Guild Wars 2

Dead means gone forever. If game was DEAD nobody would be playing it.

LOL at t1 guy saying solo players in an MMO should go play single player RPG games..

Might have been the funniest thing I’ve read on these forums coming from a zergling..

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

Massively multiplayer games are for massively multiplayer combat ( GW2 is a MMORPG). IF people want to play solo , that is what Single player rpgs are for. This IS a massively multiplayer game so you should expect it to be.

Empty games = dead games. Yes, you may like dead games, but that isn’t how a company stays in business.

How about you stick to your T1 server and be happy to have a 24/7 coverage while you leave the rest of us to play our wvw?
(One of the reasons I’ve never been to a gold server – they seem like tiny bubbles to me).

Edit: Oh and btw: I tried to explain to you that all EU servers (except maybe T1) don’t have a 24/7 coverage. And can’t have.

The players not onT1 were the ones complaining about being on dead servers. That is why they locked T1 servers. So if they were so happy playing a dead game, they would not have been complaining and it would not be affecting players on kitten be able to play with their friends and family. As it is now, for me to be able to play with my sister, I would have to make an alt account on a low tier server. So how about you allow the * rest of the players* who do not wish to play on a dead server not play on a dead server then instead of trying to punish servers for being better than others?

briggah.7910:

Dead means gone forever. If game was DEAD nobody would be playing it.

LOL at t1 guy saying solo players in an MMO should go play single player RPG games..

Might have been the funniest thing I’ve read on these forums coming from a zergling..

It is dead for those who can only play during non peak hours. I Logged in on DR at times when there was not a single other person on the map, no allies OR enemies. I solo’d BP’s keep and that was as lame as it could get. YUP dead was right. Playing wvw is not just about " zerging" it is about offense, strategy and defense. Zergs serve their purpose as well as havoc and roamers, the only thing that has no purpose in a MMORPG is not wanting to play with allies or enemies. Roamers properly filling their role on a server are coordinating WITH their team, if they have no team to coordinate with they are on a dead server.

The very first thing I did when I came to JQ was run over to QL and solo it from BG DURING NA prime. BG and JQ were fighting at Bravost and were distracted. I killed the one guy defending QL by pulling him off his AC and took it from him. Trying to say " You cannot roam because there are enemies on the map" is nonsense. You just have to know how to play the game. If there are no enemies or allies, you are not roaming you are playing PVE on a dead map.

So what are the dead servers then? Please tell me since you are the almighty T1 know it all for every server out there. I’m sure when you call servers dead others will chime in and tell you that you should just stick to T1 cause you have no clue what you are talking about..

Pat yourself on the back for solo’ing a tower in T1 during prime time.. All that shows me is T1 zergs and nothing else if they can’t stop a solo roamer capping a tower during prime time. I’m sure the guy you pulled out of the tower made a map call out but no one came to stop you since they were zerging it up somewhere else..

briggah.7910:

So what are the dead servers then? Please tell me since you are the almighty T1 know it all for every server out there. I’m sure when you call servers dead others will chime in and tell you that you should just stick to T1 cause you have no clue what you are talking about..

Pat yourself on the back for solo’ing a tower in T1 during prime time.. All that shows me is T1 zergs and nothing else if they can’t stop a solo roamer capping a tower during prime time. I’m sure the guy you pulled out of the tower made a map call out but no one came to stop you since they were zerging it up somewhere else..

I solo’s BP EBG Green keep while playing on DR. That is what you call dead. ANY server that does not have 24/7 coverage is dysfunctional because they are playing coverage wars rather than actually fighting. Again though, I do not see keeping servers as being the better solution at all at this point since there are so few that even have 24/7 coverage. They killed servers when they went mega server, leaving wvw as the only thing in game that is left that is server based. Removing server based wvw would be the best solution, as that way players and guild can play with different players and against different players every match if they so choose. My (2) option is the better option and is the only option that allows mega server guilds to play wvw together as well.

Keeping servers at all will only ensure staleness in the end and is only postponing the inevitable.

( EDIT:YES, his zerg and our zerg and at the time Even TC zerg were fighting 3 way at Bravost with TC fighting our zerg from the back from umber and BG zerg in the front fighting under siege from their keep. Proper roaming means to coordinate attacks strategically with what is going on on multiple maps by multiple servers and choosing targets accordingly. Not just run around and kill stuffs) lol

lil devils x.6071:

The players not onT1 were the ones complaining about being on dead servers. That is why they locked T1 servers. So if they were so happy playing a dead game, they would not have been complaining and it would not be affecting players on kitten be able to play with their friends and family. As it is now, for me to be able to play with my sister, I would have to make an alt account on a low tier server. So how about you allow the * rest of the players* who do not wish to play on a dead server not play on a dead server then instead of trying to punish servers for being better than others?

I have deliberately never been to T1, whether NA nor EU (fourth server I’m on) – it wasn’t me complaining, it was some T9 (EU) players who complained. I’m somwhere T5 and fine with how things are.
But nonetheless something had to be done – if you look atthe NA standings it looks as if everybody moved to the top 8 servers and that was it. 1800 gems is quite a lot and I think most if not all NA servers have been classified as “very high” before this change. So, if I have to pay 1800 gems anyway, to which server do I want to go? To a lower tier which is probably about to die, or to as high as possible? If I have to pay 500 gems, I might give the lower tier a shot – unless there’s a risk that the other server I would transfer to might be locked sometimes in the future – we don’t know yet how long servers will be locked – I read something about active population, so if your wvw has got enough active members to produce queues “24/7” then your server will stay locked. And rightfully so as hanging around in a queue is not playing and you just educated me about “not being able to play”.
You’re free to transfer – it just became a lot cheaper. And btw: Your and other servers have been locked for quite a while, they were open for a few mins a day max.
Give a lower Tier server a shot, or let your sister play on a different server. My best friend and I met one the same server but I transferred soon after, twice actually, we’re happy on our servers and even play together as opponents this week – which is fun – lots of duels and he’s making friends from my server

Get out of your bubble and learn that there is more to wvw than you think, just like the people from “dead servers” who think there’s nothing they can do.

