shrines give buffs I think the tower itself should give buffs that might make combat more interesting. The current place where fire keep and air keep are should ne just open space for groups to have an open field fights without getting siege humped from towers or keep. More suggestions are welcome!!!

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Posted by: X T D.6458

X T D.6458

I like the idea in theory. However I also believe that borderlands need to be treated differently then EB. First there is the issue of lag and instability that resulted when we had the Oasis Event. Those technical problems need to be resolved first before anything is added, because otherwise it will just create more problems. Also I think making this a periodic event, that maybe for example awards extra points like x5 PPK while holding this structure, and extra PPT only for this structure. I dont think that borderlands like EB should have this as the focal point of the map, but rather add some flavor to the borderland that can spice things up when it gets a little to quiet.

So for example-

-Event to fight over the Castle starts every 2 or 3 hours. The Castle can only be held for an hour.
-There are no gates/walls to break down, its a simple cap-hold-defend, and all siege use inside is disabled.
-Holding the castle awards your server extra PPK
-The castle gives extra points towards PPT for your server, for example 50 points.

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Posted by: CrimeMaker.8612

CrimeMaker.8612

I like the idea in theory. However I also believe that borderlands need to be treated differently then EB. First there is the issue of lag and instability that resulted when we had the Oasis Event. Those technical problems need to be resolved first before anything is added, because otherwise it will just create more problems. Also I think making this a periodic event, that maybe for example awards extra points like x5 PPK while holding this structure, and extra PPT only for this structure. I dont think that borderlands like EB should have this as the focal point of the map, but rather add some flavor to the borderland that can spice things up when it gets a little to quiet.

So for example-

-Event to fight over the Castle starts every 2 or 3 hours. The Castle can only be held for an hour.
-There are no gates/walls to break down, its a simple cap-hold-defend, and all siege use inside is disabled.
-Holding the castle awards your server extra PPK
-The castle gives extra points towards PPT for your server, for example 50 points.

You mean like king of the hill type stuff? Like every 3 hours the big castle in the middle of the map will go neutral and during that period every server gets like 3x ppk and whoever captures and holds the keep for the longest time gets bonus rewards and bonus ppt or something. What I am trying to say is that every 3 hours the big castle will go complete neutral for one hour and it’s a king of the hill round

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Posted by: X T D.6458

X T D.6458

I like the idea in theory. However I also believe that borderlands need to be treated differently then EB. First there is the issue of lag and instability that resulted when we had the Oasis Event. Those technical problems need to be resolved first before anything is added, because otherwise it will just create more problems. Also I think making this a periodic event, that maybe for example awards extra points like x5 PPK while holding this structure, and extra PPT only for this structure. I dont think that borderlands like EB should have this as the focal point of the map, but rather add some flavor to the borderland that can spice things up when it gets a little to quiet.

So for example-

-Event to fight over the Castle starts every 2 or 3 hours. The Castle can only be held for an hour.
-There are no gates/walls to break down, its a simple cap-hold-defend, and all siege use inside is disabled.
-Holding the castle awards your server extra PPK
-The castle gives extra points towards PPT for your server, for example 50 points.

You mean like king of the hill type stuff? Like every 3 hours the big castle in the middle of the map will go neutral and during that period every server gets like 3x ppk and whoever captures and holds the keep for the longest time gets bonus rewards and bonus ppt or something. What I am trying to say is that every 3 hours the big castle will go complete neutral for one hour and it’s a king of the hill round

Pretty much, the point of having it neutral for a time, is to keep borderlands seperate from EB in some aspects, but incorporate a popular design. I believe the borderlands are more important for servers because they are your home maps. Also having all 4 maps with the same functional design would not be beneficial in my opinion, although I can see why people would think it might because EB seems to be more popular then bl’s.

Also I think this idea, would promote more fights, less gimmicks and reliance on siege, keep borderlands different from EB while still having a popular aspect of it, and even give rewards to the server that puts in the most effort. This would also give a nice break for groups/players who like to fight.

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Posted by: Sviel.7493

Sviel.7493

There are so many things wrong with this, though. For starters, EBG is a more skirmish-oriented map that, of course, devolves into zergVzerg. The borderlands, both of them, place far more emphasis on tracking enemy locations and dealing with them (or their supply) before they reach an objective. While there is some overlap, the two maps support different styles of play.

To make a borderland into an EBG map would require a huge redesign, no matter the starting point. Even then, it wouldn’t be as good as something that was meant for the job from the start.

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Posted by: Cerby.1069

Cerby.1069

So I presented this idea on this forum post https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/t2-desert-camps/page/2#post6093611 I know i am not the first one to say this but DBL should really be turned into an EBG because of all that open space in the middle of the map. Since the devs disabled oasis I think they should just put a big castle like smh there and just change the lay out of the map a bit like earth on the top of the map, fire keep bottom left and air on bottom right. Also beside having shrines give buffs I think the tower itself should give buffs that might make combat more interesting. The current place where fire keep and air keep are should ne just open space for groups to have an open field fights without getting siege humped from towers or keep. More suggestions are welcome!!!

Somethin like that or maybe they just keep the map as is but just have 1 of them. And also change the waypoints so anyone can have a waypoint in a keep if its upgraded enough (fortified). Basically make it a true musical chairs map…where any team can truly own any keep. How the starting positions are determined is a point of debate. you can either have the map reset every 24-48 hours and each team move to a different wp each time so they each experience one of the 3 base spawns. Another option is making the middle of the map a spawn point. Another option is making it a warzone type mode where respawns are changed so people have to wait…..then every couple minutes you get an ‘airdrop’ of soldiers to somewhere on the map. Hey thats a great idea to include gliders into wvsw lol. To enter the map you wait in an airship and every few minutes you get a ‘drop’…and everyone spawns in the air and glides down to the ground.

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Posted by: TheGrimm.5624

TheGrimm.5624

I think DBL would make a good three sided EB style map. A structure in the middle to fight over would be a good touch. Top server gets Earth, second ranked server gets Fire and third gets Air. But I am biased since I would still like to see 4 distinct maps to fight over that are all three sided maps versus the borderland concept. More variety the better.

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Posted by: RodOfDeath.5247

RodOfDeath.5247

Fix the lag sure, but for now no thanks. It will not be a pleasant gaming experience.