Guild Wars 2

As I will be adding EU servers to the top 7 servers of NA – JQ/BG/TC/YB/SoS/FA/DB
for statistical chart analysis, i need the top 7 or 9 EU servers. As i see your glicko scores are very close i do not know how i should choose which ones. You help will be greatly appreciated.

The top 6 of SFR, Deso, Kodash, JS, FSP and Gandara is fairly well established, but picking one out of Piken, BB, RS and AR is hard. As others have said, any one of those could beat any other on any given week, and/or push higher servers hard too.

As I see it the current top 7 is pretty good but if you want to make sure to always have top servers you could probably make an argument to go as far as top 10. If one has to be eliminated I’d say baruch or piken and then I still know they both can put up a fight against Deso.

So that would mean(sorry if i get the abbreviations wrong)

SFR
DESO
KOD
JS
FSP
GAND
AGR
RS
BB
PS

?

Also what servers from that list have really low populations but are there but have low pops?

What exactly are you analyzing? The thing about EU is that the servers all the way down to Drakkar Lake which is 11th can all put up a good fight against each other during prime time.

My top 9 would be:
1)SFR
2)Deso
3)KD
4)FSP
5)JS
6)Gand
7)BB
8)RS
9)AR

10 and 11 would go to Piken Square and Drakkar Lake respectively.

For your second question are you asking about the server with the lowest coverage or the server with the lowest prime time numbers or the server with the lowest population on the server selection list?

For coverage, answer is pretty self explanatory. For prime time I’d say Riverside has the smallest prime time force but they get bumped up because of their huge morning zergs. Baruch Bay’s biggest advantage is that prime time in Spain starts when prime time is ending for the other countries. Baruch Bay often has upswings and downswings and are currently in an upswing so who knows how long until they start tumbling down the ranks again.

For overall server population, the first server in this list that would go full is Deso followed by BB. Then it’ll most likely go Gand → SFR → RS → FSP → JS → KD → AR.

Being from Piken I can tell you that we’re much higher on the ranking than our WvW population would suggest. We can put up a sizeable and well-led force on prime time, but outside of that we are lucky to have one commander across all four maps. It’s very evident this week when we’re facing two servers with a very high WvW population.

So in summary, NA has a total of 7 top servers and EU has 11. And with that 11, its very hard to pick 9 or even 7 of the top performers because they are all almost even?

So it is therefore impossible to compare NA and EU in terms of game wins unless we go with this?

EU
———
SFR
Deso
KD
FSP
JS
Gand
BB

NA
———
BG
TC
JQ
FA
YB
SoS
DB

Start to scrats off SFR ftom top we lost like all the comanders and we only have guilds now.
Deso and Koda and even JS has better blobs whit lot more comanders.

JoshDavies.4138:

The top 6 of SFR, Deso, Kodash, JS, FSP and Gandara is fairly well established, but picking one out of Piken, BB, RS and AR is hard. As others have said, any one of those could beat any other on any given week, and/or push higher servers hard too.

Good info mate. I will wait till S4(when it happens) to choose the 9 gold teams.

What I love about this thread is just how wrong it is!

Do you think that just because they are listed 1-8 and the 9th being one chosen from whoever is between 9-12 on the rankings makes them the best?

Yes they are the “top” servers in rankings, but as we’ve said about WvW, it’s not about your skill, it’s about how many players you have over the 24 hour period.

Numbers and coverage makes you “top”, but not the best.

Then let’s not forget that many people say that EU servers are more skilled than NA servers, even if both play as zergs. So comparing ratings between NA and EU servers when we’ve never had matchups between them is just making assumptions again.

So TC may currently have a rating of 2133, and SFR has a rating of 1912; but dont assume that because of that TC, or even BG and FA which also have higher ratings, will be able to beat SFR.

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054:

What I love about this thread is just how wrong it is!

Do you think that just because they are listed 1-8 and the 9th being one chosen from whoever is between 9-12 on the rankings makes them the best?

Yes they are the “top” servers in rankings, but as we’ve said about WvW, it’s not about your skill, it’s about how many players you have over the 24 hour period.

Numbers and coverage makes you “top”, but not the best.

Then let’s not forget that many people say that EU servers are more skilled than NA servers, even if both play as zergs. So comparing ratings between NA and EU servers when we’ve never had matchups between them is just making assumptions again.

So TC may currently have a rating of 2133, and SFR has a rating of 1912; but dont assume that because of that TC, or even BG and FA which also have higher ratings, will be able to beat SFR.

NONONONONO.

SFR atm is like in the worst state of lacking everything that it has ever been before. WE are seriously thinking of butting SFR down and re doing new server.

NA would destroy EU servers through purely coverage. EU would dominate EU prime but then NA would take control of the night and build offense wp’s. As NA log off the early log ones from SEA etc would counter any morning force EU could field and then as Sea moves into prime they are still holding upgraded and sieged objectives.

Now I’m on NA I didn’t realise just how big the sea presence is, for EUrs think vizunah style 3 guild blobs tearing around at about 1300-1700 GMT+1 hehe.

