Guild Wars 2

Simply a place to discuss the changes specific to WvW. To spare you having to trawl the whole thread (Found at https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-January-28-2013/first#post1307769 if you want to trawl it anyway) I’ll just sum up specific parts here for discussion.

World vs. World

Character load times in WvW have been improved through the use of preloaded placeholder models.

World vs. World

Siege is no longer usable while inside a WvW jumping puzzle.
Multiple areas have had their terrain adjusted to prevent players from bypassing gates and walls to get into objectives.
Superior siege will now be saved properly when maps restart.
In WvW, different types of loot chests will replace the bag drop depending on loot rarity. Players should now see bags for loot that is lower than uncommon rarity and chests for loot that is uncommon rarity or higher.

Oh yes, and Golems in a Box are no longer usable in WvW. While it’s comparatively small, I say YAY.

But have they fixed the one thing we all want:

The ability to kick an offline player from your team whilst in WvW?!!!

I’m wondering about the loot bag vs chest change. Is this to help you decide if it’s worth running into back into a zerg to pick up your loot? Seems an odd change!

Lame update, where is all the love for WvW???

I don’t understand the loot chest thing. Does this mean chests are going to spawn at my feet now or are they going to spawn when we take towers and the what not?

It’s so you won’t have to loot crap from every corpse just to see what it is – and if you die with 3 bags around you, you won’t cry now… but if you die with 3 chests around your corpse… commence crying

Looks like although this contains some WvW patches, there is still going to be a WvW patch next month.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/january-2013/

More Upgrades and Improvements

We’re making a ton of other improvements to the game this month, such as enhanced performance in WvW, tweaks to the dynamic level adjustment system, and UI improvements, which will be detailed in our release notes.

No siege in the jumping puzzle! That will be interesting

I’m surprised nobody noticed the BIG thing at the top of the list. Preloaded placeholder models. THIS COULD BE A BLOW AGAINST CULLING.

After all, culling was caused when too much info on characters was pushed through the line at once, causing a backup, causing culling. Placeholder models essentially says “Yes, there’s something here. We don’t know WHAT but it’s something.”

So you may not know the composition of the enemy force, but you’ll at least know there’s 30 of them about to zerg over your little squad of 2.

Chessrook.8643:

Placeholder models essentially says “Yes, there’s something here. We don’t know WHAT but it’s something.”

If this works, I don’t care if the placeholder is a giant pinata, just show me where its at.

But but but… is that all?

Frenk.5917:

But but but… is that all?

I thought the WvW patch was planned for late february?

Boomstin.3460:

Frenk.5917:

But but but… is that all?

I thought the WvW patch was planned for late february?

It is…this isn’t it.

Will there still be badges in the loot bags?

Big WvW patch is next month people. Quit complaining. This patch was to introduce another world event and bugs/fixes.

I’m just sad the JP wasn’t taken out of WvW lol

How big is this patch supposed to be?

Wow…sooo much for WvW…NOT

I downloaded over 5700 files

They can take the siege out of the jumping puzzle, but they can’t take the zerg out of WvW!

World vs. World
Multiple areas have had their terrain adjusted to prevent players from bypassing gates and walls to get into objectives.

I can’t believe people are glossing over this. Hopefully we are done with the ‘“X’ server glitched into our keep and stole it!!!!"

mine was 1.13GB

Why all the complaining? This was never billed as the WvW patch, next month was.

Burl.9567:

Why all the complaining? This was never billed as the WvW patch, next month was.

Cause this is the WvW forum, and as such, much QQ is bound to happen :P

Beyondthelol.9504:

Burl.9567:

Why all the complaining? This was never billed as the WvW patch, next month was.

Cause this is the WvW forum, and as such, much QQ is bound to happen :P

Silly me…what was I thinking? Please disregard my post.

Well it’s kind of natural people think that WvWvW upgrade comes before some PvE stuff.

Burl.9567:

Why all the complaining? This was never billed as the WvW patch, next month was.

Complaining trumps reading.

Even if this wasn’t the WvW patch I was expecting something more, like the AoE nerf or WvW daily.

Frenk.5917:

Even if this wasn’t the WvW patch I was expecting something more, like the AoE nerf or WvW daily.

Maybe that’ll be in the WvW patch… which isnt this.

Chessrook.8643:

I’m surprised nobody noticed the BIG thing at the top of the list. Preloaded placeholder models. THIS COULD BE A BLOW AGAINST CULLING.

After all, culling was caused when too much info on characters was pushed through the line at once, causing a backup, causing culling. Placeholder models essentially says “Yes, there’s something here. We don’t know WHAT but it’s something.”

So you may not know the composition of the enemy force, but you’ll at least know there’s 30 of them about to zerg over your little squad of 2.

Sadly this does little to solve the main issue of having a total asset cap. This patch only helps those on slow machines to see the limited assets faster. It does not solve the problem of invisible enemies at all.

Everyone is killing krait now

Ironvos.9014:

Everyone is killing krait now

Why?

Ninein.4782:

Ironvos.9014:

Everyone is killing krait now

Why?

Daily

I hate that world transfers cost money now. I’m on a mostly dead server and I haven’t played this game for months because of it. New patch comes along, and now it costs money to transfer servers. Bleh.

Mylon.4135:

I hate that world transfers cost money now. I’m on a mostly dead server and I haven’t played this game for months because of it. New patch comes along, and now it costs money to transfer servers. Bleh.

