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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

We will not contest SoR retaking the orb in the north. Any intel on what exactly happened to reset it?

EDIT: Never mind, the orb just magically appeared in DB controlled by Yak’s bend. Pure kittening Magic.

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Posted by: blink.4239

blink.4239

Class act. Let’s see if ET does the same in T1

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Posted by: Hakato.9650

Hakato.9650

NSP hacked borlis pass and anvil rock all week long. Only reason we stopped fighting was to get them out of our bracket. If you are tired of it just come to the Borlis Pass server.

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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

We didn’t do this one. We weren’t sure till a minute ago. Yak’s Bend has hacked 2 in the last 30 minutes.

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Posted by: Seeker.1493

Seeker.1493

Yep… very strange. Thank you for the consideration. EPIC will return the favor if the opportunity arises. Nearly fully reinforced keep of over 5 hours. Multiple people watching each gate. Suddenly the altar is destroyed and orb vanishes from map. We set up at the respawn altar. As time expires, there is no orb…. we look on the map and its in Dreaming Bay controlled by Yak’s bend.

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Posted by: Foresight.2056

Foresight.2056

The altar at Etheron Hills was destroyed with no walls being touched, no NPC aggro’ed, 4 hours after constant sweeps inside.

After the reset timer began to count down we moved everyone to Godsword to prepare to fight for the orb. As soon as the timer went to 0, instantly, the orb appeared in Dreaming Bay owned by Yak’s Bend.

We have video of what happened.

Props to NSP noticing and being good sports about this. We, at SoR, appreciate you guys coming forward about this and showing your support.

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Posted by: Blinded.6279

Blinded.6279

The orb in Yak’s borderlands was controlled by NSP in fully upgraded Shad Keep, and kittening magically after good hard efforts to take it from SoR, our altar exploded and the orb is in yak garrison. Wooo…

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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

Well, we tried convincing the orb carrier to drop it off at EH or drop it, but alas, not everyone agreed. We tried.

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Posted by: Seeker.1493

Seeker.1493

Thanks anyway… we can’t take it at EH anyway… altar is still destroyed with no way to repair.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

Mishi.7058

WAR guild, thank you for being good sports and not condoning what hackers do.

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Posted by: Stormcycle.4208

Stormcycle.4208

C’mon guys, Yaks Bend is a good server. Stop blaming them winning on hacks.

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Posted by: Seeker.1493

Seeker.1493

C’mon guys, Yaks Bend is a good server. Stop blaming them winning on hacks.

You must be the skilled player that retrieved the orb?

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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

And there it goes again.

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Posted by: Bunnehboo.6025

Bunnehboo.6025

if your altar was destroyed then it was most likely the work of those quaggons their lightning does that sadly. now if it wasn’t destroyed then it could be hacking. On SoR borderlands we have fraps running on our orb to catch anyone who tries to :I

And i just catch a PM (project myhem) member magically appearing in our base hmmmm video posting soon

~Caedas~

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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

How close is your altar? They just hacked it again, but we snagged it before the fly hacker could grab it.

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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

Sure the altar can be destroyed by lightning, but Yaks can’t grab it from outside 2 fortified walls, disappear from teh map and magically put it into DB.

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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

We are bringing the orb to EH.

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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

C’mon guys, Yaks Bend is a good server. Stop blaming them winning on hacks.

Thing is, they are losing.

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Posted by: ohac.8720

ohac.8720

Indeed,

At the point I seen this, I told the guild stop and not build defenses for the alter. After that I notified the server that the orb seems to be hacked and WAR does not con-don these actions. After that point others got upset as they were already pre-pairing defenses and I re-inburst them for their efforts as WAR will not defend in any which way.

After that point most on our server where discussing the issue and what happened and what could be done. I believe, over half our logged in population reported the exploit and I hope with this mass outrage we will see something happen.

While in the past on other match ups, our server was accused, WAR never took a stance for at those times we never witness this outrage. I have no doubt people on our server exploit, we removed two members recently for speed hacking. In the end, it is a game and if there is way to cheat people will find it. I should mention people that don’t care for a fare game but only griefing.

In any case, that is our stance period. We don’t care who says what about our guild , we are proud from the point we have grown and come together as a guild and will continue to do so. Blatant attacks directed to a majority or our guild will just be ignored. We don’t blame YAK server, we blame the person on YAK’s server. It only takes one to rune the game atm.