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

So what are the dead servers then? Please tell me since you are the almighty T1 know it all for every server out there. I’m sure when you call servers dead others will chime in and tell you that you should just stick to T1 cause you have no clue what you are talking about..

Pat yourself on the back for solo’ing a tower in T1 during prime time.. All that shows me is T1 zergs and nothing else if they can’t stop a solo roamer capping a tower during prime time. I’m sure the guy you pulled out of the tower made a map call out but no one came to stop you since they were zerging it up somewhere else..

I solo’s BP EBG Green keep while playing on DR. That is what you call dead. ANY server that does not have 24/7 coverage is dysfunctional because they are playing coverage wars rather than actually fighting. Again though, I do not see keeping servers as being the better solution at all at this point since there are so few that even have 24/7 coverage. They killed servers when they went mega server, leaving wvw as the only thing in game that is left that is server based. Removing server based wvw would be the best solution, as that way players and guild can play with different players and against different players every match if they so choose. My (2) option is the better option and is the only option that allows mega server guilds to play wvw together as well.

Keeping servers at all will only ensure staleness in the end and is only postponing the inevitable.

If I cared about coverage wars I would have transferred a long time ago. So they killed servers with megaserver and wvw communities are the only communities left in this game but you want them killed as well it seems.

lil devils x.6071:

( EDIT:YES, his zerg and our zerg and at the time Even TC zerg were fighting 3 way at Bravost with TC fighting our zerg from the back from umber and BG zerg in the front fighting under siege from their keep. Proper roaming means to coordinate attacks strategically with what is going on on multiple maps by multiple servers and choosing targets accordingly. Not just run around and kill stuffs) lol

Thanks for clearing that up for me.. For a second I thought you might actually have roamers in T1 but now I see they are zerglings in disguise that just roam next to another zerg..

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

So what are the dead servers then? Please tell me since you are the almighty T1 know it all for every server out there. I’m sure when you call servers dead others will chime in and tell you that you should just stick to T1 cause you have no clue what you are talking about..

Pat yourself on the back for solo’ing a tower in T1 during prime time.. All that shows me is T1 zergs and nothing else if they can’t stop a solo roamer capping a tower during prime time. I’m sure the guy you pulled out of the tower made a map call out but no one came to stop you since they were zerging it up somewhere else..

I solo’s BP EBG Green keep while playing on DR. That is what you call dead. ANY server that does not have 24/7 coverage is dysfunctional because they are playing coverage wars rather than actually fighting. Again though, I do not see keeping servers as being the better solution at all at this point since there are so few that even have 24/7 coverage. They killed servers when they went mega server, leaving wvw as the only thing in game that is left that is server based. Removing server based wvw would be the best solution, as that way players and guild can play with different players and against different players every match if they so choose. My (2) option is the better option and is the only option that allows mega server guilds to play wvw together as well.

Keeping servers at all will only ensure staleness in the end and is only postponing the inevitable.

If I cared about coverage wars I would have transferred a long time ago. So they killed servers with megaserver and wvw communities are the only communities left in this game but you want them killed as well it seems.

Anet made the choice to kill them when they went mega server, they were already killed, this is just their death throws now. LOL

Depending on the server:
We have players logging in with no one to play with or against.
We have players logging in and sitting in ques the entire time they have to play not being able to play at all.
We have players that are being face rolled by massively uneven matches.
We have players bored face rolling their enemies due to massively uneven matches.
We have players that always get to win.
We have players that have no hope of ever winning.
We have players who fight against the same players every week.
We have players who are unable to play with friends or family.
We have players who cannot play with their guild.

ALL of these things are caused by the broken system, and unless a system resolves them all, the system is not functioning properly. Everyone paid to play this game, everyone deserves to be able to have an opportunity to enjoy it.

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

( EDIT:YES, his zerg and our zerg and at the time Even TC zerg were fighting 3 way at Bravost with TC fighting our zerg from the back from umber and BG zerg in the front fighting under siege from their keep. Proper roaming means to coordinate attacks strategically with what is going on on multiple maps by multiple servers and choosing targets accordingly. Not just run around and kill stuffs) lol

Thanks for clearing that up for me.. For a second I thought you might actually have roamers in T1 but now I see they are zerglings in disguise that just roam next to another zerg..

Being a smart roamer paying attention to what is happening in the game and not mindlessly running around and " kills stuffs’ does not mean they are zerging and not roaming. LOL

Good roamers actually have enemies to fight and run the risk of being face rolled by a mob otherwise they are just PVE’ers on a dead server.

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

So what are the dead servers then? Please tell me since you are the almighty T1 know it all for every server out there. I’m sure when you call servers dead others will chime in and tell you that you should just stick to T1 cause you have no clue what you are talking about..

Pat yourself on the back for solo’ing a tower in T1 during prime time.. All that shows me is T1 zergs and nothing else if they can’t stop a solo roamer capping a tower during prime time. I’m sure the guy you pulled out of the tower made a map call out but no one came to stop you since they were zerging it up somewhere else..

I solo’s BP EBG Green keep while playing on DR. That is what you call dead. ANY server that does not have 24/7 coverage is dysfunctional because they are playing coverage wars rather than actually fighting. Again though, I do not see keeping servers as being the better solution at all at this point since there are so few that even have 24/7 coverage. They killed servers when they went mega server, leaving wvw as the only thing in game that is left that is server based. Removing server based wvw would be the best solution, as that way players and guild can play with different players and against different players every match if they so choose. My (2) option is the better option and is the only option that allows mega server guilds to play wvw together as well.

