Guild Wars 2

What is your thoughts and ideas?

What you think needs to be improved?

Give your response and please keep it clean so maybe ArenaNet will see it and get some ideas for WvW.

remove nothing

add the following

scores only count if not outnumbered.

reset a whole map after 24 hours based on reset time.

help in packet loss issues.

wvw tourney

Sovereign.1093:

remove nothing

add the following

scores only count if not outnumbered.

reset a whole map after 24 hours based on reset time.

help in packet loss issues.

wvw tourney

+1 the facerolling by overwhelming numbers is killing the game mode. too many are quitting wvw over it.

(They wont change nothing besides, some numbers in the code as ppt, ppk, besides clueless in what to do even if they knew what to change they dont have the power for that.)

They need to end ppt, ppk, score system, besides making pve classes spam “complexity” overstacking spam is also nail in a pvp structure game, some skill need rules when in a pvp oriented map that would help to reduce the lag skill…for a start.
Redesign wvw…. to something simple, that can be tweaked and improved.

Kamara.4187:

Sovereign.1093:

remove nothing

add the following

scores only count if not outnumbered.

reset a whole map after 24 hours based on reset time.

help in packet loss issues.

wvw tourney

+1 the facerolling by overwhelming numbers is killing the game mode. too many are quitting wvw over it.

Yes this the single largest issue. Class balance issues are minor when compared to the overwhelming numbers that one side can muster against another.

It can be impossible step out a gate and not find a blob looking for someone, anyone to kill. This just leads to more of that outnumbered side staying away which in turn leads to even larger population advantages.

The worst of it is oftimes an outnumbered server can try to muster poeple form across all maps just to get enough to put a decent sized group together, enter a map where they might get one or two decent fights in, only to see the enemy BLOB follow because BLOB is tried of killing NPCs.

I really think they have to look at lowering map population sizes significantly. If those people want to jump servers just to get on the ones with the largest blob, they can sit in map queue’s.

Really, can having a max population per map of 30 and then unlinking servers really make things worse? If there too many waiting in queues in specific tiers with that cap then add an extra vanilla map for that tier. 2 EBG types and a BL each would still work while the lower tiers, those having less population in WvW can run with the existing maps at the 30 cap.

At least this way if one server can only pull together 20 or 30 total, they can focus one map and still have some sort of fun with fights while not worrying about the PPTs. As it is they can not even do that.

pointaction.4639:

What is your thoughts and ideas?

What you think needs to be improved?

Give your response and please keep it clean so maybe ArenaNet will see it and get some ideas for WvW.

I think its time for Anet to really try and make Tier 1 fun for other servers than just BG. The other two servers should each have a much larger alliance server. For example, SoS should have say, YB and FA should have JQ or something like that. Really swing the balance of power when you push other servers to Tier 1 because, as it stands, both FA and SoS are wearing out pretty quickly to BG. I’m sure the bags are fun for a few days for BG, but I bet it gets a bit old ALWAYS being on top by such a large margin.

I think they actually found the answer to this quite a while ago. I think it was midway through last year one of the developers floated the idea on the forum that servers should be smaller and that there should be more of them, as this would make it easier to create linksets that are healthy for balance. They abandoned the idea because of a lack of interest.

I’m fairly certain that if they used that idea and pushed it a little harder, they would actually have what they need to create an environment in which populations can be balanced. With that in mind:

- Permanently close ‘core’ servers; the servers which are linked to rather than linking to other servers. This immediately creates incentive for players to reshuffle; if you are on a major server and are asking for it to be opened so that you can play with friends, you have a definitive answer- you must move to a link server.
- Free server transfers from core servers to link servers. There is no longer a monetary penalty for moving from a core server to a link server. Link servers are a good thing for balance and there should be every incentive to move there.
- Smaller link servers. Smaller servers mean more varied configurations for better balanced matchups.
- More link servers. Necessary with smaller link servers.

Optionally;

- Higher rewards for ‘outmanned’ servers in a match, and higher rewards for all players in a ‘fair’ match. If skirmish rewards are going to have meat on them they cannot incentivize stacking.
- Shorter linksets. Servers will be more readily reshuffled to account for playercount changes.
- Limited time windows for server transfers and increased glicko volatility during this window.

Matters of good sense:

- WvW needs relevant rewards to support its playerbase.
- Power of the Mists is an incentive for stacking and should be revised.

Fun will begin with relinking. Good luck to all that transfered to links. Can’t stop laughing.

Bhima.9518:

pointaction.4639:

What is your thoughts and ideas?

What you think needs to be improved?

Give your response and please keep it clean so maybe ArenaNet will see it and get some ideas for WvW.

I think its time for Anet to really try and make Tier 1 fun for other servers than just BG. The other two servers should each have a much larger alliance server. For example, SoS should have say, YB and FA should have JQ or something like that. Really swing the balance of power when you push other servers to Tier 1 because, as it stands, both FA and SoS are wearing out pretty quickly to BG. I’m sure the bags are fun for a few days for BG, but I bet it gets a bit old ALWAYS being on top by such a large margin.

while the basic thought makes some sense, doubt any of fa, sos, yb or jq want to be guest servers whose glicko isn’t tracked… that is aside from the fact that yb doesn’t want anything to do with t1 anyway….

I’d rather blow-up the servers altogether (as long my guild lands on the same server) with no servers exceeding the pop cap…

Another idea for outmanned buff. You drop nothing when killed or experience. So, no war score points, no armor damage, no experience granted to opposing players, no reward(drops) to opposing players.

Lower the map cap by 10% for next match after a server dominates a match.

Lower the map cap of the dominating population when another side is outmanned.

