Guild Wars 2

I’ve just noticed within the past few days, people have alot to say about us. I’m just curious as to why lol. Not here to talk kitten, or tell you you’re wrong. I just wanna see everybody’s perspective. I’ve also seen a few comments here and there basically giving us props for getting on our feet after the Ascension Alliance “abandoned us and left us to die”, which that’s always nice. What do y’all (those who have gone against us in WvW) think of us?

Well as a Kaineng player I don’t hate northern shiverpeaks. its just did you have to keep on taking over our home keeps on Kaineng borderlands after you got up 300,000 on us?We had nothing to our name after a while.

I wasn’t in WvW last week (Home server NS), but I heard that was mostly due to zerging, and I’m sure we all know how that goes… So I really apologize for those on the receiving end of the massive capping that kept happening during the last few days.

(I can’t make a comment on us since I’ll be biased personally)

I heard people were complaining that people on NS were allegedly logging out to avoid dying. I never saw this happen and I really doubt it because why would it be localized to just the Northern Shiverpeaks server?

The other point would be that people on NS fought through the night, way into the morning and then some. I don’t know why you can really complain about this because it’s supposed to be 24/7 battling for 2 week periods.. but whatever.

One thing i do want to say is that northern shiver peaks was a top 5 server till Ascension Alliance left the server. Do i have ill feelings for them; not at all, this is a game and they have the right to play it however they like, but we’ve just recently started to get our own kitten together after such a loss and have the coordination back in order. Us looking to rise back to the top after bieng bumped down to the 3rd worst WvW NA.

Yeah, the whole night capping thing just seems totally fair to me. I really don’t understand what the big deal is. If you leave your keep undefended, it’s gonna get taken. Plain and simple. And yeah, I read about the zerging and logging thing too, but I’ve never seen the logging thing happen (on either side), and when I’ve played the past few days, we had a zerg, not gonna lie, but alot of smaller groups playing more strategically as well. And same here, Rawdll. And, as I stated other people have said before: considering that we suffered such a huge loss when Ascension left, we’re doing prettykittengood. I thought about leaving after , they did, but I’m really glad I stayed because it feels so good knowing that we can come back from that.

As a co-gm of one of the more active WvW guilds on NSP, it saddens me to see complaints against the server. We’ve made huge strides in terms of organization since our community was gutted when AA left. It sucks to be on the receiving end of a zerg, and we did have one, but major props also go to all of the guilds which cooperated to bring home the win against K and DR.

<- Anvil rock
I Know right, its not like you are taking everything from us as night when we have nobody on. Not like you out man us 5 to 1 at all hours of the day. first day we owned then our server went to bed and you night capped everything and now you are spawn camping us.

So what? you want me to not get a littlekitten off when we beat you down for the first day and then you night cap everything and spawn us? We just had the exact same thing happen to us against yaks bend.

So no, I love being out manned, getting spawn camped and not being able to do anything in WvW simply because you have more people. you are not better than us by any stretch, you just have more people. And at this end of the brackets its not about tactics or planning its all just who can have a full force attacking 24/7. because eventually you will win.

GG good luck next week. enjoy sitting outside with your arrow carts.

The Mann.4602:

As a co-gm of one of the more active WvW guilds on NSP, it saddens me to see complaints against the server. We’ve made huge strides in terms of organization since our community was gutted when AA left. It sucks to be on the receiving end of a zerg, and we did have one, but major props also go to all of the guilds which cooperated to bring home the win against K and DR.

“bring home the win” what? didnt even think they had any players.

SteelRecon.3824:

The Mann.4602:

As a co-gm of one of the more active WvW guilds on NSP, it saddens me to see complaints against the server. We’ve made huge strides in terms of organization since our community was gutted when AA left. It sucks to be on the receiving end of a zerg, and we did have one, but major props also go to all of the guilds which cooperated to bring home the win against K and DR.

“bring home the win” what? didnt even think they had any players.

I’m not going to have this pointless argument with you, because all I was speaking to was the fact that NSP has reorganized in a big way. DR and K had major showings the first night.

