Guild Wars 2

Noroz.9527:

Budchgon.2108:

“These pvers in my wvw thread go away … casuals … go back to your living story and cof farm”

Definition of a ‘Bad’ WvW Commander hehe

“Yeah, I know they provide PvE. But why are you doing PvE in WvW? It’s pulls attention away from what you are supposed to do. If you want to PvE, you should not be in WvW”

If you are so focused on ‘only pvp’ Why are you in WvW? Why not play Spvp? And rather arrogant to state that I don’t ‘do’ what I am ‘supposed’ to do! – If you were not supposed to fight the Champs in WvW, why are they there? Maybe you are ‘supposed’ to fight them?

You obviously don’t realize that WvW is about taking points. It isn’t PvE. And sPvP is boring as hell to me, so no, I won’t.

I don’t know why they are there, and I really hope Anet will remove them asap so we can get rid of the people who kill the Champs.

I agree to a point … Maybe totally re-structure WvW to make it more fun for everyone (Maybe give points for killing a Champ in an enemies area) to stop Commanders whining or only make Commanders effective only to their guild (to stop them relying on the casuals they so despise).

i feel bad for ur commanders putting up with some of u

if i was on ur servers i wouldnt even tag up and then listen to ppl cry how there is no commander

SykkoB.9465:

i feel bad for ur commanders putting up with some of u

if i was on ur servers i wouldnt even tag up and then listen to ppl cry how there is no commander

I feel bad for our players when they follow a Commander who either doesn’t have a clue or the ‘Commander tag’ gives him a Napoleon complex.
If you can’t earn respect, then best for you to leave your tag off (Then both parties happy) :-)

Saying that, Gandara ‘does’ have some very good Commanders who make the game fun and know how to get the best from both organised and pug players.

I say “Screw Commanders” that act horribly to everyone that doesn’t do every minute detail they demand of every pug. Who cares if they get upset in a chat box. /ignore them.

Good commanders get a good following and players will listen to them without the need for them to act out like that.

However, if all you do is go into WvW to fight the wurm, tree, grub or whatever that is most like PvE without helping your WvW server, shame on you for taking someone’s place.

I know a particular guild that mostly only runs supply from Stonemist and Keeps to walls being trebbed so they can get supply achievements in WvW. They get ripped to nothing in wvw chat, yet they keep on doing it. I dislike these players more than any who decide to take out a wurm, tree or whatever champ.

Overall, get thicker skin and/or use the /ignore command.

Good luck!

That worthless grub… Hate that grub.

Honestly, I think it’s okay to kill it ONLY IF your server is so far ahead in points that you can spare the players. I get mad at players attacking the grub while our towers are falling, we’re losing camps, our keep is in danger, and we desperately need players to help us survive. Then it’s VERY annoying to see players wasting time on that stupid, fat grub.

Do that crap in PvE. you are a waste of a queue space

The way I view WvW:

1) Does your map have a queue? No? Do whatever the hell you want.

2) Does your map have a queue? YES! Please consider following the commanders or switching maps, space is limited OMFG I hate you alllll omg dieeee

or

3) “I hate having my tag on, why do I have my tag on?”

the answer is 3.

Most players are able to determine who is a good commander while negating the ones with no clue; in saying this groups can be just as effective without a commander present. The ones I avoid spend all their time telling people what not to do or abuse players

This is usually what happens when you attack a grub just for the sake of it without any regard to the status of your situation in enemy territory if you are (green or red color)

1) Commander and zerg/militia just capped a tower (lets say Bravost, next to blue spawn)
2) Grub is roaming around outsides blue’s keep ruins.
3) Pugs/militia decide to go an kill the grub for WxP and badges
4) Everyone is busy killing the grub and pretty much get tunnel vision
5) Commander usually realizes the enemy is capping your towers, sentries, and supply camps, while everyone is busy hacking away at the grub, wasting valuable time that could be used to defend objectives.
6) Pugs/militia dont realize they have just been scouted by an enemy, who then tells his server that the enemy are outside their keep busy fighting the grub.
7) Enemy zerg ambushes the group fighting grub and pugs dont realize until 10 secs later that they have just been wiped by an enemy they did not expect or see coming because they were too focused on the grub.
8) Commander and his zerg/militia dies and gives the enemy server WxP, lootbags, and possibly the grub itself.
9) If the zerg was pretty big and got wiped, the enemy now has some time to cap your supply camps and start putting the screws on your server since you guys are taking time to respawn, resupply, and repair armor.
10) Commander gets angry and pugs/militia wonder why they all died. The all hell breaks loose with people fighting/accusing each other of being dumb, annoying,etc.. and the atmosphere goes to kitten.

If your server is ahead and you are sure your position is secure then i don’t see why you shouldn’t get the grub. But a lot of pugs/militia fail to realize that the amount of time it takes to kill the grubs you can get 5x the badges and WxP from following a good commander and capping towers/objectives.

Oh good you finally killed the grub, and got your 3 badges, all the while your group was wiped and the enemy has your entire side of the map capped with your enemy zerg probably laughing at how easy it was to kill your group not paying attention and probably got more WxP and lootbags/badges than you got from the grub. Was it worth it?

Or sit in the keep firing cannons, mortars or anything else effective at the zerg trying to kill the grub getting lots of loot bags in the process. Tunnel vision is right; how could you not know the enemy is trying to wipe you out while battling the champion grub or perhaps they just don’t care.