Guild Wars 2

I have a few members in my guild whining about how unless you get some point like an enemy garrison in their home borderlands right off the bat; claiming it to get the vistas and points for world completion are neigh impossible and you just have to wait until your that color.

Granted a lot of these complaints aren’t from heavy WvW players so common rebuttals don’t always apply. The core issue, as far as I can tell though, isn’t that ANet has players who don’t want to do WvW being forced to go in to get completion. Its that we’re getting to the point where servers will spend weeks in the same tier and ‘rank’ meaning the same color.

So what is the value of colors other then to denote rank? For those who don’t know currently in your setup Green is projected as the best ranked server, red the worst, and blue in the middle. For the Borderlands the map is the exact same (don’t me started on the fact WvW has only effectively TWO maps) yet your expected to explore all the points of each borderlands.

Are the points in Eternal Battlegrounds that skewed to give Red an advantage in their natural and Green a disadvantage? More often in matches I see Green owning all their natural and often Quentin Lake. Then blue and green are both picking apart red territory.
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OK YOU MADE YOUR POINT, WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?

Would the player base have an issue if we just rotated colors every week?
The rankings could still be found on 3rd party sites that run the Glicko numbers and players who weren’t aware of the rankings wouldn’t directly know who was the top server of the week.

This would also greatly reduce the whining of the PvE players who are just trying to get world completion because they have a much more acceptable time frame for getting completion.

• From -> You’ll get the garrison when we are that rank WHENEVER THAT IS
• To -> Worst case time is 2 weeks away but we may claim the point sooner then that

First place of previous week is always green. Then blue second, and red third.

Thurbleton.5841:

For those who don’t know currently in your setup Green is projected as the best ranked server, red the worst, and blue in the middle. For the Borderlands the map is the exact same

Thanks for reading the post as a whole, I already know what the colors currently mean.

I use the word projected because in the meta of free server transfers the ‘3rd place server’ could have a few hundred more players boosting their server

While I don’t agree with Anets decision to put so much PvE distractions into WvW, given that there is map completion in WvW it only makes sense that you have to do WvW to get the POIs/vistas.

They can help their server gain a rank or two then get their POI’s and vistas. It’s okay though, we can haul and operate their siege equipment to take towers and keeps and polish off their shiny Ascended gear if it get’s scuffed.

Arcadio.6875:

While I don’t agree with Anets decision to put so much PvE distractions into WvW, given that there is map completion in WvW it only makes sense that you have to do WvW to get the POIs/vistas.

That makes sense to a point. If we agree the three pillars of GW2 are SPvP, PvE, and WvW then why does ANet put focus on PvE → WvW? Also after spending so much time doing PvE with a ‘choose what you want to do’ design (events are supposed to be the meat of the PvE experience) they say you HAVE to do this as well to get world completion?

And also the argument isn’t per say that completion shouldn’t be required for WvW. Its that I hear stories of people who transfer away from their server for a week to join one that owns the entire map in WvW just for completion.

Hooray this is an option for completionists to bypass but the fact people are doing this shows the PvE playerbase has issue with being forced to do WvW. Does the WvW community have an issue with this ‘simple’ fix?

Also don’t forget if we rotate maps 3rd placed servers wont constantly be as red and can try defending from other naturals putting the focus of the map fight somewhere other then redland.

kash.9213:

polish off their shiny Ascended gear if it get’s scuffed.

The first few Ascended items are from fractals but WvW will be getting some too which will make PvE’rs rage at being forced to PvP for PvE gear. And again I’m seeing folks transfer or bandwagoning (only show up when we’re winning) rather then get into WvW gameplay.

So pve player r being forced to do wvw which is fine with me. If I wanna get gold with out spending really money I have to do pve so they can just deal

And on the color issue yes it does matter. Blue and red can both treb sm while being out of treb range from sm. Green water gate is easiest to get to then red then blue is hardest. Red has most defendable keep then I say blue then green. So red and blue have advantages over green.