Keeping servers at all will only ensure staleness in the end and is only postponing the inevitable.

If I cared about coverage wars I would have transferred a long time ago. So they killed servers with megaserver and wvw communities are the only communities left in this game but you want them killed as well it seems.

Anet made the choice to kill them when they went mega server, they were already killed, this is just their death throws now. LOL

Depending on the server:
We have players logging in with no one to play with or against.
We have players logging in and sitting in ques the entire time they have to play not being able to play at all.
We have players that are being face rolled by massively uneven matches.
We have players that always get to win.
We have players that have no hope of every winning.
We have players who fight against the same players every week.
We have players who are unable to play with friends or family.
We have players who cannot play with their guild.

ALL of these things are caused by the broken system, and unless a system resolves them all, the system is not functioning properly. Everyone paid to play this game, everyone deserves to be able to have an opportunity to enjoy it.

So anet caused the problem? Seems more the people that transferred off the servers caused the problems for those that didn’t want to transfer. If its so bad and dead as some claim go farm some gold and transfer to a new server and see if it is any better.

lil devils x.6071:

Good roamers actually have enemies to fight and run the risk of being face rolled by a mob otherwise they are just PVE’ers on a dead server.

Typical T1 zergling comment right there..

lil devils x.6071:

Being a smart roamer paying attention to what is happening in the game and not mindlessly running around and " kills stuffs’ does not mean they are zerging and not roaming. LOL

Yet no roamers came to stop you solo’ing a tower during prime time in T1? Please.. Only shows me you have more people zerging then anything..

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Good roamers actually have enemies to fight and run the risk of being face rolled by a mob otherwise they are just PVE’ers on a dead server.

Typical T1 zergling comment right there..

To clear that up: Lil has been on DR which is now at the bottom of NA and then transferred to JQ – The question is: Why did he/her tell us first that he/she soloed a keep on the lower tier server and then a tower from a gold server.. I’m a bit confused here (what has that to do with anything?), and I do wonder why I’m classified as a bad roamer – just because I’m on a lower tier? Who told you I don’t find anyone to fight or that I don’t fight anyone?
It’s pretty hard alone against 5 and that was the case during my 6 hours capping trip – and that has been my second week roaming before that I was a zergling.

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

So what are the dead servers then? Please tell me since you are the almighty T1 know it all for every server out there. I’m sure when you call servers dead others will chime in and tell you that you should just stick to T1 cause you have no clue what you are talking about..

Pat yourself on the back for solo’ing a tower in T1 during prime time.. All that shows me is T1 zergs and nothing else if they can’t stop a solo roamer capping a tower during prime time. I’m sure the guy you pulled out of the tower made a map call out but no one came to stop you since they were zerging it up somewhere else..

I solo’s BP EBG Green keep while playing on DR. That is what you call dead. ANY server that does not have 24/7 coverage is dysfunctional because they are playing coverage wars rather than actually fighting. Again though, I do not see keeping servers as being the better solution at all at this point since there are so few that even have 24/7 coverage. They killed servers when they went mega server, leaving wvw as the only thing in game that is left that is server based. Removing server based wvw would be the best solution, as that way players and guild can play with different players and against different players every match if they so choose. My (2) option is the better option and is the only option that allows mega server guilds to play wvw together as well.

Keeping servers at all will only ensure staleness in the end and is only postponing the inevitable.

If I cared about coverage wars I would have transferred a long time ago. So they killed servers with megaserver and wvw communities are the only communities left in this game but you want them killed as well it seems.

Anet made the choice to kill them when they went mega server, they were already killed, this is just their death throws now. LOL

Depending on the server:
We have players logging in with no one to play with or against.
We have players logging in and sitting in ques the entire time they have to play not being able to play at all.
We have players that are being face rolled by massively uneven matches.
We have players that always get to win.
We have players that have no hope of every winning.
We have players who fight against the same players every week.
We have players who are unable to play with friends or family.
We have players who cannot play with their guild.

ALL of these things are caused by the broken system, and unless a system resolves them all, the system is not functioning properly. Everyone paid to play this game, everyone deserves to be able to have an opportunity to enjoy it.

So anet caused the problem? Seems more the people that transferred off the servers caused the problems for those that didn’t want to transfer. If its so bad and dead as some claim go farm some gold and transfer to a new server and see if it is any better.

Anet caused the problem by the original design allowing for ghost towns , their original design is what was defective prior to the mega server and did not take into account what happens when your population declines. Anyone who has played many MMORPG’s knows that when a game is first released, it has huge populations then drastically declines. If the game did not take this into account, the game can actually die due to players logging in to see an empty world and leaving thinking they missed the boat already and the game is dead. Allowing for empty maps at all is very bad for a games longevity due to what happens when new players come in and see this.

It adds insult to injury due to Anets recommended server system recommending new players go to empty servers, so players come in and take Anets advice as this being the best server for them, only to get there and find no one to play with, THEN being told after taking Anet’s recommendation they have to pay money to leave it. Many just quit the game right there kittened off, and who can blame them?

This is not good at all for the games longevity. Not only are new players never getting a chance to see the best that wvw has to offer, they are being charged extra for taking Anet’s advice and then only having options for mediocrity. Some players are not being given a choice in the matter at all, as they already locked the servers that do have people to play with 24/7. They are denying them the option to have people to play with at all due to their decision now making it even worse.

lil devils x.6071:

Different outside of NA? [Kill] Only runs PST and EU atm. We used to run Sea, but never officially ran NA.

Ok, I missed that, so your server doesn’t have a 24/7 coverage as well? Then it needs to be closed!
(Yeah, I’m scratching my head here)

Edit: I think I will just let this conversation go as I honestly have no idea what you’re talking about – you don’t really seem to know either.

