Guild Wars 2

The two most popular topic out of three in the last month is about Bloodlust. There are really really serious talks about this and there are a huge number of ideas around. Yet, there are only two post made by a dev and both doesnt really say much about it.

This ignorance is really killing me right now.

rhodoc.2381:

The two most popular topic out of three in the last month is about Bloodlust. There are really really serious talks about this and there are a huge number of ideas around. Yet, there are only two post made by a dev and both doesnt really say much about it.

This ignorance is really killing me right now.

I feel your pain bro ! I really do.

Sadly this is the state of the development studio culture. Essentially we aren’t seen as worth while individuals but more as children who require “telling” here and there when in actual fact it is the developer who is acting like a petulant child that wants to see the outcome of a project they know isn’t fit for purpose (Ever told a child not to put their hand in a flame? They end up being burnt and crying… that is exactly the situation here.)

Because it’s bliss?

They also merged all the bloodlust topics into a meaningless mess lol

Because it has already been implemented, resources have been spent doing it, etc. You really think they’re going to back up now and say “ok ok we don’t implement this after all” because a bunch of angry forum posts?

The real question is, who asked for these upcoming changes in the first place and where? Are the devs listening to the players at all or just steamrolling their vision and hoping the players will eakitten

They probably want to see how things play out at first.
If it really is as worse as players make it out to be, they will change it in the future, but as seen in previous patches players tend to “overreact” to changes.

GUYS PEOPLE ARE STILL PLAYING WVW THEREFOR EVERYTHING WORKS.

Right?

Cogswick.5236:

GUYS PEOPLE ARE STILL PLAYING WVW THEREFOR EVERYTHING WORKS.

Right?

Haha +1 for that

On a serious issue it seems like devs are doing the exact opposite of what players want.

“We don’t want to have to grind to have fun”
-“Here’s some awesome new laurel currency you have to daily farm to get top level gear in a few months of farming!”

-“We want to be able to obtain the same things in WvW as in PvE”
-“Here’s an awesome back piece you can’t obtain through PVP”

“We don’t want new gear that will break the already delicate balance”
- “Here some awesome ascended stuff to farm!”

“We don’t want stat buffs!”
- “Here some new awesome mechanic that will reward the bigger zerg with some stat buffs!”

“We don’t really care for masteries”
-“Here’s some exciting new cow munition for trebs mastery!”

“Condi meta is so broken!”
-“Here’s some new awesome broken OP conD runes that will help you stack confusion on top of your ridiculous unmitigated uncapped condition damage!”

“We need some reward for defending keeps/towers!”
-“Here’s some more rewards for map flipping!”

I could go on. And that’s too much for me. I’m out. I’m really starting to feel like they’re making a kitten of me.

Tom Gore.4035:

The real question is, who asked for these upcoming changes in the first place and where? Are the devs listening to the players at all or just steamrolling their vision and hoping the players will eakitten

This is the core problem.
I imagine it like this: a bunch of Devs meeting in EB, smoking some Lemongrass, having visions about Siege Wars 2 together. Afterwards they write their ideas down, think about it and decide to hide them from the public folks because they fear the responses.
Then suddenly they reveals their stuff shortly before release with the idea of “haha, its too late now, we cant do anything :’( qq kkthxbye”.

While instead all we ask for is Devon kicking the dude, who is responsible for the broken party system, everyday in his nuts till he fixes it. And stop adding stats on Masterys/Orbs/Bloodlust.

Tynyss.8237:

They probably want to see how things play out at first.
If it really is as worse as players make it out to be, they will change it in the future, but as seen in previous patches players tend to “overreact” to changes.

Yeah, last week it was ERMAGURD ASCENDED! Then ERMAGURD PVP BALANCE! Then ERMAGURD THIEVES AND WARRIORS! There’s always some hot button fotm topic, and they always simmer down.

Prediction, they’ll release these buffs, there will be some initial outcry, then it’ll simmer down, some tacticians will come up with strategies on how to manage the changes, then everyone will jump on the next ERMAGURD fotm topic.

If it doesn’t, the devs will likely pull the points and we may be left with some pretty, but ultimately useless ruins while they try to figure out what to do.

Tom Gore.4035:

Because it has already been implemented, resources have been spent doing it, etc. You really think they’re going to back up now and say “ok ok we don’t implement this after all” because a bunch of angry forum posts?

This.

Regardless of how many threads/posts are on the forums (especially as out of a 300 post thread it’s normally 20 people repeating themselves) the people posting here will ALWAYS be in the minority of the playerbase – those who don’t mind the changes are too busy playing. You will never please everyone, and forums are far from a representation of actual opinion.

Neandramathal.9536:

Tom Gore.4035:

Because it has already been implemented, resources have been spent doing it, etc. You really think they’re going to back up now and say “ok ok we don’t implement this after all” because a bunch of angry forum posts?

This.

Regardless of how many threads/posts are on the forums (especially as out of a 300 post thread it’s normally 20 people repeating themselves) the people posting here will ALWAYS be in the minority of the playerbase – those who don’t mind the changes are too busy playing. You will never please everyone, and forums are far from a representation of actual opinion.

Even though the posters on the forum might be a minority of players, when you go back 50 pages of threads, there are only a handful that get to 300 posts. This should be enough to tell you that it is a topic of interest that the players are seriously concerned with.

3 of those topics deal with matchups, GvG and Bloodlust. The matchup thread has 55,000 views, by far the most read thread in the past 3 months. Something Anet should pay attention to.

Swamurabi.7890:

Even though the posters on the forum might be a minority of players, when you go back 50 pages of threads, there are only a handful that get to 300 posts. This should be enough to tell you that it is a topic of interest that the players are seriously concerned with.

It tells you only that a handful of people have a lot of time on their hands (me included). Just go through those threads and start checking off repeat posters… you’re going to have very few unique posters.

Forum representation is not a good gauge of the actual in-game population. On average a very small percentage of people who play the game visit the forums, as such being a developer it would be a REALLY REALLY REALLY bad idea to take forum posts (which aren’t even unanimous) as something that should affect your development trajectory.

Also, how can people say that it’s bad if they haven’t even tried it? I reserve judgment until I see the new and improved Orb buff in action.