Guild Wars 2

Here is another fantastic idea for you free of charge!!!

This would:

1. Anet would sell millions of extra gems on a regular basis
2. Those who enjoy the current system can keep playing it!!!
3. Those who want competitive WvW and dont play for rewards will finally see their dreams come true!!!!

Here it is:

We implement a Sign-Up league system. You don’t have to sign up for the league you can just keep playing WvW on the ladder the way it is.

OR you can buy a league entry ticket for 800 gems. Once 3600 tickets have been sold, they will no longer be available. the league will be an 8-week long match between 9 worlds that have no more than 400 players per world.

Once 3600 tickets are sold, the 9 league worlds are announced and players can use their ticket to pick which world they will join for the league. Again, no more than 400 players can join a world. When a world is full it is full.

Once the worlds have filled up, on the following weekly reset the league will begin and it will last 8 weeks of each server facing each other server exactly twice.

In addition to other rewards, each player on the winning world will receive a free league entry ticket to join the next season.

Important points

1. Limit of 400 per world is what I thought makes sense. There could never possibly be queues on all maps. All maps could be full only if every single player in that world was on at the same time which will never happen.

2. This will require 3 WvW servers. Additionally, it will reduce the population of the standard WvW ladder meaning the problem solves itself; We won’t need to buy 3 more servers because we can reduce the # of ladder worlds and consolidate population in NA down to 18 worlds and EU down to 21. This reduces # of ladder matches by 4 which frees up 4 servers so we repurpose 3 for leagues and one can even be turned offline or used as a backup or for something else.

3. Reducing # of ladder worlds is easy. Point rank 24 to 13, 23 to 14, etc. When Devona’s Rest logs in to WvW they are now on Yak’s Bend’s WvW. The WvW teams will be given new names. Your “server” is now where you PvE and now your “World” is where you WvW. A new WvW transfer option becomes available. After 2 weeks those who were “moved” to a new WvW server will get an optional free world transfer in case they aren’t liking their new home (but can’t transfer to T1).

4. In league play, all WvW masteries are reset and you start with 150 points to spend. Each week you get 50 more points to spend. This does not change your “ladder” masteries or rank points in any way.

good idea but this isnt a pay to play game

Good idea but things like a server being NA heavy going against a Ocean heavy, so lots of people with no one to fight.

Darek.1836:

good idea but this isnt a pay to play game

right you can just keep on playin regular wvw.

besides 800 gems for 8 weeks is 100 gems per week which is like what 4 gold?? per week. You can farm 4 gold in 30 minutes. 30 minute per week of farming isn’t that hard.

Darek.1836:

good idea but this isnt a pay to play game

It could work if the tickets were something like:
Ticket holder = Get to choose your world two weeks before league starts
Non-ticket holder = Have to wait until the week before league starts to choose a world and some worlds may not be available due to high population

You could still collude and stack a world with proper planning and deep pockets, but the usual bandwagoners would pretty much be forced to spread out.

Samhayn.2385:

Good idea but things like a server being NA heavy going against a Ocean heavy, so lots of people with no one to fight.

I dont think the oceanics would pay gems just to stack on a server and night cap.

They already do that for free.

Nice out of the box thinking, but tbh I don’t think many would sign up. My impression is very few ppl want the league.

nothing.7941:

Nice out of the box thinking, but tbh I don’t think many would sign up. My impression is very few ppl want the league.

They would if WvW was competitive.

Everyone that doesn’t want leagues says so purely due to population imbalance and blowouts.

Darek.1836:

good idea but this isnt a pay to play game

Oh and there are already paid PvP tournaments so your argument is invalid.

Forget the paid part. Just suspend server WvW for a period of time. Instead allow everyone to sign up for one of 24 league teams. a floating cap would force all servers to be pretty close to even people wise.

This allows for competitive matches and guilds can all still sign up for the same team.

Works for everyone.

style.6173:

Forget the paid part. Just suspend server WvW for a period of time. Instead allow everyone to sign up for one of 24 league teams. a floating cap would force all servers to be pretty close to even people wise.

This allows for competitive matches and guilds can all still sign up for the same team.

Works for everyone.

then they can’t sell the entry tickets. any idea has to = profit or it will never happen.

Solstice.1097:

style.6173:

Forget the paid part. Just suspend server WvW for a period of time. Instead allow everyone to sign up for one of 24 league teams. a floating cap would force all servers to be pretty close to even people wise.

This allows for competitive matches and guilds can all still sign up for the same team.

Works for everyone.

then they can’t sell the entry tickets. any idea has to = profit or it will never happen.

also this change would be forced upon whereas mine would be voluntary.

i’m trying to suggest a win/win/win (anet, pugs, hardcores)

If google I am sure you could find some games that are pay to play. No game mode should cost gems.

timidobserver.7925:

If google I am sure you could find some games that are pay to play. No game mode should cost gems.