Ok: EU is different than NA, because we don’t have people from CAN, AUS or NA on our servers (with a few exceptions), so EU servers are a ghost town at night. My enemies just started their early morning karma train – before that everything stayed like it was for about 4 hours.
If I know that I will be online at night, I sign up for an NA server when I start this game and that was what I did. And I’m free to transfer to an NA server. I don’t think anyone ever expected all 51 (or even any server) servers to have a 24/7 coverage, that’s some insane idea of the players.

lil devils x.6071:

This is not good at all for the games longevity. Not only are new players never getting a chance to see the best that wvw has to offer, they are being charged extra for taking Anet’s advice and then only having options for mediocrity. Some players are not being given a choice in the matter at all, as they already locked the servers that do have people to play with 24/7. They are denying them the option to have people to play with at all due to their decision now making it even worse.

What you claim is the best WvW experience is just your opinion. There are 5 servers right now after the change that are full status. That is all of T1 and 2 T2 servers. So basically your opinion is that if a server is not full it is not the best WvW experience..

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Being a smart roamer paying attention to what is happening in the game and not mindlessly running around and " kills stuffs’ does not mean they are zerging and not roaming. LOL

Yet no roamers came to stop you solo’ing a tower during prime time in T1? Please.. Only shows me you have more people zerging then anything..

They did try to stop me. The guy I pulled off his AC and killed came back and I had killed him a second time before I capped it, as well as another guy came in between. ALSO I didn’t give them much of a chance to keep running back, I didn’t completely down him for a while, I kept him in a downed state and let him almost get back up a few times before accidentally downing him to keep him busy and not let him WP tyvm ( YES Gw2 version of torture.) Roaming in T1 Is much more difficult than other tiers, but it is not undoable.

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Being a smart roamer paying attention to what is happening in the game and not mindlessly running around and " kills stuffs’ does not mean they are zerging and not roaming. LOL

Yet no roamers came to stop you solo’ing a tower during prime time in T1? Please.. Only shows me you have more people zerging then anything..

They did try to stop me. The guy I pulled off his AC and killed came back and I had killed him a second time before I capped it, as well as another guy came in between. ALSO I didn’t give them much of a chance to keep running back, I didn’t completely down him for a while, I kept him in a downed state and let him almost get back up a few times before accidentally downing him to keep him busy and not let him WP tyvm ( YES Gw2 version of torture.) Roaming in T1 Is much more difficult than other tiers, but it is not undoable.

Yea and I do the same thing pretty much on a daily basis on my DEAD server. I don’t really try to solo towers much anymore because I find plenty of fights roaming. Most of those come from taking camps or checking on white swords on the map.

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

This is not good at all for the games longevity. Not only are new players never getting a chance to see the best that wvw has to offer, they are being charged extra for taking Anet’s advice and then only having options for mediocrity. Some players are not being given a choice in the matter at all, as they already locked the servers that do have people to play with 24/7. They are denying them the option to have people to play with at all due to their decision now making it even worse.

What you claim is the best WvW experience is just your opinion. There are 5 servers right now after the change that are full status. That is all of T1 and 2 T2 servers. So basically your opinion is that if a server is not full it is not the best WvW experience..

The reason why the most players play on these servers is because MOST players find having people to play with MORE enjoyable. That is the majority opinion of that being a better experience is WHY the majority of player play there. It isn’t like the majority of player do not have the choice or have not played on lower tiers, they just think that sucks. Most of the players on full servers paid to leave lower servers because they were not having a good experience where they were. If there were no server caps at all, and allowed for more maps to reduce ques, MORE players, not less would move to top tiers as well.

As it is, everyone in higher tiers can move if they want, they choose not to for good reason EVEN if it was free to do so, hell EVEN if they were PAID to do so. LOL

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Being a smart roamer paying attention to what is happening in the game and not mindlessly running around and " kills stuffs’ does not mean they are zerging and not roaming. LOL

Yet no roamers came to stop you solo’ing a tower during prime time in T1? Please.. Only shows me you have more people zerging then anything..

They did try to stop me. The guy I pulled off his AC and killed came back and I had killed him a second time before I capped it, as well as another guy came in between. ALSO I didn’t give them much of a chance to keep running back, I didn’t completely down him for a while, I kept him in a downed state and let him almost get back up a few times before accidentally downing him to keep him busy and not let him WP tyvm ( YES Gw2 version of torture.) Roaming in T1 Is much more difficult than other tiers, but it is not undoable.

Yea and I do the same thing pretty much on a daily basis on my DEAD server. I don’t really try to solo towers much anymore because I find plenty of fights roaming. Most of those come from taking camps or checking on white swords on the map.

You are not really doing the same thing if you are not at risk of being face rolled by an angry mob at any point in time . Avoiding the angry mob and havocs WHILE being effective is part of the challenge roaming on higher tier servers during ANY time of the day or night.

lil devils x.6071:

You are not really doing the same thing if you are not at risk of being face rolled by an angry mob at any point in time . Avoiding the angry mob and havocs WHILE being effective is part of the challenge roaming on higher tier servers during ANY time of the day or night.

Does it really matter whether it’s 5 or 50 who try to stop you soloing a tower?
If it’s 5 non potatos you’ll be dead in a second anyway.

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

This is not good at all for the games longevity. Not only are new players never getting a chance to see the best that wvw has to offer, they are being charged extra for taking Anet’s advice and then only having options for mediocrity. Some players are not being given a choice in the matter at all, as they already locked the servers that do have people to play with 24/7. They are denying them the option to have people to play with at all due to their decision now making it even worse.

What you claim is the best WvW experience is just your opinion. There are 5 servers right now after the change that are full status. That is all of T1 and 2 T2 servers. So basically your opinion is that if a server is not full it is not the best WvW experience..

