Guild Wars 2

Oh, isn’t that nice? In the greyed out overlay text when you hover over your server colour in the WvW window, there’s a little tiny asterisk marking your home world. What a lovely recognition when you are a subworld guest.

As I said before… Majority rules… even though that majority was mostly already playing in the host servers. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter what the pug servers wanted or enjoyed. This has, or is being, done to keep the majority happy. I truly hope it does. My play time has already been dropped drastically although I know I will pop in now and then with friends.. I no longer spend over 90% of my time in WvW. I’m not whining and pouting, I just don’t like the big zerg/blob life. If I can get in with some friends at ‘low’ times then it’s more fun. They’re there, just not easy to find all the time. Last night actually was a lot of smaller groups running around, not sure where the blobbers went but I suppose maybe EB. Our group fought the battle of the host homeland. If ANet can tell me that if the mergers stick, that we will remain with the host we are at and not be bounced around like pugs then I will learn to live with that. But the moment I am suddenly on a new host with a new “home” then I can guarantee that my engagement in WvW will drop even more. If I want to pug for nothing in particular then I can go to EoTM.

@Balth – As of now you are a nomad like it or not. You have no chance to transfer to any host as they are all set to full. (Like DH has anything close to the pop of BG……..) If you like the T4 style of play, guess what your linked world might be T1 next go around. And the peeps who went ET, you might be T4 next go around……

Linking may have had a chance if hosts were open for the guests to choose a more permanent style of play they wanted …..

ANet,

Now I understand what you’re doing. You’re actually trying to make WvW into what the other MMORPGs are like.

I actually spent this evening looking for another MMORPG to replace WvW…and they’re all fast paced & aimed at short attention span match-ups.

Your changing WvW to be fast action & short attention in nature. What matters most is the sheer volume of combat…aka…blobbing.

What you don’t understand…is that the Hardcore WvW Players that love this Game Mode…don’t really enjoy this play style…constantly 24/7.

This is the one thing that your WvW Game Mode used to offer…is down time, or a slower pace of fighting.

Where people can build a Long Term Community. I mean…seriously personal relationships over a game. It’s almost equivalent to people going to the same tavern, bar, or pub.

Just thought you should know…that your efforts will place your product into the same genre and competition of the other multitude of MMORPGs being developed & marketed.

Perhaps those other MMORPGs earn a lot more…based on your research.

However, you will loose the one thing that truly makes your WvW product unique in a universe of highly competitive MMORPGs. It’s the camaraderie of a Solid & Thriving WvW Community.

Sadly…I don’t think you’ll understand the loss of this camaraderie that will be replaced by a short term MMORPG gaming culture that you’re encouraging without the Lower Tier Ecosystem.

I’ll still play WvW, but to be honest…I’ll probably start to drift away…after being turned into a refugee.

Still appreciate your effort…ANet’s WvW Game Mode…still has no real competition at the moment…compared to the other MMORPGs out there.

I seriously looked at your competition tonight…you still have a unique product…imho

Peace,
Diku

p.s.
Been a loyal fan to Guild Wars 1 from Beta & when it launched in April 2005…bought 12 accounts to run a Mega-Guild.

Continued being a loyal fan to Guild Wars 2 from Beta & when it launched in August 2012…bought 5 accounts…currently only using 3 accounts. I still have 2 un-opened game boxes from launch.

It’s been over 11 years…playing your Game product…and it’s been great to have made a lot of friends along the way. Thank you for providing a product that allowed me to make many good memories through the years.

Our Guild Hall…Welcome Home.

I know the poll is over, and it’s in favour of wold linking…. but I’ll add my two cents in. It is a horrible idea, I don’t see most of the players from my server (which is a guest) anymore. To be honest, when I or a couple of us from the original server cap something and we see on the screen the host server has captured it.. it’s frustrating, cause it’s not them that did the work, it’s us. We aren’t allowed to pick up supply from the citadel, cause it’s not our citadel. There are so many things wrong, that others have already stated and I agree with all of them. This is very disheartening and will probably lead to a number of us not playing much in wvw anymore, which is a shame, as I used to thoroughly enjoy it in there. Anet have taken our home away from us… most of us have been on FC since the launch of the game, now we don’t have our home, it appears we will forever be refugees linked to a different host every couple of months.

