Guild Wars 2

Okay, so I’ve only dabbled in WvW. I know the zerg-running is not for me. I’m new and not likely to be very good 1 on 1 against other players for many months, if ever.

What I’d like to build is a harrassment/annoyance/surveillance type character. Someone who can sneak around, get behind enemy lines, pick off supply caravans, provide information about zerg movements to my team, and so forth.

It should be high mobility, evasion and survivability. I don’t care much about beating the other guy if I run into him in a dark alley; that would be nice, but it’s optional. I just don’t want him to beat me either, I want to get away and keep doing what I’m doing.

I’ve been building a thief believing it would be the natural choice for this. So far I’ve played it a bit in WvW but being upleveled I’m still pretty weak and lack experience. Is it a good idea to continue to pursue for this purpose or would another class be a better idea?

If I stick with the thief can anyone suggest a good build for this concept? I do have a few ideas but am eager to learn more. Thanks.

Warrior with some clerics gear and -condi duration food/runes. Even with the investment in healing power, your 100b on a stunned guy will still do like 5-6k damage, and render you nigh unkillable..

Stealth spamming regen thief, hands down.

p/d thief. You only die if you get unexpectedly ganked by 5 people or you play bad.

hands down the most annoying class = perma stealth thief

Renny.6571:

p/d thief. You only die if you get unexpectedly ganked by 5 people or you play bad.

This. You really don’t die with this build if you’re careful. I can kill dolyaks even if they are escorted by 3-5 players (except if they are very good and know exactly what they are doing, but even in this case i can run away most of the time).

Also : shadowstep ftw.

Permastealth regen thief or immune to everything regen warrior. The only difference is if you want to be invisible or not. Both are unbelievably annoying and can get away from anything unless you mess up or are stupid and chose to stay and fight 20-30 people alone. I’ve played both, I like the warrior better though despite lack of invisibility. thief will do more damage unless you’re using a hybrid condition warrior build, but then you kinda need a bow and s/s and lose the mobility and trolliness of GS. I’d say try both and see what you like better. its not like it’s hard to get exotic gear for 2 80s and you can level both pretty easily wandering around in wvw.

Alternatively, you can try to revive the old tankcat build to its former glory.
Engineer builds need loads of fine adjustment, tho.

You need to be too nimble for a zerg to care about and too tanky for enemy roamers to care about, then you can do whatever you want.
Engineer can get you some sort of middle ground.

^ The old Medicat has lost a lot of its power due to nerfs to Elixir S though it’s still good.

My suggestion is either a stealth thief or blackwater mesmer. That kind of mesmer puts a crapton of conditions on you while still being very survivable and constantly stealthing. Clones everywhere and you dancing in and out of stealth.

Infinite cloning mesmer can also be very annoying.

Thanks for all the replies!

I get that warrior seems to be the answer to all build questions these days. (Sad face.) But I really am going for sneaky/deceptive here. I want to use stealth so I want to stick with thief if that’s at all viable.

My “main” (first character, not really all that well equipped yet) is a mesmer. I haven’t had a lot of luck with it in WvW so far, at least in part due to the difficulty of playing the class well. Also, the class is slow and I can’t afford 6 traveler’s runes yet.

Can anyone possibly give me a link to a specific high-regen high-stealth thief build, so I can see what sorts of traits and gear I should be looking at? I’m still really, really new so the build names don’t mean a lot to me.

Also, I believe permastealth disappears in 4 weeks so I need to know how to adapt to that as well, if possible…

Only class that drives me nuts is the turbo-speed-running away warrior after his health gets to 5%.

That’s my next project toon to create and learn.

That could be fun too, Jayne.

lol do it. I have screamed at my monitor more than once over that. haha

There’s a specific warrior build that will give you endless health regen — someone can beat on you for quite a while and you’ll take little damage (signets I think). However, you won’t do much damage either, from what I’ve been told.

I do have a level 20 warrior. TBH I don’t play her much because, well, warriors seem like easy button in this game and there are just too many of them around. But maybe if I played it a different way…

Any idea where I can find the build in question? Again, I’m rather new and clueless. Thanks.