The reason why the most players play on these servers is because MOST players find having people to play with MORE enjoyable. That is the majority opinion of that being a better experience is WHY the majority of player play there. It isn’t like the majority of player do not have the choice or have not played on lower tiers, they just think that sucks. Most of the players on full servers paid to leave lower servers because they were not having a good experience where they were. If there were no server caps at all, and allowed for more maps to reduce ques, MORE players, not less would move to top tiers as well.

As it is, everyone in higher tiers can move if they want, they choose not to for good reason EVEN if it was free to do so, hell EVEN if they were PAID to do so. LOL

I find it disingenuous that somehow you are able to speak on behalf of the “majority of players”, when all you have are anecdotes and maybe the people you have interacted with and then confusing your opinion with fact. But then again, I think the word “broken” has no meaning on this forum due to overuse.

Do you have information on the various server populations beyond what you have seen in your experience?

Anyhow, some of us like playing “Dead Wars 2”, and given that we’ve had quite a few guilds transfer over this week, I’m guessing they do too, or at least have different priorities.

lil devils x.6071:

As it is, everyone in higher tiers can move if they want, they choose not to for good reason EVEN if it was free to do so, hell EVEN if they were PAID to do so. LOL

Ya that statement is 100% incorrect.. Seeing as there are other threads in these forums of people leaving your FULL servers since the change went into effect. Also hearing a lot of people moving back to some servers that were full and are no longer full. All those players moved up so I guess they are moving back down for a reason too..

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Being a smart roamer paying attention to what is happening in the game and not mindlessly running around and " kills stuffs’ does not mean they are zerging and not roaming. LOL

Yet no roamers came to stop you solo’ing a tower during prime time in T1? Please.. Only shows me you have more people zerging then anything..

They did try to stop me. The guy I pulled off his AC and killed came back and I had killed him a second time before I capped it, as well as another guy came in between. ALSO I didn’t give them much of a chance to keep running back, I didn’t completely down him for a while, I kept him in a downed state and let him almost get back up a few times before accidentally downing him to keep him busy and not let him WP tyvm ( YES Gw2 version of torture.) Roaming in T1 Is much more difficult than other tiers, but it is not undoable.

Yea and I do the same thing pretty much on a daily basis on my DEAD server. I don’t really try to solo towers much anymore because I find plenty of fights roaming. Most of those come from taking camps or checking on white swords on the map.

You are not really doing the same thing if you are not at risk of being face rolled by an angry mob at any point in time . Avoiding the angry mob and havocs WHILE being effective is part of the challenge roaming on higher tier servers during ANY time of the day or night.

I get zerged by mobs each and every day on my DEAD server. Happens more at prime time but you are making it seem like I play with no one since I’m not in T1..

Edit: Also the point you just made is the main point most people prefer to stay in lower tiers.. During off hours we have small fights and roaming fights, zergs every now and then.. During prime time is when all the bigger fights happen but during day we are still protecting our stuff from other small groups and prepping for the big attacks that happen later on. If it was constant 24/7 zergs I’d probably be in PVE as I can’t zerg for hours without getting bored yet I can roam for endless hours..

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

You are not really doing the same thing if you are not at risk of being face rolled by an angry mob at any point in time . Avoiding the angry mob and havocs WHILE being effective is part of the challenge roaming on higher tier servers during ANY time of the day or night.

Does it really matter whether it’s 5 or 50 who try to stop you soloing a tower?
If it’s 5 non potatos you’ll be dead in a second anyway.

LOL! No you do not always lose 1 vs 5. Depends on who the players are.

lil devils x.6071:

Jana.6831:

Does it really matter whether it’s 5 or 50 who try to stop you soloing a tower?
If it’s 5 non potatos you’ll be dead in a second anyway.

LOL! No you do not always lose 1 vs 5. Depends on who the players are.

I already said that
“If It’s 5 non Potatos” and not everybody outside of your servers is a bad player.

And being on a silver tier server doesn’t mean I haven’t played against gold tier servers.

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

As it is, everyone in higher tiers can move if they want, they choose not to for good reason EVEN if it was free to do so, hell EVEN if they were PAID to do so. LOL

Ya that statement is 100% incorrect.. Seeing as there are other threads in these forums of people leaving your FULL servers since the change went into effect. Also hearing a lot of people moving back to some servers that were full and are no longer full. All those players moved up so I guess they are moving back down for a reason too..

No it is NOT incorrect. DO you know why they are leaving? This was decided before the changes silly. Server politics is what is going on. LOL The stacking of YB by a certain alliance is what caused that, has nothing to do with the changes being made . They are not moving to solo .. ROFL. They are moving to make T3 the GvG Tier now to protest the alliance, this was all decided before the changes. The servers that get chosen for this will probably not be happy about the invasion in the end,a s the GvG coming in will be taking them over.

lil devils x.6071:

They are moving to make T3 the GvG Tier now to protest the alliance, this was all decided before the changes. The tiers that get chose for this will probably not be happy about the invasion in the end,a s the GvG coming in will be taking them over.

Yes, but now they couldn’t move to these servers anyway as they’re locked, so probably the guilds won’t really be happy either.

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

As it is, everyone in higher tiers can move if they want, they choose not to for good reason EVEN if it was free to do so, hell EVEN if they were PAID to do so. LOL

Ya that statement is 100% incorrect.. Seeing as there are other threads in these forums of people leaving your FULL servers since the change went into effect. Also hearing a lot of people moving back to some servers that were full and are no longer full. All those players moved up so I guess they are moving back down for a reason too..

No it is NOT incorrect. DO you know why they are leaving? This was decided before the changes silly. Server politics is what is going on. LOL The stacking of YB by a certain alliance is what caused that, has nothing to do with the changes being made . They are not moving to solo .. ROFL. They are moving to make T3 the GvG Tier now to protest the alliance, this was all decided before the changes.

