Guild Wars 2

Okay, so Underworld has been through a bunch of drama and the server has died multiple times, we only recently managed to rebuild a server WvW community, anet ruined that with the merge.

After our merge with Farshiverpeaks many of our guilds and commanders left the server and many players quit the server, but against all expectations we managed to get friendly and work well together with Farshiverpeaks and became a part of their community but now anet is going to merge us with another server, this is going to be the nail in the coffin for Underworld WvW!

We dont have any community left and after the merge most of our core players left the server, because of the merge none of the underworld guilds have been able to recruit players leading to an extreme lack in active WvW players showing up to guild raids.

Almost all of Underworld wants us to either go back to being our own server so we can rebuild our amazing and fun community we once had or for us to stay with Farshiverpeaks with whom all our experiences have been positive.

Please Arenanet, dont ruin the friendships and communties that has formed on Underworld again.

- Emil Brege (Underworld Commander, [Tal] Main commander)

I totally support the op. Our guild is not big and we had real issues recruiting new members. Now with a community build of UW and FSP players next merge gonna split us apart. Which sucks. And every new linking gonna to the same thing until the community dies. So to reiterate the op plz make linking of UW permanent

Well we still dont exactly know what’s going to happen. Maybe some servers get relinked, maybe all. Maybe some are relinked with the same servers (just like repeated matchups). I have no idea what the criteria is for the links.

All I know is this: We saw this issue coming a million miles away and concerns for the effects of breaking apart two more or less connected servers that are without any clear definition was voiced the second the news of the links came out. The moment Anet sees WvW as just another EoTM where servers and guilds is irrelevant is the moment WvW dies. Maybe that’s a good thing. I really dont know anymore.

Dawdler.8521:

Well we still dont exactly know what’s going to happen. Maybe some servers get relinked, maybe all. Maybe some are relinked with the same servers (just like repeated matchups). I have no idea what the criteria is for the links.

All I know is this: We saw this issue coming a million miles away and concerns for the effects of breaking apart two more or less connected servers that are without any clear definition was voiced the second the news of the links came out. The moment Anet sees WvW as just another EoTM where servers and guilds is irrelevant is the moment WvW dies. Maybe that’s a good thing. I really dont know anymore.

Makes me happy I’m on FA partnered up with BP, those guys are pretty easy going. But you are right, sooner or later wvw is going to be a EoTM format. Anet just can’t resist. They want blobs and pve in wvw, not roamers or unique guilds with healthy competition. These polls are just bait as usual to make you believe “we are listening” strategy. We do it at my job all the time to assure people feel like they are being heard and appreciated but in reality, the decisions have already been made. This is the way of the world and business, to trick the customer and keep them committed that something big is coming

I’m starting to believe anet never really had a plan, just their typical smoke and mirrors act. We seem to be complaining about the same issues, match up staleness, broken builds, condi xyz, blobs, defending, server stacking, roaming dwindling, etc.

They’ve had plenty of feedback and time.

It is great and all that some servers manage to get along well with eachother, but not all of us do. Fc is a low population server that was paired with dh, who now has a population even smaller than fc’s. The two of us never got along to begin with but as it is now dh does not have enough people to even be a host server anymore and needs to be tacked on to a real host server.

I have said this many times, this server link is destroying many servers, even though those were the servers this whole thing was supposed to help. If anet really cared about the smaller servers they would have either left things alone or only merged the bottom tiers instead of completely cutting the numbers in half.

I think their “balance” was well intended, but the top tier servers made the poll useless because it made the voices of the bottom ones unheard since they by definition don’t have as many people. The polls make it obvious they want to please the top tier servers more than the smaller ones.

It is possible they will hold another poll about the linking at some point but the votes are stacked since the majority of players are in the upper tiers. We deserve voices too. We may make the top servers a tad happier but they make us completely miserable and once we swap servers this Friday it will be more obvious and maybe they will listen

You ruined Underworld community ( and not only Underworld I believe) few times already.

1: free transfer few years ago (biggest guilds left). Since this day we became very small population server but full of friendly and nice people who decided to stay and fight as Underworld.

2. HoT and Desert bl (some ppl stopped playing because they didn’t want play on maps like this). Was it Anet fault? A little bit yes because we had “BETA” for test this maps but even when people said what is bad with this maps they didn’t change much.

3. Server link (A LOT of people stopped playing because they want play on server with small and more friendly community when people know each other for years). Few first days was hard for all but we did the best and after all I must say that I like FSP people.

but seems that this is not end of the road how to kill rest of UW community.

So now you will link us every 2 months with other server until UW will not exist because more and more people will be leaving. We was building nice community only almost 4 years so why not.

I understand that not all servers was linked with good server as we but you must agree that new community every 2 or even 4 months is bad for everyone because we don’t know each other and it’s a lot harder to play together. It isn’t PVE where you don’t need communicate as much.

All what we want is: Let as play as Underworld or let us linked with FSP.

Cernoch.8524:

All what we want is: Let as play as Underworld or let us linked with FSP.

Want to bet that Anet wont listen at all?

Just a plain server split isnt even absolute worst case scenario. Imagine if FSP get linked with another low pop parasite. People from UW that like FSP will probably move there instead to stick with friends and known commanders/guilds. Then your identity will not only be “FSP sortof” but it will be diluted across a third server while UW will be a potential wasteland. Repeat until no one knows where they belong anymore except for the main servers.

the people that leave will be the ones that arrived to play ‘upper tier’.
but I’d like to see a merger poll.
Far shiver caves, suits me.
post the massive release numbers its a fairly steady community, and as FSP droppped in numbers we hard core uw stayed the same. So its balanced itself out a bit, and we are just getting to the point of appreciating each other. I don’t fancy starting this all again.

Yes, people from UW who like FSP will probably transfer. And this will happens every 2 months.

Why each server haven’t poll separately? It will be harder for Anet I know but each server can decide if they want stay with linked server or no.

For example:
Ask only FSP and UW people if they want be linked with other server or stay as we are (FSP + UW) and make the same for each server.

I know it have few cons:
1. Harder to create this poll for Anet
2. Bigger server (FSP) will probably decide how the poll ends but atleast we will know what each server want.
3. If only 1 server wants to be linked with other server there will not be other server to link with.

I think that I don’t need to write pros about this.

From an FSP perspective, I believe the true UW members and true non-drama unselfish FSP members integrated really well, players who put in the necessary effort and time to keep the score going.

At the beginning I felt quite sorry for Underworld to be linked with a bigger server, which meant tougher matchups with far more players.

I always had the impression that Underworld was where they were down in Bronze, after being at the very top at one point, because it was where you preferred to be due to the more quiet play style, roaming play and no blobbing.

TAL has been very influential in the FSP-UW relationship and contributed a lot to keep us competitive.

From a fellow roamer/scout/coordinator, I thank you for this!

It will be really sad for our relationship to be broken just to back to square one again and start over.

Good luck for the future, Emil. Let us just hope that ArenaNet will make good and sensible decisions around this matter.

I see no reason why we can’t stay linked, it’s not as if we (FSP+UW duo) are rolling through the tiers like a hot knife through butter. we seem quite stable as we are and not too over powered or weak, unlike other link ups.

I understand your post Emil and me(FSP) really want you guys to stay together with us and not being passed by like a ball…

Underworld isn’t full so there isn’t much restriction on incoming players, I believe the problem is something else.

RodOfDeath.5247:

Makes me happy I’m on FA partnered up with DB

FTFY

OP, you mad FAM? Do you even WvW?