Guild Wars 2

That wouldn’t make sense because whoever got to the top of T8 would be stuck in the hole just like SF.

Isaac.6041:

It would have made more sense to just switch Sorrow’s Furnace and Gate of Madness manually. Now you have 600 extra rating points floating around. 24 × 1500 + 600.

Are you going to subtract 600 some day?

its called a bandaid cuz its temporary

Ynot.8397:

That wouldn’t make sense because whoever got to the top of T8 would be stuck in the hole just like SF.

Adding 600 points doesn’t work in the long run either. The 2 losing servers will still get their points drained and when the winning server moves up again they take all those points with them. The loser from T7 will bring less points to T8. And then ArenaNet will have to add 600 more points again some other day.

its fine to get stuck in a tier if the matchup is balanced. and according to the scores, its pretty balnced

This is what happens when someone wakes up with an idea and doesn’t think it through. I would be firing someone right about now if they didn’t have a presentation on how this would work long term.

Nuzt.7894:

This is what happens when someone wakes up with an idea and doesn’t think it through. I would be firing someone right about now if they didn’t have a presentation on how this would work long term.

wtf?
it isnt meant to be long term, devon has stated its a bandaid while they look at things.

read the dev posts in https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Confirmation-from-new-WvW-Staff-on-T8/first

oh wait. nvm. you posted in there. keep trolling. 9/10, got me.
you just want people to suffer in the status quo. idk why.

Nuzt.7894:

This is what happens when someone wakes up with an idea and doesn’t think it through. I would be firing someone right about now if they didn’t have a presentation on how this would work long term.

A multi-million dollar operation and you decide the best course of action is a last minute band-aid solution as opposed to actually fixing the problem (anyone remember the canceled reset?). GG

hard reset would not have fixed anything.

airstu.2579:

Nuzt.7894:

This is what happens when someone wakes up with an idea and doesn’t think it through. I would be firing someone right about now if they didn’t have a presentation on how this would work long term.

A multi-million dollar operation and you decide the best course of action is a last minute band-aid solution as opposed to actually fixing the problem (anyone remember the canceled reset?). GG

Yes, the best course of action was a band-aid solution while they study the rating system to find a better fix, and you know why? Because having SF stuck in T8 for idk how much longer wouldnt bring benefit to anyone.
Honestly can’t understand why so much crying over a band-aid solution that is not affecting anyone in a bad way….

wads.5730:

its fine to get stuck in a tier if the matchup is balanced. and according to the scores, its pretty balnced

Its really not fine though. This is why i’m such a strong advocate of allowing more mobility between the tiers. Problems with a matchup exacerbate when servers are locked together.

Look at the first week Sorrow’s Furnace was in T8. http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/16#na

The most balanced matchup of the week. Some thought T8 was finally where it needed to be and could just stay that way and be fun for all indefinitely.

it ended 211k 215k and 189k. a fairly OK matchup compared to what it eventually became.

wads.5730:

its fine to get stuck in a tier if the matchup is balanced. and according to the scores, its pretty balnced

SF had more points than ET and FC combined for about 10 consecutive weeks. I don’t understand what you think is balanced about that.

I’d also like to point out that we’re now halfway through the current match and SF is winning in tier 7. GoM, on the other hand, is currently in second place in tier 8, although its a close match (which is good).

It’s like chewing gum, if you have more you can stretch it out more which in our case is bad because it will create bigger gaps.

Ilesyt.7084:

It’s like chewing gum, if you have more you can stretch it out more which in our case is bad because it will create bigger gaps.

SOO DEEP

fivekiller.1432:

wads.5730:

its fine to get stuck in a tier if the matchup is balanced. and according to the scores, its pretty balnced

Its really not fine though. This is why i’m such a strong advocate of allowing more mobility between the tiers. Problems with a matchup exacerbate when servers are locked together.

Look at the first week Sorrow’s Furnace was in T8. http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/16#na

The most balanced matchup of the week. Some thought T8 was finally where it needed to be and could just stay that way and be fun for all indefinitely.

it ended 211k 215k and 189k. a fairly OK matchup compared to what it eventually became.

that was also before free transfers ended. theres no reason to assume a balanced matchup now will devolve into what it was before.

EnemyCrusher.7324:

SF had more points than ET and FC combined for about 10 consecutive weeks. I don’t understand what you think is balanced about that.

I’d also like to point out that we’re now halfway through the current match and SF is winning in tier 7. GoM, on the other hand, is currently in second place in tier 8, although its a close match (which is good).

i was speaking generally, and i’m talking about this weeks T8 scores thus far.

wads.5730:

that was also before free transfers ended. theres no reason to assume a balanced matchup now will devolve into what it was before.

This is true!

I will wager the same thing will occur with or without free transfers. In 6 weeks maybe we will see!

My hypothesis is:

Players dislike playing games they cannot win.
Players will stop playing games they dislike at a greater rate than players who are winning a game.

Perhaps time will tell.