Guild Wars 2

I’ve noticed on the rankings maguma is the only server that is drastically not gaining points http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups . Im just wondering are they losing on purpose? Have guilds left, if so why? Please can someone explain because im so confused in SoS wondering whats going on.

2 of mags guilds been bought by borlis pass. The fight guilds quit playing cause sos have 0 guilds and FA is a pug server. Since mag never cared for ppt(which is their downfall now), they never gained anyone to keep themselves in t2. Mag prob can’t even survive in t5 now.

SoS have Bears/Lions/Rz/HOPE/OvO and a few other guilds. What do you mean by they have no guilds? I understand everything u said besides the no guilds because i see guilds in WvW running around.

And most. Of what you said are ocx guilds that pvd. Against 0 resistance.
HOPE is Na so they get fights from FA if they decide to show up, not mag anymore

Buffy.9246:

And most. Of what you said are ocx guilds that pvd. Against 0 resistance.
HOPE is Na so they get fights from FA if they decide to show up, not mag anymore

What does OCX, PvD and 0 resistance mean? sorry i don’t know what these mean.

WvW tournament is coming, time for the “great” servers to show what they dont have so that they can get to a lower tier, to then claim they are great at coming first in the lower tier again!

Ocx is oceanic time. Pvd = player vs door.
And by 0 resistance I mean FA/mag have no one on at this time so sos just karma trains.

Pinkamena Diane Pie.8054:

WvW tournament is coming, time for the “great” servers to show what they dont have so that they can get to a lower tier, to then claim they are great at coming first in the lower tier again!

that doesnt answer anything =.=

He means servers might try to tank and lose on purpose just to win some shiny weapons later and be undefeated.

Mag isn’t tanking.. It’s just imploding because nobody plays on the server anymore.

Actually some of mag are starting to play Archeage.

because they talk too much kitten and ran out of excuses.

I think what’s happening to Maguuma is what happened to Black Gate. They were so good, that other servers started to double team them into oblivion.

It’s not in Maguuma’s nature to tank before a WvW tournament and have previously fought tooth and nail to be in Gold. I think many on Maguuma have just had enough and the numbers have dropped off significantly since the huge announcement of pretty coloured commander tags and new trap. The inattention to this aspect of the game with each patch was bound to increase the attrition levels on many servers, some worse than others. I’m not sure if many have transferred or simply quit to find newer, better, more fun pastures.

I find it completely mind boggling that in an effort to keep the WvW community happy, ANET just throw in another WvW tournament and a couple of tiny and insignificant features rather than anything of substance. Oh well, it is what it is, hopefully some will return for the tournament, but I shall not hold my breath.

Ahem. To ANet:

Considering that WvW quite possibly represents the tightest-knit guild communities in GW2, you should be rushing to amend the current stale situation that’s causing dozens of guilds and players to disband every month. WvW is bleeding players and you do little but a few cosmetic changes.

If you release some extra content with the seasons that truly creates significant changes, I’ll eat my words. Until then, get your kitten together ANet.

If WvW becomes a ghost town, you’ll be catering to the vain, mindless, unorganized masses of PvE, i.e. casuals. Except for a few hundred hardcore PvPers (between NA/EU), the bulk of your most active players are found in WvW.

Don’t let the prophecies of ded gaem come true. You’re only aloft with activity due to the failures of other MMOs (ESO, Wildstar, soon-to-be ArcheAge) rather than the successes of GW2.

Smooth Penguin.5294:

I think what’s happening to Maguuma is what happened to Black Gate. They were so good, that other servers started to double team them into oblivion.

I see the tears. But my bucket is full

Well there’s what I said before, but then there’s also the “feature” pack.

WvW is only getting 2 things added, golem mastery and the antisiege siege.
2 years and WvW still has not received any content updates, but these minor things.
So yes as we all thought, seeing as WvW has still not received a content update, people are now leaving the game.

We have waited for anet for long enough, and now there are others games out there which we can better spend our time and money on. So why should these people stay on GW2 when it’s so stale with a lack of content and changes.

We all knew this was gonna happen, we’ve been warning anet since launch! But as usual they refused to listen, and what’s happening is happening. People are spending less time in GW2 and slowly moving elsewhere.

The next 2 weeks of the feature pack do not sound like they will brings much to WvW either! So dont hold your hopes that there will be something hiding in there!

What’s funny is, to wvwers gw2 is dead. But to pvers it’s the best ge ever, every content rocks (even though it’s all boring as heck).

Check out pve threads…see a different attitude. Prob why Anet caters to them.

The problem with Mag is the same thing that happened to FA.

In T2 for some time now you’ve had one server that’s basically T1.5(SoS now and TC before) who are just waiting for the next T1 server to implode.