So EU would dominate for around 6-7 hours, NA servers would dominate the rest. And from what I’ve seen in NA the EU melee blobs would rip NA blobs to shreds hehe

Tom Gore.4035:

Being from Piken I can tell you that we’re much higher on the ranking than our WvW population would suggest. We can put up a sizeable and well-led force on prime time, but outside of that we are lucky to have one commander across all four maps. It’s very evident this week when we’re facing two servers with a very high WvW population.

Aye, this has always been the case. Piken has been the smallest high tier server and I believe it reached #2 spot in its glory days. Very skilled and strong guilds with excellent commanders back then. Seen so many leave since, unfortunetly. Its a shadow of what it was.

I think Deso is known by the server’s strong PvE population. It is a good thing I note you. They are uplevelled and they are badly build but they are wvw-players. And we have some really strong guilds and also some very talented commanders. Our uplevelled-supported zergs are far from an SFR organised blob… But our pve/wvw community is strong. We encourage players to get into wvw and learn from there. No elitism.

@Ins: That’s not true… In a world where time zones doesn’t exist and the sun sets and rises in the same time and all server has -let it be US or Eu – has the same population…

I think you would find a fair enemy in most of the EU’s servers… If our prime-time was the same… Hell you would even run

Ins.7139:

NA would destroy EU servers through purely coverage. EU would dominate EU prime but then NA would take control of the night and build offense wp’s. As NA log off the early log ones from SEA etc would counter any morning force EU could field and then as Sea moves into prime they are still holding upgraded and sieged objectives.

Now I’m on NA I didn’t realise just how big the sea presence is, for EUrs think vizunah style 3 guild blobs tearing around at about 1300-1700 GMT+1 hehe.

So EU would dominate for around 6-7 hours, NA servers would dominate the rest. And from what I’ve seen in NA the EU melee blobs would rip NA blobs to shreds hehe

That’s the point, coverage is what places a server on top in the rankings, not skill.

It’s one thing for a server to log in at 5pm, recapture all their towers, then spend time upgrading them to T3 towers.
It’s another thing to log in at 5pm and taking over from the morning shift with all towers being T3 already.
The latter has a much greater advantage.

I used to run a lot with the EU commanders on Gandara when I was still in living in Europe but have gone to OCX due to work and my latency makes wvw pretty much impossible. EU commanders are a blood thirsty lot. During the height of S2, there were sufficient numbers of skilled commanders to have both a point capping zerg and a zerg hunting zerg, on each map. There were some guilds that came over from AG and I distinctly remember one commander who only capped SMC to turn it into a big trap. Many a night would we be inside wiping zerg after zerg that came in. We didn’t even want SMC, we just wanted the enemy zergs to come in.

The fighting was glorious. So were the loot bags.

Azrael.4960:

I used to run a lot with the EU commanders on Gandara when I was still in living in Europe but have gone to OCX due to work and my latency makes wvw pretty much impossible. EU commanders are a blood thirsty lot. During the height of S2, there were sufficient numbers of skilled commanders to have both a point capping zerg and a zerg hunting zerg, on each map. There were some guilds that came over from AG and I distinctly remember one commander who only capped SMC to turn it into a big trap. Many a night would we be inside wiping zerg after zerg that came in. We didn’t even want SMC, we just wanted the enemy zergs to come in.

The fighting was glorious. So were the loot bags.

Good old times. We did same in SFR alot. But now its new generation on WvW raid guild to karma train in EoTm and running away from fights when they have more ppl and if they loose they go plaim you for cheating.

What will Expanson bring. Crybabys who will go reprt you went you kill them on battle and promise that there mommys will hack your accounts.

xGraver.4918:

Azrael.4960:

I used to run a lot with the EU commanders on Gandara when I was still in living in Europe but have gone to OCX due to work and my latency makes wvw pretty much impossible. EU commanders are a blood thirsty lot. During the height of S2, there were sufficient numbers of skilled commanders to have both a point capping zerg and a zerg hunting zerg, on each map. There were some guilds that came over from AG and I distinctly remember one commander who only capped SMC to turn it into a big trap. Many a night would we be inside wiping zerg after zerg that came in. We didn’t even want SMC, we just wanted the enemy zergs to come in.

The fighting was glorious. So were the loot bags.

Good old times. We did same in SFR alot. But now its new generation on WvW raid guild to karma train in EoTm and running away from fights when they have more ppl and if they loose they go plaim you for cheating.

What will Expanson bring. Crybabys who will go reprt you went you kill them on battle and promise that there mommys will hack your accounts.

I’d say just slaughter em all and let the lost gods sort them out.

BB is not a top server, they rely on nightcapping(EU time) only. AFAIK other servers in the top 10 all have nightcapping, but do not rely on it like BB does.

Lets not turn this into a pointless and subjective kitten about who is better than who.

All Fuzzion wanted to know is the top servers, or which servers are most likely going to be in Gold League for S4 data collection. That’s it. Put your rulers away and get over yourselves.