There is sPvP free tourneys and sPvP paid tourneys.

suggesting it for WvW is not changing the ideals of the game. they already do it.

This wouldn’t fix population issues. Sure there would be no issues for the people who spend gems to get put into the league assuming the leagues fill up. However, this could potentially leave a massive population gap in the non-paid matchups. Say on NA all of t1-4 got in and no one from t5-down did except for SoR which sent no one into leagues. Now this is an extreme example but think of the leftover population disparity.

All the people who didn’t want to pay to get in would complain and still be upset

TheAmpca.1753:

This wouldn’t fix population issues. Sure there would be no issues for the people who spend gems to get put into the league assuming the leagues fill up. However, this could potentially leave a massive population gap in the non-paid matchups. Say on NA all of t1-4 got in and no one from t5-down did except for SoR which sent no one into leagues. Now this is an extreme example but think of the leftover population disparity.

All the people who didn’t want to pay to get in would complain and still be upset

its an extreme example. in reality it would balance things better.

less servers and a lot of T1 would join the league reducing the huge gap between T1 and everyone else.

Solstice.1097:

nothing.7941:

Nice out of the box thinking, but tbh I don’t think many would sign up. My impression is very few ppl want the league.

They would if WvW was competitive.

Everyone that doesn’t want leagues says so purely due to population imbalance and blowouts.

You forget this is an online game of which vast majority are casual players looking for the least amount of resistance with phat lewts as a reward.

scootshoot.6583:

Solstice.1097:

nothing.7941:

Nice out of the box thinking, but tbh I don’t think many would sign up. My impression is very few ppl want the league.

They would if WvW was competitive.

Everyone that doesn’t want leagues says so purely due to population imbalance and blowouts.

You forget this is an online game of which vast majority are casual players looking for the least amount of resistance with phat lewts as a reward.

there are 2 kinds of players in WvW casual and competitive.

i am trying to offer a solution that leaves the casual game alone and as-is while creating a competitive alternative for WvW players (those who’d be willing to spend gems on it).

just like there are casual sPvP players and those who enter paid tournaments.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Solstice.1097:

scootshoot.6583:

Solstice.1097:

nothing.7941:

Nice out of the box thinking, but tbh I don’t think many would sign up. My impression is very few ppl want the league.

They would if WvW was competitive.

Everyone that doesn’t want leagues says so purely due to population imbalance and blowouts.

You forget this is an online game of which vast majority are casual players looking for the least amount of resistance with phat lewts as a reward.

there are 2 kinds of players in WvW casual and competitive.

i am trying to offer a solution that leaves the casual game alone and as-is while creating a competitive alternative for WvW players (those who’d be willing to spend gems on it).

just like there are casual sPvP players and those who enter paid tournaments.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Again there better be phat lewts or cash prizes even for the serious competitive gamers to make their gem purchases worth it. To state they are in a paid league simply for “competitive matches”? It’s gonna take far more than competitive matches if serious gamers are paying cash/gems/gold out their pockets to attend.

Solstice.1097:

Samhayn.2385:

Good idea but things like a server being NA heavy going against a Ocean heavy, so lots of people with no one to fight.

I dont think the oceanics would pay gems just to stack on a server and night cap.

They already do that for free.

They actually do. 2 of the biggest oceanic/SEA guild just joined JQ. Oceanic/Sea are nearly to non existent on lower tiers. It always be the same guild running while on t1 you’ll see hundreds of them. It is sad to be a SEA player like me as I’ll only get blow up fight on every server, some good(will always win) against t3/2 and getting steamrolled against t1. Imagine this when league start, I’ll be only getting one week(sure win) of good fight while the rest are just steamrolled or PvD.

People keep on saying TC is stacked, we’re not. We just have tons of fair-weathers. And PvE. Them PvErs…..

Solstice.1097:

TheAmpca.1753:

This wouldn’t fix population issues. Sure there would be no issues for the people who spend gems to get put into the league assuming the leagues fill up. However, this could potentially leave a massive population gap in the non-paid matchups. Say on NA all of t1-4 got in and no one from t5-down did except for SoR which sent no one into leagues. Now this is an extreme example but think of the leftover population disparity.

All the people who didn’t want to pay to get in would complain and still be upset

its an extreme example. in reality it would balance things better.

less servers and a lot of T1 would join the league reducing the huge gap between T1 and everyone else.

My point though is that there will be that one core group on the higher tier server (or more than one) who deems it a stupid idea and stays, keeping a massive population on that server compared to the other ones.

because it would create population imbalance is not a valid argument. there already is horrible imbalance. let those people have their imbalanced game. let’s have a separate match for people who want to win with the same #s as their opponents??

there would still be a total of 1 less total server than there is today. the majority of the people joining leagues would be from upper tiers. this means the populations would actually be closer together than they are now.

or is it balanced already and competitive matches are easy to find?