Guild Wars 2

Well from what I understand about the grand announcement of population changes is this….

Its going to get REALLY expensive for those unfortunate few that started on a server that was low pop. Nobody will transfer to a lower server. Those on a low server will be trapped there. The only alternative for those on a low population server is to move onto a different game.

I think this is what the plan is correct?

I must say that I really want to rip ANET a new one…but lets just sum it up as disappointing. Unbelievable.

But but … You have The Edge?

anet is going to have a hard time dismantling this atomic bomb

They should add a monthly fee to people using WvW on high population servers since they have a third viable game mode that low tier servers dont have. Problem solved.

The real solution is to balance the WvW servers so that each side has roughly the same number of players. They make you sit in queue for PvP…Why? Why not just pop 2 in vs 5? Its OK for WvW so why not pvp? Just yesterday I waited 15 minutes to play 15 minutes in pvp. If there was a queue system for WvW that would have probably been 7 minutes for the entire night.

Why are they so scared of a queue? You want a system that encourages balance? Make people on overpopulated servers wait in the queue…they will quickly transfer to a lower population server. I GUARANTEE it!

Skeletor.9360:

TIf there was a queue system for WvW that would have probably been 7 minutes for the entire night

Queues are up to 2 hours on reset night with queues reaching 100 people or more, other border can be 20+ with a 30 minute queue so yeah we queue long enough already.

This new system will atleast go a long way to help the population disparity, the owrst example being SFR, they can blob on most border for 16 hours a day and you have zero chance of beating them, not because htey are good becuase they are terrible and thier blobs are easily killed by smaller numbers.

As a WvW’r (Not a PvE Mike O’Brien) this amazing and the lower tiers should get more people come to them as the transfer fee will discourage people from moving/bandwagoning up to SFR/Deso/Piken, You’ll see people transfer with thier heads and not thier kitten s.

Or just go ahead and move on up at the price many people have already paid to get there. No one made low tier players stay in low tiers. The cost won’t be any higher than it is now to move up. Just a whole lot lower to move down.

MaximillianVonSchatten.6278:

They should add a monthly fee to people using WvW on high population servers since they have a third viable game mode that low tier servers dont have. Problem solved.

“U2 can be trapped on a low pop server.”

Yeah but Bono can afford any transfer fees.

Ashen.2907:

“U2 can be trapped on a low pop server.”

Yeah but Bono can afford any transfer fees.

+1

Skeletor.9360:

The real solution is to balance the WvW servers so that each side has roughly the same number of players. They make you sit in queue for PvP…Why? Why not just pop 2 in vs 5? Its OK for WvW so why not pvp? Just yesterday I waited 15 minutes to play 15 minutes in pvp. If there was a queue system for WvW that would have probably been 7 minutes for the entire night.

Why are they so scared of a queue? You want a system that encourages balance? Make people on overpopulated servers wait in the queue…they will quickly transfer to a lower population server. I GUARANTEE it!

That happened not so long ago when they reduced the WvW pop cap to reduce lag. Many guilds moved to other servers and I do think that helped the balance. Check the T3/T4 match up form end 2014 begining 2015 and stuff started to balance out after march(I think the wvw cap was added in march)

Check my server History NSP. It a good gauge since we always were a mid tier server and our pop never really fluctuated much.

We get 3-8 mans queue on either Home server or EB on NA primetime. I’m not used to queu and would be frustrated If I had to wait more than 2 minutes.

GROMIT.7829:

Skeletor.9360:

TIf there was a queue system for WvW that would have probably been 7 minutes for the entire night

Queues are up to 2 hours on reset night with queues reaching 100 people or more, other border can be 20+ with a 30 minute queue so yeah we queue long enough already.

This new system will atleast go a long way to help the population disparity, the owrst example being SFR, they can blob on most border for 16 hours a day and you have zero chance of beating them, not because htey are good becuase they are terrible and thier blobs are easily killed by smaller numbers.

As a WvW’r (Not a PvE Mike O’Brien) this amazing and the lower tiers should get more people come to them as the transfer fee will discourage people from moving/bandwagoning up to SFR/Deso/Piken, You’ll see people transfer with thier heads and not thier kitten s.

This isn’t going to get more people to play lower tiers. Those that want competitive game play will come into a lower tier ghost town, think the game died already and go play a game that has people to play with. If I was forced to play on a lower tier I would have quit the game after a week. I have been on servers where I was the only person on the map. Why would I want to play like that? Not everyone plays NA prime.

ALSO: Getting people to a low tier server isn’t the problem, creating a community where they want to stay there is. Many people start out on low tier servers and transfer off because the community there is not what they want to play with.

I sure do not want to run around with a bunch of disorganized people not using team speak, not running proper builds and classes not forming proper parties just kitten ing around. I want to actually play and if the server I am stuck on isn’t giving me that competitive experience, I wouldn’t play that game anymore. I would go play game where I could get an actual competitive experience instead.

GROMIT.7829:

Skeletor.9360:

TIf there was a queue system for WvW that would have probably been 7 minutes for the entire night

Queues are up to 2 hours on reset night with queues reaching 100 people or more, other border can be 20+ with a 30 minute queue so yeah we queue long enough already.