• Edited to correct spelling

Un-intentionally or not…

Heart of Thorns Guild Upgrades – Denied Small Guilds Access to Features that gave them a reason to exist. Deprived of tools to function they’re suffocating and dying. Only the large Guilds can effectively survive.

WvW World Linking – Denied Small Communities Access to Features that gave them a Place to exist. Deprived of identity they’re suffocating and dying. Only the large Guilds can effectively survive.

Please give us our Home Back…players like us really love your Game Product, but I feel like you’re punishing us…to make WvW into something that it shouldn’t be…imho

There’s a better alternative above that’s called WvG.

World vs Globes

The design allows for the fast paced & short attention span match-ups, but also allows for other shades of battles & play styles…

While effectively encouraging different time zones, languages, and players from any World to play together.

Please keep this thread positive & help to convince ANet that we want a better Long Term Solution.

If you do have to take out your anger…then please consider posting in another topic thread…then stop playing WvW or GW2 in protest.

Peace,
Diku

Possible Full Solution – Google Search – Reboot Base Map Mechanic

Actually, one of the worst things about this, is that all the folks who have been so angry about linking that they were not playing WvW during this time, where never given any notice or opportunity to vote.

So, the people who hated this the most were excluded from the polling. Talk about a fixed vote.

Diku: In my humble opinion after reading lots of your very good posts as well as the well thought out posts of many of the other people in the “lower tier” servers I have honestly reached the conclusion that this kind of thing is happening..

Person in favor ( including ANet ) reads posts in here and in his/her mind: yes, yes, yes, blah blah blah, yes yes yes yes, blah blah blah… etc. They aren’t going to change what they’re doing. They will continue to use the so called majority to justify what they have already decided a while back no doubt in “brain storming” sessions with people that truly don’t understand the great culture that had been built in WvW until the big changes started happening. Honestly this will be my last post in here. Like you I will no doubt go into WvW… but I stopped tagging up a long time ago and won’t be doing it anytime soon with the small exception of guild mission squads, and even that the tag can be dropped after forming the squad. My days of going into WvW EVERY DAY for hours are over. I now go into WvW now and then and usually only for an hour or so (used to be 4-6 hour runs for me almost every day).

This culture that some of us talk about doesn’t matter really to anyone but our so called minority and after the dust clears and everything is settled, if it keeps going the way it is right now, WvW will turn into what you suggested above… a fast paced 24×7 fight fest action film that gets tiring… well it’s already tiring for me. I still find quiet times now and then but it’s few and far between and so on and so on.

Place your head firmly between your legs and kiss BP goodbye… As a home server it’s gone. As a community many are still fighting for identity. (can’t even get sups from citadel because we are nomads). … and WHEN we are moved to yet another server we will continue to be pugs with no identity other than the inside one we create for ourselves. We can’t even really join a guild in WvW on the Host server and expect it to be permanent since we will soon be most likely gone from there… oh @#$% I’m rambling.. I’ll stop now… Loaded the game today, looked at the screen, logged out. This is a first for me… and probably not the last…

and fwiw.. I’m not angry so this isn’t an angry post. I thought about it a lot.. it’s how I feel about what I see and I’m just worn out… that’s all…

Ariel.6291:

Actually, one of the worst things about this, is that all the folks who have been so angry about linking that they were not playing WvW during this time, where never given any notice or opportunity to vote.

So, the people who hated this the most were excluded from the polling. Talk about a fixed vote.

The communication was here. Sorry they don’t visit the forum. The old saying “Ignorance is no excuse”. If you are truly interested in this game mode, they should be monitoring this forum.

