Guild Wars 2

I’m not seeing the difference from before when adjusting the options at all. Has anyone else been experiencing this? People keep rendering only after i’m next to them.

Also it might be just me but i think the zoom is a little adjusted so you can zoom out a little more?

P.S. The titles that are showing for every char are crazy, i just wanna turn them off.

Go into your options > graphics … the adjustment is near the bottom. It appears to work for me well, I’m seeing the entire zerg.

Im seeing a lot of whining and screaming about skins.
No one is talking about the removal of culling.

I’d like to assume that culling is, in fact, totally fixed then? Since no one’s whining about it?

Im stuck at work . Can anyone confirm that culling is a thing of the past. Can you see the enemy zerg coming at you from 1500+ range?

Culling has not been -removed-

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

Im seeing a lot of whining and screaming about skins.
No one is talking about the removal of culling.

I’d like to assume that culling is, in fact, totally fixed then? Since no one’s whining about it?

Im stuck at work . Can anyone confirm that culling is a thing of the past. Can you see the enemy zerg coming at you from 1500+ range?

WvW is down at the moment, so no one can really get in and test it out. It’s also WvW only so we can’t test it in PVE in the meantime.

nahj.2870:

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

Im seeing a lot of whining and screaming about skins.
No one is talking about the removal of culling.

I’d like to assume that culling is, in fact, totally fixed then? Since no one’s whining about it?

Im stuck at work . Can anyone confirm that culling is a thing of the past. Can you see the enemy zerg coming at you from 1500+ range?

WvW is down at the moment, so no one can really get in and test it out. It’s also WvW only so we can’t test it in PVE in the meantime.

VoTF got in for about 30min prior to WvW being taken down. Culling has improved while we were having a 3 way but its has not been removed from the game at all. You can see 1500+ range with enemies but not if there is a kitten ton of them on screen culling is still quite selective and sometimes you cannot see enemies or their name plates.

Culling is removed (It’s a Server Side Issue).

Graphical Rendering Delays are better with the changes if you lower the settings but still exist, especially for lower-end machines.

Two separate issues often confused by players.

The fact it says “nameplates still appear for all characters” is either misleading or untrue.
It is noticeably better though.

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

Culling is removed (It’s a Server Side Issue).

Graphical Rendering Delays are better with the changes if you lower the settings but still exist, especially for lower-end machines.

Two separate issues often confused by players.

Culling is -not- removed. There is a universal limit on all servers of 300 I believe, in addition whether it is server side or client side if there is still a phase in and out you can call it what you wish but it is still -culling-.

I also got in before WvW crashed and can’t see a enemy zerg from distance better. The changes seem to fix only that the characters don’t disappear when they are rendered near me like before.

Aneu.1748:

Culling is -not- removed. There is a universal limit on all servers of 300 I believe, in addition whether it is server side or client side if there is still a phase in and out you can call it what you wish but it is still -culling-.

There is (in every game in existence) a “Max Render Distance” for how far away objects (including character models) are graphically displayed. They never said they were removing that.

What they did do is change how the Server updates Clients with nearby player/object information. Before that information was “throttled” Server-side, ie “Culled” and it no longer is.

So yes, Culling IS removed but also yes Client Side Graphical Rendering delays will still exist.

Aneu.1748:

Culling is -not- removed. There is a universal limit on all servers of 300 I believe

Seeing as the population cap for a given WvW map is lower than 300… what’s the problem?

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Aneu.1748:

Culling is -not- removed. There is a universal limit on all servers of 300 I believe

Seeing as the population cap for a given WvW map is lower than 300… what’s the problem?

Pets/clones/NPC’s

Don’t get me wrong, it is far better than it was and view distance is far better but it has not been “removed” so to speak.

Aneu.1748:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Aneu.1748:

Culling is -not- removed. There is a universal limit on all servers of 300 I believe

Seeing as the population cap for a given WvW map is lower than 300… what’s the problem?

Pets/clones/NPC’s

Don’t get me wrong, it is far better than it was and view distance is far better but it has not been “removed” so to speak.

You’re too caught up in semantics, relax.

If there’s really 300 characters/pets/NPCs on the screen, what are the chances you would be able to notice that 301st person? If there were that many people there your skills wouldn’t work anyway so to me culling is no longer an issue in any situation.

So just to clarify (I’m stuck at work) you can see up to 300 players CLOSE TO YOU, but you still can’t see a giant zerg coming over the hill in the distance?

Revans.2018:

Aneu.1748:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Aneu.1748:

Culling is -not- removed. There is a universal limit on all servers of 300 I believe

Seeing as the population cap for a given WvW map is lower than 300… what’s the problem?

Pets/clones/NPC’s

Don’t get me wrong, it is far better than it was and view distance is far better but it has not been “removed” so to speak.

You’re too caught up in semantics, relax.

If there’s really 300 characters/pets/NPCs on the screen, what are the chances you would be able to notice that 301st person? If there were that many people there your skills wouldn’t work anyway so to me culling is no longer an issue in any situation.

After playing for 30min after servers came up we had around 40 people in WvW from Deso, there were similar numbers from SFR and Viz around our tower. My point is that there is still “phasing” involved and the “name plates only” option isnt actually an option just yet, name plates render first then the players after – there isnt an option to just have name plates only.

We engaged SFR first only to not see any Vizunah move towards us until we moved away and they “phased” in then we engaged them and more SFR phased in right on top of us. There was also a situation where Viz had ranged players sitting near the tower that werent “phasing” in at all. There is still plenty to do but it is much better.