You are in a tiny minuscule minority

Mylon.4135:

I hate that world transfers cost money now. I’m on a mostly dead server and I haven’t played this game for months because of it. New patch comes along, and now it costs money to transfer servers. Bleh.

They announced it in advance you had the opportunity to move.

why make this game more pve sentric and less pvp friendly. now i have to do a crafting daily and i don’t do crafting or pve so i guess i will be looking another game to play

prayerless.9052:

why make this game more pve sentric and less pvp friendly. now i have to do a crafting daily and i don’t do crafting or pve so i guess i will be looking another game to play

Gather some Copper Ore while running around in WvW, it doesn’t take long and you can do it as you go from “objective to objective”. Go to your server BL, hit up the crafting stations there and refine those ores into ingots. Sell those ingots on the Trading Post, use the money you earn over time to buy upgrades or siege, etc. Done in a couple minutes time, while you are doing WvW. I didn’t find it to be that big a deal.

Just confirmed they didn’t fix the glitch spots in Bay or Hills.

So any opinions on whether the patch improved the culling / model loading delay in WvW?

I`m not really sure, but rendering characters that come out of stealth is a lot worse for me atm. Was outside Bay, got jumped and it took a lot more than usual to display the character attacking me. There weren`t many people in that area, probably around 5, so i wonder what could be the cause. Stealth was broken before in wvw but not to this extent. I`m hoping it was just the servers lagging, I really hope wvw wont be like this, there are enough thieves running around already. Did any of you guys experience the same problem ?
Haven`t had the chance to see a portal bomb yet, i`m really curious if the rendering issues are gone.

nalenb.1425:

Just confirmed they didn’t fix the glitch spots in Bay or Hills.

So what terrain glitches did they fix? Bizarre to fix some but not the 2 most prominent and abused glitches.

Kaleden.9386:

So any opinions on whether the patch improved the culling / model loading delay in WvW?

I’m also very interested in hearing if there has been any improvements to this and will be at work all day so I cant check for myself. That’s pretty much #1 for me… actually being able to see the enemy

prayerless.9052:

why make this game more pve sentric and less pvp friendly. now i have to do a crafting daily and i don’t do crafting or pve so i guess i will be looking another game to play

They also said that the daily would rotate so it’s not going to be the same every day and soon there will be a system that lets you chose X number of things to do from a list of Y achievements, which should make it easier to get in WvW (oh, and before this patch WvW was the easiest way to get the daily done)

So far I’ve noticed a big improvement in culling, I can actually see large amount of my enemy now from a distance this definitely makes a huge difference. It’s no longer about who can surprise who most with culling anymore it’s about tactics, So much fun!

Also, even though it says it counts for PvE as well I still can’t see people in Lion’s Arch till I’m on top of them (pretty much) so I guess it was only implemented in WvW.

I’ve also noticed a large increase in bags/loot dropping, I’m getting bags a lot easier now which is great, it was desperately needed (as well as the new chests, they drop like the loot bags but are bigger and obviously chest shaped, I guess it makes it easier to see them and so you are more inclined to go for them first).

So sure, these two things aren’t massive updates but the improvement in rewards and culling are massive improvements on their own (In my opinion anyway).

Now Anet are saying in the future you dailies will be a set number from a list of possible achievements, but atm you are tuck having to do the ones given to you.

So the question is, which WvW player will be doing crafting whilst WvWing?! I spend 99% of my time in WvW and such a achievement being required for WvW players is ridiculous.. People in my guild have already said that maybe instead of doing all 5, that you should be able to get the daily from 4/5 from teh list given to you.

What is there to discuss really?

To me the culling issue didn’t get any improvement at all.
Just now fighting a 20+ zerg, they suddenly appeared within melee range in front of my face (I didn’t get hit either so I guess none of them can see me before I see them as well).
BTW, I was kicked out from wvw 3x times in last hour.
The new patch is an epic fail (at least for wvw part)???

I think the ire at the new daily achievement is misplaced. I don’t believe this achievement was ever meant to be easy to do through PvP or WvW, the tasks have always been PvE ones.

I find it perfectly reasonable that you won’t be able to do it if you are not willing to get into PvE even a little bit, the same way it is perfectly reasonable that PvE players fail all the PvP dailies / monthlies if they are unwilling to PvP.

What really is missing, and I’m with you on that, is a WvW daily/monthly. Since at the moment the three major game types of GW2 are PvE, PvP and WvW, it would really be nice to have WvW oriented repeatables too. I am rather hoping that the February big WvW patch will address that.

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

Now Anet are saying in the future you dailies will be a set number from a list of possible achievements, but atm you are tuck having to do the ones given to you.

So the question is, which WvW player will be doing crafting whilst WvWing?! I spend 99% of my time in WvW and such a achievement being required for WvW players is ridiculous.. People in my guild have already said that maybe instead of doing all 5, that you should be able to get the daily from 4/5 from teh list given to you.

Anet already said that doing all the paths for the daily wont be required when the system is done. For example you have 7 daily paths, but you only have to do 5 to complete it.

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

So the question is, which WvW player will be doing crafting whilst WvWing?! I spend 99% of my time in WvW and such a achievement being required for WvW players is ridiculous..

Go to you home BL citadel and craft away. Seriously 20 ore into 10 ingots = done in like .5 seconds.