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6521/Anvil_Rock.PNG

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6539/Northern_Shiverpeaks.PNG

Just move up and get crushed by people with the same size population as you plz.

SteelRecon.3824:

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6521/Anvil_Rock.PNG

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6539/Northern_Shiverpeaks.PNG

Just move up and get crushed by people with the same size population as you plz.

If we could do it faster than one week at a time, we would.

SteelRecon.3824:

<- Anvil rock
I Know right, its not like you are taking everything from us as night when we have nobody on. Not like you out man us 5 to 1 at all hours of the day. first day we owned then our server went to bed and you night capped everything and now you are spawn camping us.

So what? you want me to not get a littlekitten off when we beat you down for the first day and then you night cap everything and spawn us? We just had the exact same thing happen to us against yaks bend.

So no, I love being out manned, getting spawn camped and not being able to do anything in WvW simply because you have more people. you are not better than us by any stretch, you just have more people. And at this end of the brackets its not about tactics or planning its all just who can have a full force attacking 24/7. because eventually you will win.

GG good luck next week. enjoy sitting outside with your arrow carts.

Talk to your community about night crews, so that’s not a problem.
I never saw, nor would I take part in spawn camping. Tom Clancy games on Xbox have made me develop a deep-seeded hatret for spawn camping lol.

Yeah Kaineng had a “big showing”(it was the same people we always have) the first 5 hours, but A. we never had a queue throughout the entire NSP week and B. after we all went to bed we woke up and everything was green the rest of the week…we only hold our own when we’re online. I didn’t see organization, all I saw were 30 man zergs at every major point on the map crushing everything in its path…we had to pull our whole server together to stop 1 of NSPs many war-parties

From Kainengs point of view, the only reason we lose is numbers…every group I’m with wins when we have a 1-1 ratio with the opposing force, even if they have 150 extra stats. Rarely have we lost an even fight(we being the group I’m in, I’m not aware of the success or failures of other groups)

Sorry you had a bad experience, while it’s undoubtedly better, it’s still not fun to hold everything all day. We can’t wait to get out of this bracket just as much as you guys want to get rid of us.

^

Though, idk if anyone here took part in that battle (I think against Ferg in their borderland) to defend the middle-most keep, but that was fun!

Its just frustrating when you lose not because your opponent is better than you but because they have a bigger force, how do I improve myself or my game play against that. I cant. I cant get better and beat you, I cant stop you having more people and Its hard to get people to join a server that is not 200k points in the lead.

I can’t do anything about it and it pisses me off. Then you put Seige outside our spawn to what? show us that amazing skill and co-ordination you have?

Gah just thinking about WvW gets my blood pumping. At this point I think a move back to 24 hour fights would create better gameplay.

No server acts as a single unit. Nobody that I play with, or coordinated with in our alliance, was orchestrating placing siege outside your spawn. Kinda similar to how you claim to not lose very many fights, we don’t either. There’s a lot of people playing the game. Mileage may vary. We can all agree that NSP needs to move up, we aren’t in control of how fast that happens.

How many WvW guild would you say you have?

I know you see NSP as just a bunch of zergs steam rolling over everything, but there are those creating some of those openings for us to swoop in and grab.

Blackout [BLO], set up and opened the doors for our server to take the FC garrison yesterday. This was a 5 man team. Now FC did try to stop us, but they ran into our defences and wiped in the range of 30+ on 2 seperate occassions. After Garrison, we [BLO] turn our sites on Cliffside. We got the south wall down, but FC wouldn’t let our forces close enough to get in.

Good Job FC!! tips hat

My point is, maybe look around and see what your not seeing before u blame the zerg.

Unfortunately, real life and work dictate gameplay time, and people aren’t going to quit they’re jobs and play all night to avoid being night capped

SteelRecon.3824:

How many WvW guild would you say you have?

Active, influential WvW guilds? I would put that at 6.

edit: I wasn’t trying to say that I was in contact with the entire server, rather the opposite. It’s never fun to get spawn camped and I don’t condone it.