But you just said players do not leave t1 even if they were paid too.. They are still leaving so you are wrong once again.. Could care less about server politics and alliances since if you ask me, those are they type of people that ruin this game for others. So not only do they want a certain server out of one tier, they will transfer down, cause more imbalanced match ups just because they want that server gone. Going to be anets fault next when T2 and T3 get messed up right?

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

As it is, everyone in higher tiers can move if they want, they choose not to for good reason EVEN if it was free to do so, hell EVEN if they were PAID to do so. LOL

Ya that statement is 100% incorrect.. Seeing as there are other threads in these forums of people leaving your FULL servers since the change went into effect. Also hearing a lot of people moving back to some servers that were full and are no longer full. All those players moved up so I guess they are moving back down for a reason too..

No it is NOT incorrect. DO you know why they are leaving? This was decided before the changes silly. Server politics is what is going on. LOL The stacking of YB by a certain alliance is what caused that, has nothing to do with the changes being made . They are not moving to solo .. ROFL. They are moving to make T3 the GvG Tier now to protest the alliance, this was all decided before the changes.

But you just said players do not leave t1 even if they were paid too.. They are still leaving so you are wrong once again.. Could care less about server politics and alliances since if you ask me, those are they type of people that ruin this game for others. So not only do they want a certain server out of one tier, they will transfer down, cause more imbalanced match ups just because they want that server gone…

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions. It is only Anets’ fault for allowing it to become this mess in the first place. Locking the servers is only like throwing gasoline on an already blazing fire.

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

As it is, everyone in higher tiers can move if they want, they choose not to for good reason EVEN if it was free to do so, hell EVEN if they were PAID to do so. LOL

Ya that statement is 100% incorrect.. Seeing as there are other threads in these forums of people leaving your FULL servers since the change went into effect. Also hearing a lot of people moving back to some servers that were full and are no longer full. All those players moved up so I guess they are moving back down for a reason too..

No it is NOT incorrect. DO you know why they are leaving? This was decided before the changes silly. Server politics is what is going on. LOL The stacking of YB by a certain alliance is what caused that, has nothing to do with the changes being made . They are not moving to solo .. ROFL. They are moving to make T3 the GvG Tier now to protest the alliance, this was all decided before the changes.

But you just said players do not leave t1 even if they were paid too.. They are still leaving so you are wrong once again.. Could care less about server politics and alliances since if you ask me, those are they type of people that ruin this game for others. So not only do they want a certain server out of one tier, they will transfer down, cause more imbalanced match ups just because they want that server gone…

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up.

Ahh so they want to rig another tier is what you are saying?? Sounds like such a great WvW experience that I am missing out on seeing as you think I play with no one..

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

They are moving to make T3 the GvG Tier now to protest the alliance, this was all decided before the changes. The tiers that get chose for this will probably not be happy about the invasion in the end,a s the GvG coming in will be taking them over.

Yes, but now they couldn’t move to these servers anyway as they’re locked, so probably the guilds won’t really be happy either.

The lower tiers are not locked, they will just take them over and prevent them from moving up as planned keeping their other accounts on the full servers. People should realize that when they had that $10 sale people bought alt accounts like mad.

lil devils x.6071:

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions.

Not really, you guys on NA seem to be rather weird, actually, and I was wondering why it was only the first 8 servers left, yet all you do is the “pirate ship meta”.
Here’s what I think will happen: Those who are sick of the “GvG” actions will move to lower tiers and steamroll the tiers above them – I would do so as I like being the underdog and kicking lazy fat blobs – I hope anet will make that easier by buffing defenses and zergfights (stability changes, damage, condis etc etc) – it has been possible once and I hope it will again.
Come to think of it, maybe I should get another account and help my first server out.

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

As it is, everyone in higher tiers can move if they want, they choose not to for good reason EVEN if it was free to do so, hell EVEN if they were PAID to do so. LOL

Ya that statement is 100% incorrect.. Seeing as there are other threads in these forums of people leaving your FULL servers since the change went into effect. Also hearing a lot of people moving back to some servers that were full and are no longer full. All those players moved up so I guess they are moving back down for a reason too..

No it is NOT incorrect. DO you know why they are leaving? This was decided before the changes silly. Server politics is what is going on. LOL The stacking of YB by a certain alliance is what caused that, has nothing to do with the changes being made . They are not moving to solo .. ROFL. They are moving to make T3 the GvG Tier now to protest the alliance, this was all decided before the changes.

But you just said players do not leave t1 even if they were paid too.. They are still leaving so you are wrong once again.. Could care less about server politics and alliances since if you ask me, those are they type of people that ruin this game for others. So not only do they want a certain server out of one tier, they will transfer down, cause more imbalanced match ups just because they want that server gone…

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up.

Ahh so they want to rig another tier is what you are saying?? Sounds like such a great WvW experience that I am missing out on seeing as you think I play with no one..

We are not having that issue in T1, but most people missed the boat to figure that out. LOL

lil devils x.6071:

The lower tiers are not locked, they will just take them over and prevent them from moving up as planned keeping their other accounts on the full servers. People should realize that when they had that $10 sale people bought alt accounts like mad.

Yeah on NA, probably, things are a bit fairer on EU.
Still, there’s also the rest of us who don’t really care about GvG – and you can’t be everywhere.

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions.

Not really, you guys on NA seem to be rather weird, actually, and I was wondering why it was only the first 8 servers left, yet all you do is the “pirate ship meta”.
Here’s what I think will happen: Those who are sick of the “GvG” actions will move to lower tiers and steamroll the tiers above them – I would do so as I like being the underdog and kicking lazy fat blobs – I hope anet will make that easier by buffing defenses and zergfights (stability changes, damage, condis etc etc) – it has been possible once and I hope it will again.
Come to think of it, maybe I should get another account and help my first server out.