Aneu.1748:

GrandmaFunk.3052:

Aneu.1748:

Culling is -not- removed. There is a universal limit on all servers of 300 I believe

Seeing as the population cap for a given WvW map is lower than 300… what’s the problem?

Pets/clones/NPC’s

Don’t get me wrong, it is far better than it was and view distance is far better but it has not been “removed” so to speak.

Culling is removed. Deal with it. What you have now is a decision by the system what to render. Over 300 default is nameplates only. Then there’s the values for full rendering and low qual rendering.

You’ll see everyone. It’s what you see of everyone that has been changed.

I have to say great job – I see EVERYONE now Allies load kinda a bit later but the enemies – all are visible.
Thanks a lot for this update

I believe now the primary issue lies in your own computer’s specs and how much you are able to handle at any given time. Better systems will see more players at once and at farther distances where as more kittenty systems will feel like the old pre-patch culling.

Umm.. Wow! That culling fix is amazing!

DBR.9876:

Umm.. Wow! That culling fix is amazing!

That’s impressive!

Thanks for the screenshot. This game just got real.

DBR.9876:

Umm.. Wow! That culling fix is amazing!

Holy young cat! Thanks for posting a screenshot, that’s very promising
I can’t wait to get home and try this out now.
Keep the screenshots coming guys

That looks scary, not sure I want to see it now, lol

Um yea, I think it’s safe to say the culling fixed worked. Holy basket of cute kittens at that screenshot.

What I want to know is if big groups will still phase in right on top of you or if you’ll actually see them load in from far away.

Single players were phasing in 20 feet away every single time. In fact, that was pretty much the norm in WvW for weeks. Is this finally fixed? Or does this change mean this stupidity still happens but now we can have more people on screen?

chrisk.4320:

Um yea, I think it’s safe to say the culling fixed worked. Holy basket of cute kittens at that screenshot.

Same for me. I have a beefy machine and its just looks absolutely ridiculous now seeing EVERYTHING.

EvilSardine.9635:

What I want to know is if big groups will still phase in right on top of you or if you’ll actually see them load in from far away.

Single players were phasing in 20 feet away every single time. In fact, that was pretty much the norm in WvW for weeks. Is this finally fixed? Or does this change mean this stupidity still happens but now we can have more people on screen?

After this fix, that shouldn’t happen anymore.

Had a similar sized battle to that screenshot. We lost but it was freaking epic. All those people and not one bit of skill lag either.

EvilSardine.9635:

What I want to know is if big groups will still phase in right on top of you or if you’ll actually see them load in from far away.

Single players were phasing in 20 feet away every single time. In fact, that was pretty much the norm in WvW for weeks. Is this finally fixed? Or does this change mean this stupidity still happens but now we can have more people on screen?

I think they fixed that too. I mean, in that screenshot I am seeing people on the walls, much further than 20 feet.

Someone post a screenshot of the max distance at which you can see the zerg.

And here’s another nice screenshot.

time to sort out that new computer then…..

Holy crap!!! So thats what wvw is actually suppose to look like!!!

Amazing!!! Thank you A-Net!!!

These streams shows the epicness of non-culling very well: (SM)

http://www.twitch.tv/warlegend
http://www.twitch.tv/chemsorly

That really looks great, thanks for the screen shots. Now if we can only got the text above shortened to just Guild tags or names, the whole “[server name] Invader” makes it too busy in my opinion.

For those saying the patch didnt work…well it did for me. This is on medium/medium settings.

After uninstalling and reinstalling my “phasing” issue seems to be fixed!

http://i.imgur.com/m6CWMQG.jpg

Holy kitten, true epic battles, let’s rock

Name tags are kind of obscene with that many players, although I guess it’s that way in any MMO.

Maybe they could make them less large though.

Edit – Scale name tags so the farther away the smaller the tag becomes.

I’d say it worked! Now I finally know what I’m getting in to.

DBR.9876:

Umm.. Wow! That culling fix is amazing!

Thats a small JQ group, wait until Foo and the Oceanics/Sea show up with their * 40. *
The culling fix is sweet other than the titles but it sure was nice watching 60 SoR run back to their Garrison from Cliffs even though they don’t have coverage in EU

I’ll be having blob nightmares

DBR.9876:

Umm.. Wow! That culling fix is amazing!

Whoa! What are your settings, and PC config DBR?

Thanks!

Yea its fixed at the cost of a bit of lag though.

Qiko.2461:

DBR.9876:

Umm.. Wow! That culling fix is amazing!

Whoa! What are your settings, and PC config DBR?

Thanks!

I know I’m running on High graphics minus shadows, Medium WvW and everything is great!

Its a race to take a picture of the biggest zergs.

…Now I must find more epic sound tracks

btw, how is stealth now?

I only got a decent comp yet i can handle the culling settings on max no problem. Its fixed if you ask me, i even made a lil video showing it (and a fight or two as showing JUST mass ammount of people felt a bit strange)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F_t662i3bk

Thanks Anet <3

Gamblit.5041:

WvW Character Limit – Medium
WvW Character Render – Low

3 side battle FA vs KN vs TC looks like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-W0ex_JBB8

We also had Karas from Anet joining us for that assualt on the Bay.

And btw your video is set to private, open it up or we cant see : p

Culling fix seems to have worked. Im confident now that if i rambo into one player it doesnt turn into 30 now.

Ty anet good work