Loosmaster.8263:

The communication was here. Sorry they don’t visit the forum. The old saying “Ignorance is no excuse”. If you are truly interested in this game mode, they should be monitoring this forum.

Good point, but I think there’s a related thread discussion here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/How-Long-Should-Polls-be-Managed/first#post6178053

Can ANet rename the “guest” servers – or as they so telling referred to us, “subworlds” – as “Refugee Worlds”? That would be most fitting.

Loosmaster.8263:

Ariel.6291:

Actually, one of the worst things about this, is that all the folks who have been so angry about linking that they were not playing WvW during this time, where never given any notice or opportunity to vote.

So, the people who hated this the most were excluded from the polling. Talk about a fixed vote.

The communication was here. Sorry they don’t visit the forum. The old saying “Ignorance is no excuse”. If you are truly interested in this game mode, they should be monitoring this forum.

I think you’re completely missing the point. The vote was made way too late, especially for many players who hated it right off the start. They voted with their feet.

the part I don’t get is that even if a nomad got past losing their home and wanted to settle into a new home – they can’t as all hosts are full. like server 12 is anything close to bg, tc, yb, db etc ……

Loosmaster.8263:

Ariel.6291:

Actually, one of the worst things about this, is that all the folks who have been so angry about linking that they were not playing WvW during this time, where never given any notice or opportunity to vote.

So, the people who hated this the most were excluded from the polling. Talk about a fixed vote.

The communication was here. Sorry they don’t visit the forum. The old saying “Ignorance is no excuse”. If you are truly interested in this game mode, they should be monitoring this forum.

Making reading the forums some sort of requirement to take part in something that affects the game is ridiculous. ANY poll that affects the game should be announced to ALL players IN GAME or sent to their registered email(ANet has those for things like this). Not just to someone who leveled up in WvW. Making it just for someone who leveled up in WvW, especially way after the fact like it was done, is simply exclusionary and not fair.

Whats the point in the linking if the two communities wont coexist ? we only got the pleasure of joint queues.

i dont know how anet calculate population in wvw,, but its not working,, so far the merging system only emphasize the problem even more,, the already populated server are now so full that all the other cant do a thing

WvW Game Mode Vision?

Epic SuperBowl World Globe Event vs ShootEmUp Player Game

Which is better?

This is like Iron Chef…DESIGN your Core!

But, we all know which choice got chosen…pewpew!

Still feel the solution needs to be Player Driven…yet…ANet Controlled.

You can’t control typical Gamer’s basic instinct to be on the Winning Team…and Server Stack for the advantage…so we should have a Game Mode that has a Core Design that takes that into account…imho

World Linking & Score Manipulation won’t be a fun task for ANet to constantly perform to keep everybody happy in the WvW Ecosystem…in the Long Term.

Yours truly,
Diku

Possible Better Long Term Solution – Google Search – wvg world vs globes

Diku.2546:

Please keep it constructive to help provide feedback that ANet can use to improve WvW.

Sorry, I think it is much to late to improve GW2 WvW, maybe the only contructive way can be: make proposals how GW3 WvW should be

Dayra.7405:

Diku.2546:

Please keep it constructive to help provide feedback that ANet can use to improve WvW.

Sorry, I think it is much to late to improve GW2 WvW, maybe the only contructive way can be: make proposals how GW3 WvW should be

They would end the same engine, while what made gw2 issues was the fork from gw1 engine they tryed to surpass those boundries game had but there was a hard limit on what they can do on gw2 engine.

Still have to take hat off it was a good fork, but i would not use it for a gw3 game, unless it would become a much more modular game engine permiting add and improve(as in work) mechanics individually w/o messing with the core fo the game.

Thanks for that Dayra. A fine illustration of how to be constructive. Dig up an ancient post and make a lame joke. Game mode not suiting you? Go away. Same goes for the rest of you. Don’t like it? Do something else.

Haha no I wasn’t the one who diggred it out just the post I cited doesn’t exist anymore

And no, it wasn’t meant as lame joke, people are gone now, it would need a mayor release to get more than a handful back.