Qaelyn.7612:

My “main” (first character, not really all that well equipped yet) is a mesmer. I haven’t had a lot of luck with it in WvW so far, at least in part due to the difficulty of playing the class well. Also, the class is slow and I can’t afford 6 traveler’s runes yet.
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Centaur Runes.
You could stuff all characters of all players in multiple guilds with these and it would still be cheaper than a set of traveller runes.

I’ve seen a Sword&Shield/Hammer warrior last forever against several groups 4-5 opponents for a couple of hours and take them down one by one, regenerating and running so fast I could hardly believe it was possible. Either it was cheats, or the most annoying Lancelot act ever, but that guy just wouldn’t let anyone pass him.

I wanna be that guy.

Lots of vids on youtube about those warriors .. just search Full Regen Warrior I think to find it …

Centaur runes would help except I’d have to spam my heal ability every 15 seconds, and it gets old fast. The thief is far more mobile in every way.

Jayne, youtube videos don’t show gear, traits, etc. But I’ll look around and maybe ask on the warrior forum.

nachtritter.8961:

I’ve seen a Sword&Shield/Hammer warrior last forever against several groups 4-5 opponents for a couple of hours and take them down one by one, regenerating and running so fast I could hardly believe it was possible. Either it was cheats, or the most annoying Lancelot act ever, but that guy just wouldn’t let anyone pass him.

I wanna be that guy.

It’s not cheats. Its very possible and there are numerous builds floating around that can accomplish that. And it’s pretty hard to die using any of those builds even against overwhelming odds. Warrior’s sustainability is like 10X that of all other classes combined. There are lots of idiots who will say that warrior doesn’t have better survivability than guardian or thief, but those players are just terrible and don’t know how to use warrior properly. TBH, it gets VERY boring after awhile, I only play mine when we have a bad matchup and I just wanna troll. Right now warrior is just a total faceroll easy mode class. If you don’t wanna die and just want god mode without having to think or react to what your enemy does while your class passively carries you, roll warrior and use one of those trolly builds everyone has vids of on youtube.

Qaelyn.7612:

Centaur runes would help except I’d have to spam my heal ability every 15 seconds, and it gets old fast. The thief is far more mobile in every way.

Jayne, youtube videos don’t show gear, traits, etc. But I’ll look around and maybe ask on the warrior forum.

Look at the description under each video. A lot of them have links to inthemists builds.

Thanks.

Any particular suggestions? I’m not really sure even exactly what to search for.

Don’t forget bunker spirit regen ranger

clint.5681:

Don’t forget bunker spirit regen ranger

that ranger only have one stability. remove it or stunlock the ranger and gg.

If your talking hammer, it’s really easy to avoid it, then it’s GG for war

Sir Koroshi had a full regen warrior, however he has stopped playing. I have a warrior with the exact setup he had. Will try to find a link and if I can’t I will bring mine out of the closet and give you the breakdown. I have yet to play it in WvW, it was something I intended to do but I have so many alts I got sidetracked.

Editing in links:

IntoTheMists build link: http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-s;4NK-O0_4BL-60;9;49-ETE0;31;007B2;0U-k66;1CqNYCqNYBBGW0-gYO0;1wV1X6Y9ZH4Ma51-870HV8aNX8a;9;9;9;9;9;4V3k3o

YouTube Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj5FL6tdmnA

Corrected Mists link, evidently someone made a build that was supposed to be Koroshi’s but had several things wrong.

Thanks for the build link GOSU. I’ll try to watch the video but I likely am not experienced enough to make much sense of it.

Figured out why that build link I posted seemed odd with the mace in it, it was someone’s attempt to put Koroshi’s build in. It had a few things wrong, including some traits. I corrected the link above.

thief p/d, shortbow 0,0,30,15,25.

GOSU.9574:

Stealth spamming regen thief, hands down.

This is one of the most annoying. They can hit for good damage and then stealth away and if you decide to run off instead of engage, they can just do it again until you go down. d/p with shortbow can get annoying if a thief is there just to annoy/slow you.

permastealth thief. cannot kill, they can reset and nick away at you with some big hits. easily the most annoying, which is why thieves who want a challenge don’t play this broken spec.

Ostra.3927:

hands down the most annoying class = perma stealth thief

Yup.

Annoying is awesome! But perma-stealth is going away.

I’m really not sure how to set up a high-regen thief, any tips? Thanks.