This new system will atleast go a long way to help the population disparity, the owrst example being SFR, they can blob on most border for 16 hours a day and you have zero chance of beating them, not because htey are good becuase they are terrible and thier blobs are easily killed by smaller numbers.

As a WvW’r (Not a PvE Mike O’Brien) this amazing and the lower tiers should get more people come to them as the transfer fee will discourage people from moving/bandwagoning up to SFR/Deso/Piken, You’ll see people transfer with thier heads and not thier kitten s.

Well other servers stole all our guilds and players and we still winning. For example FSP failing to win kitten is probably biggest bandwagoning fail in GW2 wvw history. Pro tip: if you frigging bandwagon all blob guilds in one server at least try to win something.

Transfer costs now:

Full: Cannot Transfer
Very High: 1800 gems
High: 1000
Medium: 500

Transfer costs after patch:

Full: Cannot Transfer
Very High: 1800 gems
High: 1000
Medium: 500

What changes is the definition of of what is Very High ect. Atm it takes into account both PvE and WvW players. After patch its not going to care about those players who only play PvE. Some servers might become easier to transfer to, and some servers might become FULL.

So yes. Tomorrow you most likely cannot go to servers like SFR or FSP.

Coinhead.7591:

Transfer costs now:

Full: Cannot Transfer
Very High: 1800 gems
High: 1000
Medium: 500

Transfer costs after patch:

Full: Cannot Transfer
Very High: 1800 gems
High: 1000
Medium: 500

What changes is the definition of of what is Very High ect. Atm it takes into account both PvE and WvW players. After patch its not going to care about those players who only play PvE. Some servers might become easier to transfer to, and some servers might become FULL.

So yes. Tomorrow you most likely cannot go to servers like SFR or FSP.

This isn’t exactly correct, many PVE guilds ALSO run EoTM so will be counted in wvw populations, even if they never go into wvw, though that makes about as much sense as it does to walk into a wall over and over. ANY servers that have an EoTM population even if they have no wvw population, it will still be held against them from how it was explained to me.

lil devils x.6071:

Coinhead.7591:

Transfer costs now:

Full: Cannot Transfer
Very High: 1800 gems
High: 1000
Medium: 500

Transfer costs after patch:

Full: Cannot Transfer
Very High: 1800 gems
High: 1000
Medium: 500

What changes is the definition of of what is Very High ect. Atm it takes into account both PvE and WvW players. After patch its not going to care about those players who only play PvE. Some servers might become easier to transfer to, and some servers might become FULL.

So yes. Tomorrow you most likely cannot go to servers like SFR or FSP.

This isn’t exactly correct, many PVE guilds ALSO run EoTM so will be counted in wvw populations, even if they never go into wvw, though that makes about as much sense as it does to walk into a wall over and over. ANY servers that have an EoTM population even if they have no wvw population, it will still be held against them from how it was explained to me.

You don’t have to worry about EotM being counted,

“No, EotM won’t be counted towards WvW. I don’t think it’s the same experience, and you can always enter it since it can have as many instances as needed, so there’s really not that same population problem as in “core” WvW."

Samuel of ANet said that on the reddit comment section. Here’s the link to it; https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3eh64z/changes_coming_to_transfer_cost_calculations/ctf4x05

Ultimaistanza.4793:

lil devils x.6071:

Coinhead.7591:

Transfer costs now:

Full: Cannot Transfer
Very High: 1800 gems
High: 1000
Medium: 500

Transfer costs after patch:

Full: Cannot Transfer
Very High: 1800 gems
High: 1000
Medium: 500

What changes is the definition of of what is Very High ect. Atm it takes into account both PvE and WvW players. After patch its not going to care about those players who only play PvE. Some servers might become easier to transfer to, and some servers might become FULL.

So yes. Tomorrow you most likely cannot go to servers like SFR or FSP.

This isn’t exactly correct, many PVE guilds ALSO run EoTM so will be counted in wvw populations, even if they never go into wvw, though that makes about as much sense as it does to walk into a wall over and over. ANY servers that have an EoTM population even if they have no wvw population, it will still be held against them from how it was explained to me.

You don’t have to worry about EotM being counted,

“No, EotM won’t be counted towards WvW. I don’t think it’s the same experience, and you can always enter it since it can have as many instances as needed, so there’s really not that same population problem as in “core” WvW."

Samuel of ANet said that on the reddit comment section. Here’s the link to it; https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3eh64z/changes_coming_to_transfer_cost_calculations/ctf4x05

That is a relief. When they told me EoTM was going to be counted I was like WHY? WHY would they do that?

EoTm has its own population problem. Red is always the least populated servers and Red always gets farmed. This ought to be fixed someday.

last I checked U2 were not trapped by Apple or anyone else.

MaximillianVonSchatten.6278:

They should add a monthly fee to people using WvW on high population servers since they have a third viable game mode that low tier servers dont have. Problem solved.

that sounds more like an argument from an emotional response rather than a logical one.

Fuzzion.2504:

last I checked U2 were not trapped by Apple or anyone else.

however U2 is trapped on my phone and will not go away!