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

lil devils x.6071:

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions.

Not really, you guys on NA seem to be rather weird, actually, and I was wondering why it was only the first 8 servers left, yet all you do is the “pirate ship meta”.
Here’s what I think will happen: Those who are sick of the “GvG” actions will move to lower tiers and steamroll the tiers above them – I would do so as I like being the underdog and kicking lazy fat blobs – I hope anet will make that easier by buffing defenses and zergfights (stability changes, damage, condis etc etc) – it has been possible once and I hope it will again.
Come to think of it, maybe I should get another account and help my first server out.

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

LOL rigging wins. So that’s how WvW is played on 24/7 coverage servers?

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions.

Not really, you guys on NA seem to be rather weird, actually, and I was wondering why it was only the first 8 servers left, yet all you do is the “pirate ship meta”.
Here’s what I think will happen: Those who are sick of the “GvG” actions will move to lower tiers and steamroll the tiers above them – I would do so as I like being the underdog and kicking lazy fat blobs – I hope anet will make that easier by buffing defenses and zergfights (stability changes, damage, condis etc etc) – it has been possible once and I hope it will again.
Come to think of it, maybe I should get another account and help my first server out.

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

LOL rigging wins. So that’s how WvW is played on 24/7 coverage servers?

No that is how it is played on GvG servers, and those are the ones that moved from T2 to T3 atm. They do not have 24/7 coverage nor do they want it. They just want to GvG and never move up. Moving up means they cannot get the guilds on the map to GvG. They want empty maps so they don’t have their players stuck in que. That is why some can be somewhat “nasty” to others on the map trying to get them to leave to make room for them to GvG. They dont want roamers or PPters on the map so they can have room to fight.

lil devils x.6071:

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

I get that, still even t6+ servers can move up, and if it’s more than one you’ll might get a problem.

Edit: Anet should work on that actually. We have got a different matchup system on EU as it seems, we’re 14th playing against 17 and 18th? this week – hasn’t happened to me on NA and that’s not what I see when I look at the NA matchups. I have no idea why it’s different but it would a) create more diversity and b) diffuse plans of GvGlers. (On NA that is)

Edit²: Those who want more servers for their GvG might be locked out before everybody could transfer over – and at some point the plans of taking over this and that server and to hinder this and that server will fail.

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions.

Not really, you guys on NA seem to be rather weird, actually, and I was wondering why it was only the first 8 servers left, yet all you do is the “pirate ship meta”.
Here’s what I think will happen: Those who are sick of the “GvG” actions will move to lower tiers and steamroll the tiers above them – I would do so as I like being the underdog and kicking lazy fat blobs – I hope anet will make that easier by buffing defenses and zergfights (stability changes, damage, condis etc etc) – it has been possible once and I hope it will again.
Come to think of it, maybe I should get another account and help my first server out.

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

LOL rigging wins. So that’s how WvW is played on 24/7 coverage servers?

Ah, so the ebilll gvg’ers are going to hold the dead servers SBI, Maguuma, and CD hostage. We won’t be able to move up to t2 because clearly all 3 servers have been pushing to move up to t2. Because as you know, gvg’ers absolutely love server politics and match manipulation.

tl;dr lol

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

I get that, still even t6+ servers can move up, and if it’s more than one you’ll might get a problem.

Edit: Anet should work on that actually. We have got a different matchup system on EU as it seems, we’re 14th playing against 17 and 18th? this week – hasn’t happened to me on NA and that’s not what I see when I look at the NA matchups. I have no idea why it’s different but it would a) create more diversity and b) diffuse plans of GvGlers. (On NA that is)

If they moved to a T6 server to make it a GvG server, they just move it to where they want it and then block them from moving further. Yes, this does need to be addressed and part of what I was trying to help resolve. Everyone deserves to be able to have enjoyable gameplay.

EDIT: also addressing your additional edit: IF they are nasty enough to the people there, they will leave and make room for their players to come over. They intentionally run people off to make room .

ArchonWing.9480:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions.

Not really, you guys on NA seem to be rather weird, actually, and I was wondering why it was only the first 8 servers left, yet all you do is the “pirate ship meta”.
Here’s what I think will happen: Those who are sick of the “GvG” actions will move to lower tiers and steamroll the tiers above them – I would do so as I like being the underdog and kicking lazy fat blobs – I hope anet will make that easier by buffing defenses and zergfights (stability changes, damage, condis etc etc) – it has been possible once and I hope it will again.
Come to think of it, maybe I should get another account and help my first server out.

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

LOL rigging wins. So that’s how WvW is played on 24/7 coverage servers?

Ah, so the ebilll gvg’ers are going to hold the dead servers SBI, Maguuma, and CD hostage. We won’t be able to move up to t2 because clearly all 3 servers have been pushing to move up to t2.

tl;dr lol

Watch out. He already said it could get ‘nasty’ they don’t want any roamers or ppt’ers on the maps. LOL yea they’ll stay in T3 that way I’m sure

I’m sure GvG lers can hinder some servers to move but I don’t think this system is helping them – except if they take over one of the low tier servers, otherwise it will work against them.

briggah.7910:

ArchonWing.9480:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions.

Not really, you guys on NA seem to be rather weird, actually, and I was wondering why it was only the first 8 servers left, yet all you do is the “pirate ship meta”.
Here’s what I think will happen: Those who are sick of the “GvG” actions will move to lower tiers and steamroll the tiers above them – I would do so as I like being the underdog and kicking lazy fat blobs – I hope anet will make that easier by buffing defenses and zergfights (stability changes, damage, condis etc etc) – it has been possible once and I hope it will again.
Come to think of it, maybe I should get another account and help my first server out.