We have 2 “Active, influential WvW guilds”.

SteelRecon.3824:

We have 2 “Active, influential WvW guilds”.

Honestly I’m a little confused why you’re being so argumentative. I’ve leveled with you on every point. I understand that it sucks to be you guys. It’s not my or anyone on NSP’s fault that you got matched with us, or that you have less people. We were put in this ELO because of a large alliance abandoning us, and we’re on our way out.

wdspeck.8723:

Talk to your community about night crews, so that’s not a problem.

It really gets me when people say garbage like this. If it were that easy do you honestly think we would be in this situation? No of course not. Having one or two guilds move to our server won’t help either. Anvil needs hundreds of new players, possibly even thousands. Nobody plays 24/7 people have lives.

So yeah, super great you are winning, but I can tell you for a fact that the most people Anvil had on ANY battleground tonight was under 50.

If you can find a way to convince about a 250-500 active pvpers of all time zones to leave their choked, but competitive servers and come to a ghost town server like Anvil, I would love to hear it.

But they won’t because sitting in a queue for hours and winning is preferable to them than having no queue and possibly being camped at spawn anyway.

The Mann.4602:

SteelRecon.3824:

We have 2 “Active, influential WvW guilds”.

Honestly I’m a little confused why you’re being so argumentative. I’ve leveled with you on every point. I understand that it sucks to be you guys. It’s not my or anyone on NSP’s fault that you got matched with us, or that you have less people. We were put in this ELO because of a large alliance abandoning us, and we’re on our way out.

ELO is used to measure skill. GW2 ladder shows how many people you can get to play all the time.

SteelRecon.3824:

The Mann.4602:

SteelRecon.3824:

We have 2 “Active, influential WvW guilds”.

Honestly I’m a little confused why you’re being so argumentative. I’ve leveled with you on every point. I understand that it sucks to be you guys. It’s not my or anyone on NSP’s fault that you got matched with us, or that you have less people. We were put in this ELO because of a large alliance abandoning us, and we’re on our way out.

ELO is used to measure skill. GW2 ladder shows how many people you can get to play all the time.

Alright, this is going to be my last response. I used the term ELO because it’s commonly understood as a rating system, no where did I imply anything about skill. Hopefully not everyone on your server is as bitter as you are. Good luck with your future matches.

The Elo rating system is a method for calculating the relative skill levels of players in two-player games such as chess. It is named after its creator Arpad Elo, a Hungarian-born American physics professor.

As a Guild Leader of one of the top 3 Guilds from NSP that does WvW I do apologize to Kaineng and DR for being quite relentless. I would like to give shout outs for Pain Train, FIST, and SoS from the servers for giving great fights. I am how ever saddened that apparently people think we only zerg. We have many organized guilds that actively seek out objectives as their own while not being over run with pugs.

I know the late night playing can be unfair to the average player. But I am a college student who stayed up until 5:30 AM EST to make sure AR’s foothold in EB was lost. We may not be the greatest server, but we are not meant for this bracket. I wish both servers luck in the future and hope that next time we play it is more fair. It was fun tho in EB last night, but it wasn’t nice that you 2v1’ed us from the start.

Joining in to chime in with Samusen, as another leader of one of the top, dedicated WvW guilds in NS, [TBH] coordinated with all of NS borderlands last night over map chat. We stayed on until 4 am to 100 percent cap the map.

As far as the zerging goes, idk who is watchign what, but I have plenty of raw fraps footage showing 1 FC zerg and 1 AR zerg, while NS was split up around the map. We eventually outnumbered you all due to being up late, but that’s why we aren’t going to be in your bracket long. As for zerging, I know of a group in my guild that’s 3 manned a tower now twice. Granted its all against NPCs but the fact they can 3 man a tower at 1-2am EST is disappointing.

