Guild Wars 2

lol…What even is this?……Seriously…….this has been a WvW daily achieve for a while now, but really, this is such a blatant way to sneak a little PvE crap into WvW lmao……killing a vet creature doesn’t even have anything to do with normal WvW play…it doesn’t help me capture a camp, it doesn’t help me defend a tower….IT DOESN’T DO ANYTHING ROTFLMAO….it doesn’t do anything for you, your guild or your server when you kill a vet creature….can we please get rid of this WvW daily and can we please get rid of those vet creatures in WvW? It’s so stupid. Please replace this daily with something else.

Either that or find a way to make vet creatures and killing them relevant to WvW.

I don’t care for that daily as well and it’s the one I miss the most (I usually do all of them for the badges and EXP to grind masteries on the HoT maps – I somehow have got more than a stack of it by now..) but I guess there’s times in which people can’t find an enemy. With what would you replace it? Daily Vista viewer in wvw, Daily repairs? Sometimes there is nothing to repair, either because my server holds nothing or because they hold everything – and since no one has to tap the gates anymore to contest anything they’re always fully repaired as well. I actually don’t know with what it can be replaced.
If you’d make these creatures relevant to wvw, you would introduce more PvE to wvw as they can’t be ignored anymore if they’ve got a purpose.

Jana, you can replace them with daily siege user, or daily siege builder or destroyer/clearer, you can break up the daily defender to make them more specific like daily keep defender or tower defender, you can do daily rezzes…and when I said ‘either that or make them relevant to wvw,’ I mean if Anet is insistent on keeping daily vet creature slayer and vet creatures in WvW…if they’re not going to get rid of that PvE nonsense, then at least make them useful….like core event…even though I don’t care for core event either as it is also PvE nonsense, but at least it’s useful because it opens paper gates on objectives.

Daily defender alone is hard to get because nothing is broken anymore and camps don’t like to acknowledge that I saved them. If you now split this into Keep and Tower.. please don’t – I’d rather kill the warg.
Daily rezzes – as a solo roamer – ok. (ETA: If the mobs on EB count for that I’m in though)
Yes, they insisted, probably because they had the same problem I had when thinking of new dailies.
Give me wvw vista viewer and I’m fine, but please don’t split anything that is already a pain to get.

ETA²: I want less PvE – you can’t imagine how much the monuments kitten me off “Gah, more stuff I have to take care of and I have to run that way, then up there, then this and that – I’ll be back with the zerg in 15 mins”. Just leave the creatures for me to cloak and dagger on.
“I don’t want PvE in my dailies, make them useful so I have more PvE in my wvw” <— argh!

Defender is a pain for you? What server are you on? Play WvW and you usually end up defending at least one thing…doesn’t even matter if you ultimately save it, just that you hold it for like a couple minutes…a lot of times, the enemy trebs something from far away, so I just repair a wall and leave it, and a couple minutes later, I get the achieve.

And to clarify for the final time, I don’t like doing PvE in WvW, and would rather do away with vet creature altogether. BUT if it is going to remain, then at least when I kill it, make it do something useful, like give me a small buff for a short time, like +25 to stats or something for 5-10 min..or give my server like a small amount of points toward PPT (that could be another daily…help your server get x amount of ppt for your server). In that case, wouldn’t be ‘more PvE’ in WvW because it is already in WvW…and whatever reward you got from killing vet creature, because it’s so easy to kill, the reward would have to be very small, and if the reward is small and doesn’t do anything to weaken objectives (like core event), people wouldn’t always be trying to kill it and you wouldn’t have to always worry about it…so no, it wouldn’t be more PvE.

LionChain.7694:

Defender is a pain for you? What server are you on? Play WvW and you usually end up defending at least one thing…doesn’t even matter if you ultimately save it, just that you hold it for like a couple minutes…a lot of times, the enemy trebs something from far away, so I just repair a wall and leave it, and a couple minutes later, I get the achieve.

And to clarify for the final time, I don’t like doing PvE in WvW, and would rather do away with vet creature altogether. BUT if it is going to remain, then at least when I kill it, make it do something useful, like give me a small buff for a short time, like +25 to stats or something for 5-10 min..or give my server like a small amount of points toward PPT (that could be another daily…help your server get x amount of ppt for your server). In that case, wouldn’t be ‘more PvE’ in WvW because it is already in WvW…and whatever reward you got from killing vet creature, because it’s so easy to kill, the reward would have to be very small, and if the reward is small and doesn’t do anything to weaken objectives (like core event), people wouldn’t always be trying to kill it and you wouldn’t have to always worry about it…so no, it wouldn’t be more PvE.

I already told you: Either my server holds everything or nothing – the gates etc. aren’t touched anymore, so even if the objective is contested I can’t repair = get no credit for it. We often kill zergs in front of towers which doesn’t count as defender as well – and I really don’t want to transfer yet again just because you dislike the vets.
To clarify: You don’t understand what you’re asking for – I already explained it twice.