Personally my solution to the devs, shield all alters as we have in our homelands. Once the keep lord is dropped the orb can be taken. The only issues I know atm is the Mesmer snatch and grab, however I think they are fixing that. So to this end, it would make it equal to all and so far it seems, no hack has been able to deal with shielded orbs? I could be wrong, but I believe that is so?

Now you can say, they took it from you as soon as it spawned, true that but could have happened when the guy/gal that was doing it was at the alter waiting and just timed it right? Meh, not sure on how this particular exploit works, but SOMETHING definitely has to be done. At this point I am with most, just get rid of the orb power and keep it even for now. Let us just bash it out and have fun claim and defending .

Tracker Officer of [WAR]

p.s. sorry for the semi- rant, a bit late, tired and just trying to get all the thoughts out on this issue. Also note we discussed the possible lightning issue and when we seen the orb magically appear on the other alter we then knew at this point it wasn’t that it was the exploit.

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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

My friends and I have decided that cheaters sit in the corner. We’re taking Yaks off of our map.

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Posted by: ohac.8720

ohac.8720

You go Radiodread! I look forward to the reports tomorow! In any case. I am with everyone in hoping ANET finds a solution to this issue and soon. We will continue the good fight with the rest of you (BTW Awsome challenges tonight! We really are having fun this time around!)

See you in the field !

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Posted by: Fallensbane.8420

Fallensbane.8420

I agree to take a orb the keep lord should need to be killed first.

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Posted by: Radiodread.8469

Radiodread.8469

I agree to take a orb the keep lord should need to be killed first.

Agreed

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Posted by: Stormcycle.4208

Stormcycle.4208

I think they should just remove the orbs until the hacks/exploits/bugs are worked out. Flipping the bonus with the unmanned buff would help as well.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

Mishi.7058

Actually for those who say no one in Yak’s hacks. They just tried with SoR BL orb.
A mesmer flew into the garrison lord room, sadly for him, we had a mesmer fraps’ing just in case of a hacker. She called it out on vent, and we waypointed, and killed them. Currently uploading the video and we will send a ticket into Anet. (I’ll refrain from naming which guild had the hacker in it.)

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Posted by: ohac.8720

ohac.8720

Thank you Mishi! I really hope this sort of reporting helps deture others and really gets ANET’s attention!

Well thats it for me, I just was reading some other threads, WAR will keep a good fight going as best we can and I look forward to more bouts in the future with everyone this matchup!

salu!

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Posted by: Bunnehboo.6025

Bunnehboo.6025

yaks bend maybe a good server
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC9ypMovDE4&feature=youtube_gdata
but member like that are tarnishing your rep

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Posted by: Foresight.2056

Foresight.2056

yaks bend maybe a good server
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC9ypMovDE4&feature=youtube_gdata
but member like that are tarnishing your rep

Very good video, that’s undeniable evidence. I also have a screenshot where a member of the same guild Project Mayhem teleported INTO terrain after I started attacking them.

Seems like we know who’s doing this. Can Arenanet PLEASE take some action?

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Posted by: PoiSonPeZ.4286

PoiSonPeZ.4286

Please be aware that these “Yak’s Bend” hackers are coming from other servers to mess up our reputation.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

Mishi.7058

@PoiSonPeZ.4286,
1 person can ruin it for eveyrone.

However I’ve only seen 1 guild from Yak’s openly state they would no longer defend an orb due to their server hacking it.

So I can say yes, 1 person can tarnish an entire server’s reputation, however all guilds could save it by following the precedence which WAR guild has done.

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Posted by: Mooncow.6847

Mooncow.6847

Think how good Kaineng would be if we hacked

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Posted by: Foresight.2056

Foresight.2056

This is video proof that I mentioned earlier that our buildings were completely undamaged and the altar was broken. You can also see near the end where Yak’s Bend instantly hast the orb in their keep when it was supposed to reset.

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Posted by: ohac.8720

ohac.8720

Thank you for the kind words, I seen no reason for WAR to pursue a farce. Thou I knew in time that the orb would move or be taken again, it was our sign to you guys that WAR understood what just occured and would do nothing to interfer. We even discussed at one point lining up on a pathway when and if you got the orb to salute you all and bow to show we won’t stop you. Sadly however, I did not know (at the time) that your alter was destroyed.