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

LOL rigging wins. So that’s how WvW is played on 24/7 coverage servers?

Ah, so the ebilll gvg’ers are going to hold the dead servers SBI, Maguuma, and CD hostage. We won’t be able to move up to t2 because clearly all 3 servers have been pushing to move up to t2.

tl;dr lol

Watch out. He already said it could get ‘nasty’ they don’t want any roamers or ppt’ers on the maps. LOL yea they’ll stay in T3 that way I’m sure

She* and yes, I am sure it will get nasty. Fake gari calls, flaming, dual crashing.. Have you not been to T2? They stay in the tier they wish by predetermining who wins, they ppt just enough to keep them where they want, it really isn’t difficult to do, they have been doing it forever. They can ppt and not ppt at will when they have guilds on all servers in the match helping them.

I don’t think people realize how much different it was between T1 and T2, like different planets.

Ahh well its late for me.. Thanks for spilling all the beans lil devil about what its like in the higher tiers. Honestly I just play to have fun and really I have more fun being in lower tiers.

Now I’ve been on same server since I started and that was in T8 if I recall but we got all the way up to T3 once I think. It was fun and I’d do it again but it was a lot of overtime from many people on our server and afterwards lots of people got burnt out.

If you ask me its more relaxed down in lower tiers. If we win, we win. If we lose, we lose. As long as we take SM before reset we see it as a victory LOL jk. Also I feel for T8 now but really no idea how anet would fix it without messing it up for other tiers.

I always said I would not transfer since I have made so many friends since I started to play this game. If its no longer fun due to nobody being around I’d either have to farm gold and move or quit. Transfer is always an option, I just hope I never have to use that as the option.

lil devils x.6071:

briggah.7910:

ArchonWing.9480:

briggah.7910:

lil devils x.6071:

Jana.6831:

lil devils x.6071:

Those that " left" didn’t technically leave T1, they still have accounts here. They have multiple accounts, and have one of their accounts stacked on YB to artificially move them up. T2 GvG protested this and are taking over other servers and plan to make SURE those servers do not move up. The GVG guilds are intentionally preventing servers from moving up. That has nothing to do with the changes, the changes only make that easier to do.

You “caring less” doesn’t change the reality of the situation created their actions.

Not really, you guys on NA seem to be rather weird, actually, and I was wondering why it was only the first 8 servers left, yet all you do is the “pirate ship meta”.
Here’s what I think will happen: Those who are sick of the “GvG” actions will move to lower tiers and steamroll the tiers above them – I would do so as I like being the underdog and kicking lazy fat blobs – I hope anet will make that easier by buffing defenses and zergfights (stability changes, damage, condis etc etc) – it has been possible once and I hope it will again.
Come to think of it, maybe I should get another account and help my first server out.

That is the opposite of what just happened. The GVG dropped tiers leaving the ppters and are going to force whatever servers they move to to stay in the GvG tier by rigging the wins. The ppters are on locked servers atm.

LOL rigging wins. So that’s how WvW is played on 24/7 coverage servers?

Ah, so the ebilll gvg’ers are going to hold the dead servers SBI, Maguuma, and CD hostage. We won’t be able to move up to t2 because clearly all 3 servers have been pushing to move up to t2.

tl;dr lol

Watch out. He already said it could get ‘nasty’ they don’t want any roamers or ppt’ers on the maps. LOL yea they’ll stay in T3 that way I’m sure

She* and yes, I am sure it will get nasty. Fake gari calls, flaming, dual crashing.. Have you not been to T2? They stay in the tier they wish by predetermining who wins, they ppt just enough to keep them where they want, it really isn’t difficult to do, they have been doing it forever. They can ppt and not ppt at will when they have guilds on all servers in the match helping them.

I don’t think people realize how much different it was between T1 and T2, like different planets.

Ppting to “where they want” is also what happens in t3 as a response to the four t2 servers making t3 unplayable era. It is done for good reason so they aren’t going to have a hard time. That being said, having people try to take over a server is a concern and it could get toxic especially when people don’t care where they are. However atm I am more wary about forces trying to join other servers to prop them up tiers. That seems more scarier than gvgers atm and in the long term there will be guild halls anyways.

@ Briggah, Ehmry Bay right? To be fair I thought you guys were dead too until lately but you know what they say about assuming =p It would seem like people underestimate the resilience of some.

ded wars 2 maybe not.

AmberUK.5380:

Tirien.1326:

I recently started playing it, but without a goal how long can anyone really play it?
There’s no point in doing anything in WvsW…

Put in a goal, like WO had.

Paint the map your colour

Winter is coming

Only wvw since release. I’ve dabbled in sPvP since people claim I don’t like it because I don’t know it, so I put in my time and still don’t like it. I’ve dabbled in PVE when I’m forced to because I need gold or want to level a character quickly, for wvw…

When there is no living story etc. to do, I’m either in WvW/EOTM or doing map completion. I don’t really like doing map completion but I’ve been so bored lately, especially since there’s been no real update to WvW/EOTM for ages in terms of new armor and weapon skins – because the last ones we got were from tournaments that we get maybe once a year if we’re lucky, and that’s only temporary content, so it doesn’t really count.

If there’s no living story available to play, I’d say my play time is 95-98% WvW/EOTM. With the exception lately of doing map completion on my characters in preparation for HoT, and also getting hero points for their specialisation traits and skills.

If there is a living story, I’d say my play time is 50% living story, 50% WvW/EOTM. But once that’s done, it’s straight back to WvW and EOTM. I only really do the PvE content for achievement points/better armor and weapons for my characters/for the skins.

So technically I’m not 100% just WvW/EOTM, but for the majority of my play time, that’s all I do really, with the odd bit of PvE living story/achievement stuff/map completion.