To make it more obvious: You can play the game mode without all PvE elements in it: You can ditch the Oasis (which I do out of principle), you don’t really need the monuments, you can go without, you don’t need the Ogres, Frogs and moles. BUT if you don’t care about them your enemy does and then you’ll have a problem, so you better flip them before someone else does – and that’s why PvE in wvw sucks because it influences the PvP elements. Add more to it “but only a small boon or anything” and wvw will suck more.

I enjoy the vet slayer. It is an objective that leads to interactions with other players. Sometimes that is as little as chatting with another roamer waiting for it to spawn. Or, it is my guild group allowing a solo player from another server to come in and finish it after we all get a hit on it. Or, like yesterday, it is a half hour of fighting over it with another small group. All of it adds to the fun.

I agree with the sentiment but this has been in the game since release I think. The problem is not all veteran creatures count and it isn’t particularly intuitive. None of the vet creatures in EBG count. The vet spider in the new BLs don’t count either. It has been this way for a long time with HoT carrying on in that tradition.

Cerby…since you don’t seem to understand what I’m saying, let me clarify so you’re not misguided by your whole ‘if you don’t like it then don’t do it’ argument. I’m a WvW player…I do WvW dailies. Sometimes, one of the four WvW dailies is something like keep capturer, which can sometimes take a long time to get (depending on your server activity, if anyone is actually interested in trying to take a keep), even in EOTM as people are going tryhard there lately. Also, sometimes, I just don’t have a lot of time to play on that particular day, so I have to go for the WvW dailies that are quickest/easiest. So sometimes, I end up having to do vet creature slayer to finish my dailies, although even that requires me to have to either run around looking for the vet creautres on the BL’s or spawn camp one of the vet creatures, either option taking me like 15-20 minutes sometimes because other people have killed all the vet creatures. So yes, sometimes I do have to do vet creature slayer.

Now, understand, the reason I’m saying to get rid of this achievement is because unlike the other WvW achievements, killing vet creature isn’t part of normal WvW play. There’s no reason to ever kill the vet creature except for when it’s a daily. Yeah, I really don’t like having PvE in WvW and I think it should be one of the things fixed with WvW, and yes that’s part of the reason why I would like vet creature slayer daily gotten rid of. But the bigger reason is because as I said, killing a vet creature isn’t part of normal WvW play because it has no impact whatsoever on your matchup…doesn’t help you win, doesn’t help your enemy win, it does nothing. I would rather see this replaced with a daily based on normal, everyday WvW gameplay, like taking/neutralizing a mercenary camp or killing mercenaries (if Anet is persistent on keeping PvE in WvW), destroying/helping to build/using siege…something that I normally do while playing WvW anyway.

Do you understand now, Cerby? But if you still don’t get it and you like doing PvE, maybe you’re the one who doesn’t belong in WvW and should go back to playing your PvE instead of annoying people on forums.

Kinda liked the daily Vet slayer because it makes you go out to places you usually don’t go to look for them. The normal ones like Daily Sentry/camp/tower/keep, are all in the same places you always go. On the same roads. Unless you’re boring and go for the Varg every time, you at least have to look a bit for the others, ended up in some interesting fights on the sand dunes near the Wurm.

It ain’t perfect, but it is ok enough, and one of the few daily’s we can reliably do in lower tiers. Defense events are almost impossible to get at times.

Dailies in general suck balls IMO. The addition of them was the first thing that got on my nerve in the game. Slowly but surely they kept adding more things like this until the game was all about following Anets carrot on a stick so you could get the reward rather than doing things I wanted because it was fun and the reward happened anyway. I know I never ‘had’ to do them but they kept nerfing the rewards in things I wanted to do so in a way they were pushing me really hard to do them…

I find daily vet slayer pretty annoying aswell. Replace it with Kill a lord in a tower or a keep.

I think it’s aimed at bringing PvE-ers into WvW. Not saying I wouldn’t mind it counting as a PvE daily instead of a WvW one, but you at least have to move out of spawn unlike Big Spender.

It was actualy fun to kill Henry (or whatever your server named that Vet Ice Wurm north of bay on alpine). I never bothered for vets on the desert border though.

They are there, it doesn’t affect WvW negatively and allows PvP people to complete their dailies quicker.

TBH I’m happy to leave these as they may encourage PvE peeps to at least visit WvW. who knows, some decent ones might just stay?

I would like a greater selection of dailies and for more to be put up, say 5 or 6 each of PvE, PvP and WvW with the limit being you can complete any 4 from each.

PvE peeps don’t need to be looking for PvE things to do in WvW to get interested in WvW.

100% support the OP! Remove this daily vet slayer thingy from WvW!

Of all the problems in WvW, the vet creatures is the one you pick on? I don’t get it.