The other two servers are/were full of guilds/players that are serious about fights, because they realize they don’t have and never will have the coverage to beat the T1.5 server. These players have been waiting for WvW to evolve from a coverage/population meta into a skill meta, or even GvG, but all we’ve been getting are minor changes and tournaments that continue to reward stacking over skill.

At some point these players lose faith that the game will become what they hope it can be and either take a break, move to find a happy place, or just leave the game.

brandon.6735:

Actually some of mag are starting to play Archeage.

Thats not surprising tbh. Mag has always been more of a fights server than a ppt server. They are unsurprisingly losing interest in guild wars 2 wvw, especially with the upcoming tournament.

SkylightMoon.2098:

brandon.6735:

Actually some of mag are starting to play Archeage.

Thats not surprising tbh. Mag has always been more of a fights server than a ppt server. They are unsurprisingly losing interest in guild wars 2 wvw, especially with the upcoming tournament.

I have seen a lot of the guilds from GW2 now in archeage, so its not just Mag that is going to be tanking.

Maguuma lost 4 guilds to BP, 1 to JQ, and I think 3 to TC (or was it 2?), and a couple to ArcheAge. All that is left in Maguuma is about 2 or 3 guilds, and they are not playing WvW currently.

I went in yesterday to see what was going on before I too left Mag, and it was just pugs. Yes it imploded, but it was a combination of things that caused it. The tag teaming from SoS and FA finished it and made the last few guilds wave their white flag and leave.

Sure was fun while it lasted.

so what Mag guilds went where ? any1 know?

Skosh.1483:

so what Mag guilds went where ? any1 know?

BUS, WaR, CTH, GFC (and I think one other) went to BP. I think Ark went to JQ (but that might just be a rumor), SiX went to TC (renamed to something else) and I think GLOB has also joined them. From what I understand, VR has gone to ArcheAge.

Kitiara.2706:

The tag teaming from SoS and FA finished it and made the last few guilds wave their white flag and leave.

Please don’t turn this into a match thread. BUS and WaR spent a lot of time focusing on FABL the past two matches and FA would have to consistently pull forces off SoSBL and EBG to deal with them.

Mag just didn’t have the staying power.

No vigor. Probably all the neckbeards.

maybe its time for free transfer to magumma and other servers, mmmm? listening? of course not

Wonder why all these pro players who wanted fight stacked in same server?

Ark did not come to JQ. Not even sure where that rumor came from.

T2 guilds do seem to be moving to T1 for fights/gvg, but there are still not even as many people up here as you would expect.

zhonnika.1784:

Ark did not come to JQ. Not even sure where that rumor came from.

T2 guilds do seem to be moving to T1 for fights/gvg, but there are still not even as many people up here as you would expect.

Wait till the tournament.

Doesn’t ArchAge release about midway through the next proposed WvW Season?

Or is that the last beta at that time?

(Admits to not being on top of that one.) That would impact more than just Maguuma.

zhonnika.1784:

Ark did not come to JQ. Not even sure where that rumor came from.

T2 guilds do seem to be moving to T1 for fights/gvg, but there are still not even as many people up here as you would expect.

Ahhh thanks. I will make sure those I know do not continue to spread that.

not caring for PPT is the downfall for any server. same thing happened to SoR. history repeats itself if people never learn. servers need both ppt huggers and zergbuster.

For all those guilds going to archeage. You will be back. Ive tried it. Coming from guild wars 2 you will never get used to the unoriginal combat system that game has to add. It has a ton of cool systems in it but I don’t feel taht even as a whole, with the roleplaying, pirates, getting married, that the game can replace the epic feels we had in WvW.

For a server that has been locked into a 3rd place match for most of this year and has been T3 or higher for over a year, I wouldn’t call Mag out for tanking anything. Guilds became tired of the game/matchup and moved on either to other servers or other games.

The question now is how long must the server endure ridiculously lopsided matchups?

Mag has just lost too many players. People smelt the blood in the water and evacuated. If you go into WvW or Edge now it’s either a ghost town or people are just getting steamrolled at every corner. It is to the point now where there is no effort. Sad to say but I will also be leaving. GL Mag.

Hey Anet can you just forcibly move Mag down to Bronze so it doesn’t mess up our Silver League?

And then just let Gold League be 5 servers.

I just came back from a hiatus and am probably leaving Mag as well. Sad to say, but I went and roamed WvW for a few hours, only saw 2-3 commanders over the course of that. Mag’s WvW is dead, and I dont see it returning.

A lotta people on Mag really enjoyed WvW, and knowing that even they got fed up with the things that ANet calls “content” really worries me…

I remember Mag stemrolling BP back in the time when I was there because of their superior coverage, so I never really liked that server. =P

Nice to hear that it’s getting steamrolled now. Not cool when it’s not u doing the stomps because of coverage, is it? ^^

kingbread.6174:

maybe its time for free transfer to magumma and other servers, mmmm? listening? of course not

The only way Anet really makes any money off a wvw player is through player transfer. Anet doesn’t care about server balance. They see all this crying and moving as dollar signs. The more transfers, the better.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/38

Staleness is the biggest killer…Basically the same matchup for 6 months, swapping a DB for an FA here and there, even in leagues it was pretty stale.