I’m not trying to put anyone down here, we had fun pushing out FC and AR last night, even though it took a good 6 hours. But I can tell you it wasn’t a huge zerg doing it. My guild used over 50 siege blueprints last night, that doesn’t count the siege from SoH, ZoS, VK and others. Good luck to FC and AR in their next match-up, but until you cover more of the 24/7 time zone it will be rough every morning you wake up.

We have no players to cover all the time. our population is just not that large. and you only took stuff after we all logged so good luck when you have to fight people and not npc’s at night.

Please kick yaks bendskitten they deserve it.

and that also depends where they 3 maned the tower. we have about 20 in ARB over the night but the rest of the borderlands are deserted.

Ridcully.6514:

Well as a Kaineng player I don’t hate northern shiverpeaks. its just did you have to keep on taking over our home keeps on Kaineng borderlands after you got up 300,000 on us?We had nothing to our name after a while.

To speak for my guild(Os), the answer is a resounding yes. If you hate night capping, then your server needs to organize as a whole and assign guilds to night defense. It’s that simple or you can say bb to your gold every night.

Kiviar.7063:

wdspeck.8723:

Talk to your community about night crews, so that’s not a problem.

It really gets me when people say garbage like this. If it were that easy do you honestly think we would be in this situation? No of course not. Having one or two guilds move to our server won’t help either. Anvil needs hundreds of new players, possibly even thousands. Nobody plays 24/7 people have lives.

Then I don’t know what to tell you. Soon enough, you won’t have to worry about it.

Cleveland Cavaliers.

Sure, lets not talk about the FACT that Anvil Rock and Fergs double teamed us at the start and we still held our ground. Anvil was in the lead for like 20 minutes until NSP took the lead back.

I havent really seen that many complains against NSP, what I’ve seen was A LOT of mockery.

wdspeck.8723:

Then I don’t know what to tell you. Soon enough, you won’t have to worry about it.

Let’s see if you keep that smugness after a few weeks against servers like yak’s bend.

It’s not smugness. It’s fact. Soon, we won’t be in his bracket. I’m not saying we’re going to dominate everyone and everything. When we aren’t in his bracket, he won’t have to worry about us nightcapping.

Or, you. I didn’t realize it was you that replied lol.

Coolmoos.8546:

Sure, lets not talk about the FACT that Anvil Rock and Fergs double teamed us at the start and we still held our ground. Anvil was in the lead for like 20 minutes until NSP took the lead back.

Yeah, you held off. FC started coming back. Then in the morning…

I don’t think all of you people complaining about night capping understand WvW very well…

WvW is a 24 hours a day 7 days a week war. There is no break, there is no free time, there is no point leniency based on what time of day it is. Night capping is part of WvW, it’s not ArenaNets fault that we just so happen to not sleep until we’re happy with how the map looks

Anvil Rock and Ferguson’s Crossing were never winning for a large portion of time. When we held Stonemist, both servers were attacking us, and we still held our own. If you can’t hold us down and your players start to give up, what do you expect to happen? You think we’re just all going to go to sleep because everyone else does? No. Either get a few guilds into an alliance and set up who’s to play at night or stop complaining.

Neither Anvil Rock nor Ferguson’s Crossing deserve to win. If all you think is needed to win is a mid-day zerg, then you deserve to be with Kaineng and Devona’s Rest.

I’m not surprised people are in here saying that NSP night caps, we do constantly have people online, and we’ve become even more organized since AA left.

Its funny cause FC is sitting in their main base trebbing and catapaulting in an area where they’re invuln and we cant reach, even with ballistas.

All in all, i had a good night on FC BL. Any server who can gather enough intelligent people, use good communication, and work together and not be selfish with supply in keeps, etc, can hold their own.

i play on Kaineng. it really seems like NSP just has more players on WvW. it seems like most players i see on Kaineng are only interested in PvE.

FC came back for like 30minutes. They didn’t hold that long. And secondly we can’t help y’all go to bed at like 10pm on a Friday night.. lol

The only reason y’all got any points was because you realized it was even the entire time. So you guys started to attack each other. Thats when y’all got smashed

On my iphone so excuse typos. @Steelrecon

lets clarify somethings.