In anycase anyone and I mean ANYONE defending this action, denying this action makes you just as guilty as the one that did it. Sorry, but if you can’t see that when most of two other servers plus now a video say otherwise, your are in a Bill Clinton moment of denial and I feel sorry for you.

See many of you again in the field, beyond this issue, we are having a blast, you have frustrated some members, excited others and made me cry in joy for the fantastic fights you guys have brought to the table.

See you in the field!

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Posted by: Sporadicus.1028

Sporadicus.1028

I wouldn’t doubt it that there are people in Yak’s Bend who hacks in WvW. There are people in EVERY server who does it.

I hope that this is sabotage from other servers as it’s pitiful that there would be folks in our server playing this way. I hate pieces of kitten like this.

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Posted by: Stormcycle.4208

Stormcycle.4208

How did your altar come back? When NSP hacked AR the last two weeks, our altars never respawned after they were destroyed. The hackers grabbed the orb and flew them back to NSP garrisons and keeps as well within seconds. We never managed to get a fraps though, it happened so fast. All we managed to get was a screenshot of the orb flying out of the keep but the hacker logged before the shot was taken so all we got was a picture of the orb in the sky.

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Posted by: Bonx.3856

Bonx.3856

We had to abandon the keep and let it get taken so that it would reset the altar, then take it back again. Ridiculous, I know.

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Posted by: SmoothJazz.1375

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I just wanted to chime in, that this was a SINGLE orb that was hacked, the one taken in SoR was legit.

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Posted by: Bunnehboo.6025

Bunnehboo.6025

idk what happened our altar just magically came right back up
last time our altar got destoryed by quaggons the altar was broken permentally and the orb lying right there

:/ never came back his was on SBI though

legit how? so you mean that mesmers can run into a fully upgraded garrison uncontested and take the orb?

why are we spending money on gaurds, walls, and gates just for this.
i call bs on it being legit and if it is i think ppl will want their upgrade money back cause its appearently not worth it

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Posted by: Stormcycle.4208

Stormcycle.4208

We had to abandon the keep and let it get taken so that it would reset the altar, then take it back again. Ridiculous, I know.

No, I mean in the video the alter respawns immediately after being broken and they kill the mesmer. Also when ours was hacked we controlled quaggans. In any case its just a strange difference in the hackings that I noticed and am wondering about.

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Posted by: Bunnehboo.6025

Bunnehboo.6025

idk last time i’ve been on a map with the altar being broken it never came back. and im sure most of us were like well shet now what. :c guess our tears healed the altar

but in reality i have no idea what made the altar come back right away. and i notice it looked like the orb was still there when i came back. maybe a orb bug on anets part?

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Posted by: Blinded.6279

Blinded.6279

@smoothjazz

No…. multiple orbs have been hacked by Yak’s in various Borderlands from fortified keeps owned for hours without any attack.

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Posted by: Libalaw.5218

Libalaw.5218

In one of the most recent patches they fixed the bug making altars not repair themselves.

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Posted by: fivekiller.1432

fivekiller.1432

it is terrible when one or two players hack and ruin the fun for everyone.

it is also terrible when some place blame on an otherwise entire server full of good people trying to play an honest game.

I have so far seen hacking on both sides of nearly every matchup the past few weeks. It is a problem with the game — not a problem with one or two servers. Please try to be reasonable about this and stop slandering individual servers and start slandering individuals.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

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I find it amusing how people are saying “no it’s legit” when the invader went into the lord room of a keep which had never been lost, was not under attack, no walls or gates were down, and was not contested.

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Posted by: ohac.8720

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Agreed, there is “no legit” reason for these things to occure. For as stated above, if this is the case why even play at this point, why spend money on keep defenses. What your telling us it’s about stealth wars? Hmm I didn’t sign up for a game called stealth wars 2.

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Posted by: Windmoor.9834

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What I’m about to say is not quite relevent to the topic at hand, but kinda fits the theme.

I have been actively discourging building any siege in the Citadal area of NSP BL. I encourage other servers to hold this honourable stance. This is a known exploit and should be frowned upon by everyone looking for good fair fun in these matches.

Don’t fear the unknown, CONQUER IT!!!