Our next tournament will be an extremely intense, exciting four-week-long tournament battle. The shorter format will ensure that worlds will not be repeatedly matched against one another, which will more closely resemble a true Swiss-style tournament. Each matchup will be unique, and every win—or upset—will make a huge difference!
I do not mind facing SFR and Kodash again and again. It keeps it ‘interesting’. However, it seems to me that Anet guaranteed we would have ‘unique’ matches every week…
At least, I hoped Anet learned to not make promises they cannot keep…
I’d love to receive a reply from Anet on this post…LOL.
#alwaysthesame
Yes, arenanet at best was wrong again, at worst, lied again. Dont really take what they say to seriously, as it often doesnt represent their true intentions or what is actually going to happen.
Well I will log in, do my 5 events and then log out until the end of the week when the reset occurs and wait for the mad dash to get back into wvw to get my rewards…
yes, the matchups turned out not to be absolutely unique every single week.
maybe ArenaNet deliberately lied to us about them being unique, because they are dishonest. or maybe ArenaNet made claims that were clearly untrue because they are incompetent.
or maybe they just made an honest mistake, one developer said “repeats will be significantly reduced”, a team manager repeated it as “the repeats problem has been eliminated” then somebody in marketing posts that “there will be no repeats”.
do we really need a new thread for this every few days?
that’s kind of like what we had in season 1. people complained that all the matches were blowouts because you had servers at the top of the league matched up against servers at the bottom.
look at servers 7 8 and 9. after the first week (which is pretty even), they all get to experience 3 weeks of getting utterly crushed.
at least the swiss style matchups put the winners together with the winners (which means servers at the top and bottom of the league can expect to see each other repeatedly).
that’s kind of like what we had in season 1. people complained that all the matches were blowouts because you had servers at the top of the league matched up against servers at the bottom.
look at servers 7 8 and 9. after the first week (which is pretty even), they all get to experience 3 weeks of getting utterly crushed.
at least the swiss style matchups put the winners together with the winners (which means servers at the top and bottom of the league can expect to see each other repeatedly).
-ken
I understand what you are saying, however “unique” means just that… not “the same”..
What we need more than anything is server balance, rather than letting everyone stack on the top team in each league just so they can walk over all the other teams and get max rewards for doing as little as possible, while those that fight on smaller servers get nothing for actually putting up a good fight but losing due to coverage…
it is hard to read that post and still think that we would be getting unique matchups every week. they did 2 things to reduce the number of repeats: changed the scoring from 5/3/1 to 5/3/2, and reduce the tournament to only 4 weeks.
that’s kind of like what we had in season 1. people complained that all the matches were blowouts because you had servers at the top of the league matched up against servers at the bottom.
look at servers 7 8 and 9. after the first week (which is pretty even), they all get to experience 3 weeks of getting utterly crushed.
at least the swiss style matchups put the winners together with the winners (which means servers at the top and bottom of the league can expect to see each other repeatedly).
-ken
I understand what you are saying, however “unique” means just that… not “the same”..
What we need more than anything is server balance, rather than letting everyone stack on the top team in each league just so they can walk over all the other teams and get max rewards for doing as little as possible, while those that fight on smaller servers get nothing for actually putting up a good fight but losing due to coverage…
This is where the real problem lies…
They back tracked on unique before the season even started and said something like less likely or less often. Too hard to search the forums, but it was Devon if I recall properly.
Our next tournament will be an extremely intense, exciting four-week-long tournament battle. The shorter format will ensure that worlds will not be repeatedly matched against one another, which will more closely resemble a true Swiss-style tournament. Each matchup will be unique, and every win—or upset—will make a huge difference!
Our next tournament will be an extremely intense, exciting four-week-long tournament battle. The shorter format will ensure that worlds will not be repeatedly matched against one another, which will more closely resemble a true Swiss-style tournament. Each matchup will be unique, and every win—or upset—will make a huge difference!
I’m from Augury Rock, and it’s the 3rd time we meet PS. And the second time we have a PS/AR/AM match-up. So unique !
Your match ups so far this tournament:
Week 1: Augury Rock vs Aurora Glade vs Arborstone
Week 2: Piken Square vs Augury Rock vs Gunnars Hold
Week 3. Piken Square vs Abaddon Mouth vs Augury Rock
It’s not the second time of an PS/AR/AM during the tournament. That could very well change for the last week but so far you’ve had unique match ups for the duration of the tournament.
Our next tournament will be an extremely intense, exciting four-week-long tournament battle. The shorter format will ensure that worlds will not be repeatedly matched against one another, which will more closely resemble a true Swiss-style tournament. Each matchup will be unique, and every win—or upset—will make a huge difference!
I’m from Augury Rock, and it’s the 3rd time we meet PS. And the second time we have a PS/AR/AM match-up. So unique !
