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Posted by: kale.5102

kale.5102

Hey,

For a while now, Seafarer’s Rest and Kodash[DE] has been the only 2 european servers that have been marked as full. Before that the top 8 or so servers were marked as full, but all were sometimes marked as Very High for a bit.

Seafarer’s Rest have had bunch of active wvw players leave, now an entire guild that moved to Desolation.

World population status seems to be locked atm.

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Posted by: SailorSpira.9371

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It took FA several weeks and the loss of multiple guilds before we dropped from Full to Very High.

I’m not sure how full your servers are but it isn’t a one out one in system. It could take a lot more players leaving to drop below full.

FA [CC]

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

Compared to servers that where overstacked, these where obviously way, way, WAY overstacked. If EoTM also count where 90% of the players are karma trainers from SFR, well there is you answer.

But since no new players can join, its just a matter of time before they loose full status too (people will always leave).

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Posted by: Synosius.9876

Synosius.9876

SFR is over populated, especially with players who transferred just to be green in eotm everyweek.

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Posted by: kale.5102

kale.5102

Hey,

Thanks for replies. Makes total sense if EOTM wvw counts towards the server population. I hope arena net will be able to find better ways to balance in future.

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Posted by: Zetsumei.4975

Zetsumei.4975

Pretty sure the devs already said eotm doesn’t count towards the wvw activity count.

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Posted by: CrimsonNeonite.1048

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In all seriousness the Population algorithm is a joke still.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

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If you have guilds transferring off, it seems like it will take about 2-3 weeks before their activity level in WvW is reflected in the world population. They are not removed immediately.

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Posted by: Liston.9708

Liston.9708

Pretty sure the devs already said eotm doesn’t count towards the wvw activity count.

You are correct – eotm not included.

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Posted by: Digitus.8971

Digitus.8971

Guys i know it’s a little OT but i dont know where to ask. I’m playing since ages in Seafarer’s Rest, but a friend of mine just downloaded the game. I want to play with him in another server. My question is: if i choose a new home world, can i still rejoin SFR even if it’s full?

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Posted by: Deniara Devious.3948

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For a while now, Seafarer’s Rest and Kodash[DE] has been the only 2 european servers that have been marked as full. Before that the top 8 or so servers were marked as full, but all were sometimes marked as Very High for a bit.

Seafarer’s Rest have had bunch of active wvw players leave, now an entire guild that moved to Desolation.

World population status seems to be locked atm.

I don’t think the world status is locked. Most likely explanation is that SFR simply still has more players than the “very full” servers. The developer said that some servers were well above the “full” status, meaning that even after significant number of players leave that server, it would still be classified as full. SFR has been the #1 target of band wagoners for couple of years now. Despite the mass exodus of SFR players to FSP, the player base must still be huge.

The formula which determines which server is full or “very high” etc. probably takes into account the number of players who do some WvWvW activity during any given time unit (day, hour etc). I don’t think the Points per Tick actually affect it. The win is mainly determined by combination of the following: coverage, number of players and persistence for PpT type of play (defense, upgrading, scouting, pvd).

As you can see from http://gw2wvw.org/?region=2&tier=1 that enemy servers usually focus on Desolation more than each other. This is what the statistics say. Despite the obvious double focus, Desolation is now rank #1 in EU. In my honest opinion, this has very simple explanation. We have a lot of players, just like me, who play for Points per Tick (PpT). Often when I have commanded our tick has been over 300 despite having the outnumbered “buff” on us.

Here at Desolation we generally don’t have any queues to any map, besides the typical 10-30 man queue to EB at prime time. We often have outnumbered “buff” on the borderlands, including home border at prime time. The outnumbered “buff” is very common during day time as well. I rarely ever play at night, so I cannot comment that.

So from my point of view, the fact that SFR and Kodash have “full” status and Deso has “very high” status is not necessarily a frozen status, miscalculation or wrongly working formula. It might be simply that the full servers truly have larger player base, but care less about the points.

Last thing: You cannot transfer to full servers. You can only wish and wait that they become “very high” and then use the window of opportunity to transfer before they are full. I would not be surprised if Desolation, Jade Sea and FSP soon become full. At least here on Desolation were are getting new players and guilds. We are now feeling what it means to be the target of band wagoning.

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

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Probably was good idea let all new players go in one server. Will be interesting see desolation queues after HoT launch when f2p, returning players and bandwagoners clog maps.

One thing anet. It’s kind of ridiculous that our guild that have been SFR since launch can’t even get couple guildmates in server. I understand that these bandwagon WvW guilds that change server once in month can’t get players in, but we should have right to get at least 20 players and transfers should be free.

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Posted by: morrolan.9608

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Guys i know it’s a little OT but i dont know where to ask. I’m playing since ages in Seafarer’s Rest, but a friend of mine just downloaded the game. I want to play with him in another server. My question is: if i choose a new home world, can i still rejoin SFR even if it’s full?

No

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