Guild Wars 2

I have been thinking about a new website idea but wonder how many would like to use it…

Since they are releasing the trait API soon, it will be possible to get the entire build of a player from the API and all you need is the token key.

So, for example, if all the players in a guild were to give their token key to their guild leader, he could see the list of all the players in the guild and he could see at a glimpse if they are running the builds they are supposed to run and have the gear they are supposed to have.

Would any group be interested in such a website?

www.trustissuewars2.com maybe?

I think there is bigger problems than builds in a guild if the leader doesn’t trust his members.

Paavotar.3971:

www.trustissuewars2.com maybe?

I think there is bigger problems than builds in a guild if the leader doesn’t trust his members.

Lol yeah.

I honestly dont think WvW guilds should take this path. It will only lead to the Dark Side.

It will probably be bad enough when we start seeing lfg with “Zerkers only, need hardcoreGW2dungeonrunners.com validated account!!!”

Paavotar.3971:

www.trustissuewars2.com maybe?

I think there is bigger problems than builds in a guild if the leader doesn’t trust his members.

That’s a very sad way to think about it. I had a totally different view on it.

My idea was more to help everyone get to the desired result faster. When you come up with totally different builds and wanna try a new tactics, it sometimes take a very long time to set up all your raiders. Time which could be spent raiding.

For example, when someone give me a new build, I would really like to be able to quickly see what I need to change in order to get his build without going through every piece of armor, sigil, runes, utility and trait one by one to make sure I picked the right one.

It can also help to manage expectation for casual groups. If the raid leader wanna try a new tactic that require specific gear/build and that only 3 players out of 25 can get that gear for the raid then you know that the result might not be optimal.

In the end, it would be a tool to help players, even if they decide to use it for “evil” stuff…

Gudradain.3892:

My idea was more to help everyone get to the desired result faster, it would be a tool to help players, even if they decide to use it for “evil” stuff…

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http://mygw2.wvwintel.com/

You can only check one player at a time, but this essentially does what you want. I would imagine the developer of this site will update it to include traits when that is out.

Guild leader can just paste everyone’s key into a notepad.

I think it’s an excellent idea, and will allow the kinds of guilds that actually help one another to boost their players much easier. Sadly, there will be some stupidity with the ‘yunoZerk mesmer, lul newb’ garbage, but there’s always going to be that crowd!

Gudradain.3892:

Paavotar.3971:

www.trustissuewars2.com maybe?

I think there is bigger problems than builds in a guild if the leader doesn’t trust his members.

That’s a very sad way to think about it. I had a totally different view on it.

My idea was more to help everyone get to the desired result faster. When you come up with totally different builds and wanna try a new tactics, it sometimes take a very long time to set up all your raiders. Time which could be spent raiding.

For example, when someone give me a new build, I would really like to be able to quickly see what I need to change in order to get his build without going through every piece of armor, sigil, runes, utility and trait one by one to make sure I picked the right one.

It can also help to manage expectation for casual groups. If the raid leader wanna try a new tactic that require specific gear/build and that only 3 players out of 25 can get that gear for the raid then you know that the result might not be optimal.

In the end, it would be a tool to help players, even if they decide to use it for “evil” stuff…

Ok positive mindset, here we go.

Maybe if you didn’t make the site like that where you could just inspect all your guildies, but make a group, any amount of players and then you can assign builds to them. These are all empty spots. Now, a guildie can go into the system, look through the builds and so on, and Sign up for a position he finds interesting and then changes his build on the build you gave.

For example, you have made your “dream composition” and I go check it out. I main warrior and ele, so I look all the ele and warrior spots on your dream team through and find that you have interesting build there on the 2nd ele. I sign up for it so everyone in the guild knows that the spot has been reserved for me.

Now I alter my build to match with your idea and after that I post my token to the website and it checks out how much my build matches yours. Lets say 95% was same as you, but I didn’t have couple of those zerker asc trinkets so I replaced them with exotics.

Later on you can go to the website and see how many spots been taken and whats the matching % for every individual AND you can check how they differ from your view if you so want.

I know, the idea got out of hand and grew quite a bit, but I hope I explained my view clear enough.

Gudradain.3892:

In the end, it would be a tool to help players, even if they decide to use it for “evil” stuff…

Yes thats what they all say… And then the tool turn out to be a nuclear bomb, lol.

Look if you want to do such a webpage, just do it. If guilds want to use it, let them. I just dont think think people will use it as a tool to improve raiding, they will use it to control other people.

The greatest evil is invented with the best intentions. (i think that’s a quote somewhere).

If you remember gearscore from world of warcraft you’ll know why this is a bad idea. It automatically inspected gear and made it super easy to boil a person down to a number (that was almost constantly abused for raids). Gearscore was one of the reasons I left world of warcraft as it made it nearly impossible to do any raids unless you happened to find a raiding guild.

Create a tool like this and you’ll eventually end up with every guild having a requirement for an account token ID to join. They’ll keep constant tabs on you and kick you the moment you stray from their thought of success. Sure it will start with only hard core guilds but soon the concept becomes meta as meta becomes easier to enforce.

That dungeon thing will become the norm too as more and more people ask for token ids to join parties where they’ll check you out.

It basically boils down to this: A person is more likely to be a kitten-hole if it is easier for him to be a kitten-hole. This tool while released with the best intentions will be perverted into a weapon of exclusion as raids find it easier to weed out players they don’t want by reducing them to a number.

This is not a memory I want to relive in Guildwars 2. I guess its inevitable though. If you don’t do it someone eventually will.