Lower map caps all around, bring back 4 map queues.

The one thing that will reduce the population decline overall is:
Make it so a smaller, well organized force, has a chance to defeat another force that’s 2, 3, or 4 times larger. This is known as skill balance.

Bhima.9518:

I think its time for Anet to really try and make Tier 1 fun for other servers than just BG. The other two servers should each have a much larger alliance server. For example, SoS should have say, YB and FA should have JQ or something like that.

And ruin the fun for all the other tiers? No thank you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

Do nothing as usual well it’s been 5 years why expect something when the game mode is on life support. I mean im a dedicated WVW player. I have dropped my gameplay time in 1/3 of what it used to be. Im less and less interested in GW2 in general. I do not think i have much time left around here. All i love is WVW. Seems like i think i’ve done my part in waiting for them for hmmm 4 years +?

They haven’t done a n y t h i n g significant since 2012. They have released an expansion which didn’t sell well. Lost a lot of core members. The ones like us that stick with them and paid premium for it aren’t satisfied. Im not talking about a small portion. Ask around : I’d say 90% of all wvw would say it needs a total revamp.
They haven’t mention wvw in months almost a year. Haven’t really done anything other than add synthesizer which to me is useless.

I guess it’s fun if you have the funds to transfer every matcheup. Besides that if you are dedicated to your server. You better be used to condi bombs , portal bombs , in 60-100 vs 10 fights.

Chaba.5410:

Bhima.9518:

I think its time for Anet to really try and make Tier 1 fun for other servers than just BG. The other two servers should each have a much larger alliance server. For example, SoS should have say, YB and FA should have JQ or something like that.

And ruin the fun for all the other tiers? No thank you.

How would that ruin the other tiers? The alliance would only last as long as these conditions are met:
1) in Tier 1
2) The end score for the week isn’t completely lopsided

As the other servers drop back down to Tier 2 or 3, they go back to the smaller server alliance or none like we have right now.

Bhima.9518:

Chaba.5410:

Bhima.9518:

I think its time for Anet to really try and make Tier 1 fun for other servers than just BG. The other two servers should each have a much larger alliance server. For example, SoS should have say, YB and FA should have JQ or something like that.

And ruin the fun for all the other tiers? No thank you.

How would that ruin the other tiers? The alliance would only last as long as these conditions are met:
1) in Tier 1
2) The end score for the week isn’t completely lopsided

As the other servers drop back down to Tier 2 or 3, they go back to the smaller server alliance or none like we have right now.

Creating something like SoS+YB and FA+JQ would essentially remove a large chunk of the playing population from the rest of the tiers. Not only would that not work due to the nightmare queues it would produce, especially during NA, but also server link changes do not happen on-the-fly just because a team rolled a specific tier match. Other servers would be crushed, which would lead to large disparities in Glicko between the tiers again and “dead” servers. No thank you.

The real issue is that BG’s past login blackouts to get around the old Full status produced a server today that is stuck with a large number of casual players that don’t normally transfer to other servers with a guild so it has a really difficult time of shedding population to bring it more in line with the population on the rest of the servers.

The moderator who keeps locking these threads has no idea what a real “match-up” thread is. I guess they weren’t around back when they actually existed.

These current threads are to discuss an issue with the match MAKING. Stop silencing us when we try to get our voices heard.

I can say the current issue does revolve around the adjustments that were made to Maguuma’s rating. -100 glicko rating was removed from Maguuma, thus causing the matches we currently see.

There as much to crtique the playerbase for the current status of WvW as there is ANET.

It understood that ANET makes money off player transfers from one server to the next but those players that are bouncing around server to server just because they want to “win” should have the least to complain about. It like a blob of 40 complaining that 5 do not come out to fight them. You know maybe if there only 10 of in your group they would give it a go?

The simple fact is this. There are people that like to run in the zergs of 40 plus and consider it fun. There are people that consider fun 1v1 and those that love those 20 vs 20 or 10 or 30 as the most fun. I orginally supported server linking and no longer can as it sems it just forcing a single type of match and that one that is all about numbers and blob fights.

I just do not find those interesting at all. I do not mind that others prefer that style, I just do not think we should all be forced into that style.

BG at the top has resulted in servers with higher populations deliberately tanking so that they can drop to a lower tier so they can have what they consider more FUN fights even as those servers delibarately tanking ruin the tiers below them making it less fun for others.

I personally do not think that the gamemode callled WvW needs ever more attention or enhancements or more content . The core of it is excellent and IMHO can work with little in the way of resources to support it IF the issue of poplations and preferred game modes addressed. This is not simpy about ensuring the population of players on all servers or groups of servers equalized. It is just as much about as ensuring WvW provides choices for the player base that does not want to involve itslf in ruuning with the largest group possible.

Vash.9183:

The moderator who keeps locking these threads has no idea what a real “match-up” thread is. I guess they weren’t around back when they actually existed.

These current threads are to discuss an issue with the match MAKING. Stop silencing us when we try to get our voices heard.

I can say the current issue does revolve around the adjustments that were made to Maguuma’s rating. -100 glicko rating was removed from Maguuma, thus causing the matches we currently see.

the one whos been letting threads to be locked are the ones who comments selfishly on the forums about their self and server

examples are:
-please reopen BG
-what happened to TC
-im from YB
-im the best here
-etc etc etc

and again and again, if Anet wanted to keep those s2pid glicko system be sure they make the matches balanced thru dynamic queuing on every timezone

people says if you want a balanced match go to pvp
i lul at those kind of people

We’re going to go ahead and close this thread, as match-up threads are not permitted on the forums