#1: You were in no way winning day one until you got night capped. YES it looked even the first hour before things settled in but every server looked even then. We were up (ns) by the second or third tally and never looked back. We held our stuff thru the night but dont act like you were winning logged off at 12:00 and woke up 50k down.

#2: If by spawn camping you are talking about titanspaw on your wvw map on saturday that was a small tactical unit from my guild looking to get supplies to cragtop tower. What you failed to mention is how we took the camp from you with 4 people vs your 7+ then we held it for 3 hours with only 6 people. Yes we set up seige and yes I have amazing screenshots I will post after I get home with us using said siege to destroy your mini zerg of 10-20 that failed to take it back at any point we were there. You all even tried to counter siege from the hill above and failed. You just kept sending 20 people down those stairs into 2 balista and 3 arrow carts…. Also once we left and came back later i do respect how you (anvil rock) had then copied our tactic and camped there the rest of the evening with siege. At least you learned something.

#3: We had fully upgraded the camp and even escorted dolyacs to cragtop. (god knows even holding titanspaw in the north for 3 hours it still took ages to get cragtop upgraded.

It comes down to organization and gold. Both of which Anvil Rock doesn’t have. If more people on AR would pop on, organize a small force of 5-10 people, support it with some siege equipment, you’d be surprised what you can do in an hour.

Instead people on AR run around like chickens with their head cut off swinging weapons blindly at keep doors. There is a reason our server is going down the list people, get over it.

Once people have finished their PVE story time and move to the real game things will get better. Until then do the server a favor and educate your fellow players why zerging a keep without bloody siege to support it is a waste of everyones time

Also another point from one of the more active guilds in PvP. While you (anvil) actually got Dread Bay on Sunday you all mindlessly attacked our zerg with your zerg at the front gates…

All the while my guild took 8 people and took down the Northern Gate allowing our zerg free access inside.

Just another case and point of how there will always be zerg balls roaming around on BOTH sides and often times the difference is a little bit of coordination.

Edit: 2 of your guilds not sure names but abbrev. are ANVL and RAID were fielding some 5 mans around Redlake trying to take out our supplies surrounding our Tower. (which we have held for 24+ hours with full upgrades)

I don’t know if they are under leveled or what but on MANY occasions 3 of us were patrolling and ran into a group of 5 and completely wiped them. once or twice in each supply camp and once in the middle island where the vet spawns. One time it was even as they took a camp and the guards spawned and got on us.

I agree it stinks that we have to chug our way out of this bracket 1 week at a time. We want out as much as you want us out but there are still small things that you call can improve upon for your future match ups. I use every buttwhupping i get as a chance to learn why i lost and to get better. We also review every victory and see why we won what we could of done better and where our opponent failed so we can handle that situation even better next time.

NSP, the worst ranked original server according to ANet.

At some point they will have to play someone with a population near them, is it happening now? Doesn’t look like it… but … who cares. :P

Looks like they get another “bye”?

It’s not about the money and it is not about the population either.

We fought Anvil rock and lost earlier when Ascendence left our server and we had not begun organizing our own Alliance. We had no organization and lost because of it.

Today, we still have no ques or very short ques. Our populations are similar and the gold we use to upgrade often comes out of singular people and guilds pockets. I know our upgraded in Os spent over 10 gold of his own money upgrading this week alone. The rest is gotten by shouting and from our allied guilds, but often, it is singular entities giving the gold. We aren;t any “Richer” than you, certain people just care more about defense.

As for populations, all servers cap at the same number and sometimes our maps aren’t even full. Northern Shiverpeaks is actually one of the 3 medium Population servers.

We recently have stepped up our game after falling to the 3rd to last spot by organizing and taking charge with allied guilds.

Ever Since Ascendence came, pushed out many pvp guilds with long que times (4-6 hours sometimes) and left, we have gone through some steep inclines. Soon enought he servers will balance out based on the skill and organization of the players. (Not their money or their populations.)