Once the GvG’s started to die off, guilds from Mag started to die off a little. Meanwhile some of the more notable gvg guilds from FA/SoS left T2 or disbanded; Those two things sorta snowballed a bit and got the ball rolling for us to drop outta t2.

Mag is not really a ppt or a pugmander server(probably has the fewest tags running of any server I have been on) for the most part, so without the “carrot” of gvg’s there was really no reason to try and stay in T2.

Mag ppt’ed it’s kitten off twice to get into gold, knowing it would get stomped on the scoreboard but they wanted the fights/gvg’s. This time around there is no incentive to really go that route. I think Mag will end up either in T3 or bouncing between it and T4. Don’t be fooled, there are some people still here, but a lot are playing AA and the rest are not in tryhard mode at all.

King Amadaeus.8619:

I think Mag will end up either in T3 or bouncing between it and T4. Don’t be fooled, there are some people still here, but a lot are playing AA and the rest are not in tryhard mode at all.

That’s good to hear. I was worried you all would be too weak for T3 or T4. Shouldda know the “sky is falling” was exaggerated somewhat.

Honestly after my season as the evil defense commander for frostkeep I went back to my earlier , cruel mistress… soloQ ! With friends to do some tpvp once in a while, i’ve seriously been having a blast and i’m now 1 rank away from dragon baby!

As for guild drama and bought guilds and such …. honestly megaserver did more to kill community feeling than anything else in the game. There’s also other factors, but yeah, 2 years down the road WvW hasn’t evolved that much. I think the tacticals from eotm ( with chokes and stuff) are the best " grand ideas" they came out with, but unless they " evolve" somewhat the regular borderlands and eternal, and fix all the niggling things people have been complaining about for … now.. years…WvW as a game mode will keep going down .

Something is gonna have to give.

SkylightMoon.2098:

For all those guilds going to archeage. You will be back. Ive tried it. Coming from guild wars 2 you will never get used to the unoriginal combat system that game has to add. It has a ton of cool systems in it but I don’t feel taht even as a whole, with the roleplaying, pirates, getting married, that the game can replace the epic feels we had in WvW.

The lack of a simple “invert y-axis” mouse option killed any chance of me playing that game.

King Amadaeus.8619:

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/38

Staleness is the biggest killer…Basically the same matchup for 6 months, swapping a DB for an FA here and there, even in leagues it was pretty stale.

Once the GvG’s started to die off, guilds from Mag started to die off a little. Meanwhile some of the more notable gvg guilds from FA/SoS left T2 or disbanded; Those two things sorta snowballed a bit and got the ball rolling for us to drop outta t2.

Mag is not really a ppt or a pugmander server(probably has the fewest tags running of any server I have been on) for the most part, so without the “carrot” of gvg’s there was really no reason to try and stay in T2.

Mag ppt’ed it’s kitten off twice to get into gold, knowing it would get stomped on the scoreboard but they wanted the fights/gvg’s. This time around there is no incentive to really go that route. I think Mag will end up either in T3 or bouncing between it and T4. Don’t be fooled, there are some people still here, but a lot are playing AA and the rest are not in tryhard mode at all.

According to the guilds that left it was due to the elitist attitudes of the gvg guilds, getting ridiculed for playing wvw as intended by anet, doing the bulk of the hard work to keep the server in T2 with little to no support from the other half of the server.

From the looks of it there seemed to be two different communities of players within Maguuma and both didn’t play with each other which is a recipe for implosion. Exact same thing happened to SoR.

This is why ppt is part of the game. Any server who says “we play for fights” like Sor and mag did. Well Sor is in t8 and mag will soon join.

Kaga.7629:

..With friends to do some tpvp once in a while, i’ve seriously been having a blast and i’m now 1 rank away from dragon baby!
..

Kaga, an old friend from GW1 wishing you a fun time in tpvp.
So glad to see you here.

i think Mag public Mumble is gone too.

Saiyr said Mag mumble and forums will stay up, he has no expectation of closing them any time soon. I’m not so sure T3 or T4 is going to work because we have almost no consistent militia commanders, just a few that can get on and help out at various times. Unless/until we get a couple of consistent militia commanders we are reliant on the 2 or 3 guilds that remain.

Truearrow.3527:

Unless/until we get a couple of consistent militia commanders we are reliant on the 2 or 3 guilds that remain.

I have only been on Mag for a few months but I LOVED the fact that nobody was up in players grills about getting on the tag all the time. Nobody cared if a player wanted to skirmish, roam or pile into a blob. Guess this is the downside.