Your match ups so far this tournament:
Week 1: Augury Rock vs Aurora Glade vs Arborstone
Week 2: Piken Square vs Augury Rock vs Gunnars Hold
Week 3. Piken Square vs Abaddon Mouth vs Augury Rock
It’s not the second time of an PS/AR/AM during the tournament. That could very well change for the last week but so far you’ve had unique match ups for the duration of the tournament.
EU already reset and another thread states same exact matchup as seen before…..
Week 1 : Piken Square vs Abaddon Mouth vs Augury Rock
Week 2: Augury Rock vs Aurora Glade vs Arborstone
Week 3: Piken Square vs Augury Rock vs Gunnars Hold
Week 4. Piken Square vs Abaddon Mouth vs Augury Rock
Our next tournament will be an extremely intense, exciting four-week-long tournament battle. The shorter format will ensure that worlds will not be repeatedly matched against one another, which will more closely resemble a true Swiss-style tournament. Each matchup will be unique, and every win—or upset—will make a huge difference!
I’m from Augury Rock, and it’s the 3rd time we meet PS. And the second time we have a PS/AR/AM match-up. So unique !
Your match ups so far this tournament:
Week 1: Augury Rock vs Aurora Glade vs Arborstone
Week 2: Piken Square vs Augury Rock vs Gunnars Hold
Week 3. Piken Square vs Abaddon Mouth vs Augury Rock
It’s not the second time of an PS/AR/AM during the tournament. That could very well change for the last week but so far you’ve had unique match ups for the duration of the tournament.
EU already reset and another thread states same exact matchup as seen before…..
Ah. I didn’t realize that you guys switch over sooner there. After looking at what was the first week, PS/AM/AR haven’t had an entire tournament of unique matches.
yes, the matchups turned out not to be absolutely unique every single week.
maybe ArenaNet deliberately lied to us about them being unique, because they are dishonest. or maybe ArenaNet made claims that were clearly untrue because they are incompetent.
or maybe they just made an honest mistake, one developer said “repeats will be significantly reduced”, a team manager repeated it as “the repeats problem has been eliminated” then somebody in marketing posts that “there will be no repeats”.
do we really need a new thread for this every few days?
-ken
Yes, obviously people who care need to vent this.
If someone promises something, I tend to have expectations. Once my expectations are deluded, I complain.
yes, the matchups turned out not to be absolutely unique every single week.
maybe ArenaNet deliberately lied to us about them being unique, because they are dishonest. or maybe ArenaNet made claims that were clearly untrue because they are incompetent.
or maybe they just made an honest mistake, one developer said “repeats will be significantly reduced”, a team manager repeated it as “the repeats problem has been eliminated” then somebody in marketing posts that “there will be no repeats”.
do we really need a new thread for this every few days?
-ken
Yes, obviously people who care need to vent this.
If someone promises something, I tend to have expectations. Once my expectations are deluded, I complain.
Mind that my complaints are about playing 75% of the tournament with the same server and 50% of the tournament with exactly the same servers at the same time. Since I play against people of that server already 90% of the time outside of the season…I hoped maybe this time would have been different (as promised by Anet).
Just for argument’s sake:
From Desolation’s prospective (but feel free to pick another server) a tournament with unique matches should have been:
1 week: Desolation / Seafarer’s Rest / Kodash
2 week: Desolation / Elona Reach / Baruch Bay
3 week: Desolation / Gandara / Riverside
4 week: Desolation / Jade Sea / Far Shiverpeaks
Im not the best at math here, but i did a quick calculation with just the NA servers.
s1 was 3.6% repeat match ups
s2 was 13.9% repeat match ups
s3 was 18.75% repeat match ups
most of the repeat match ups in s2 were in gold league due to only having 6 servers rather than 9 as in silver/bronze
What’s funny about this complaining is that having “unique” match ups would change nothing. Remember two weeks ago where most if not all match ups were complete blowouts less than a day in ?
I find it ridiculous how some players take offense from this. Look at it as a way to get your revenge on the server who won during the first week.
seems you are assuming that the ppl complaining about repeat match ups are on the winning servers, or even servers that have a chance. I would think that most of the complaints are from ppl who were on servers continuously beaten by the same server for 3 weeks and would like a chance.
further more repeating the same match ups is limiting my servers options to either tie for 2nd or give up and accept 3rd. if match ups were not repeated, the servers who tanked round 1 to get easier opponents rounds 2-3 would not be within reach of getting a 1st place.
We were lead to believe that there would not be repeats and we would simply need do our best every round. In hindsight the best route to go is 2 5 5 3 rather than put in effort and get something like 3 5 3 3 for all servers not at the top of their bracket.
repeat match ups mean its more important to manipulate your score than play hard.
