Guild Wars 2

Hi everybody,

This is a sub-topic thread from a parent thread found here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/New-Game-Mode-WvG-World-Vs-Globes/first#post6188906

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Reboot-the-Base-Map-Mechanic-Population/first#post5710744

Hi SleepingDragon,

Sounds like you’d like to expand this topic. I’m setting up this sub-topic thread to continue this discussion in detail here to keep the parent thread on topic about Reboot Base Map Mechanic & Population.

Appreciate your feedback.

Diku

Please keep it simple & not post paragraphs.

If you need a long paragraphs…it’s too complex.

Suggested Tweaks

1) Add HoT Glider ability to Map
2) Adjust Air based stairs to automatically help players land at the top of the stairs
3) Remove the big rock in the Northern Rampart area

Reserved for topic links.

Topic open for discussion.

SleepingDragon.1596:

I support that Diku is requesting changes to see if it helps WvW. But a simple fix in my opinion would be since these new maps are so large, why not add “gliding” into it? Only the borderland maps should have gliding. Look at the terrain and the size of these maps and tell me it wouldn’t promote quicker fights? Glide right into battle… Yes, you’ll need “HoT” to be able to glide. It’s not needed to play, but for gliding purposes it will be needed. It’ll maybe help sales of HoT for those who don’t already have it.

Reference post to start this discussion above.

Tweak suggestion:

Adjust Air based stairs to automatically help players land at the top of the stairs.

They should remove the big rock in the northen Garrison area. It would make a good place to have fights but as it is now there is just too much walls and chokes to move well. It creates a lot of problems with the targeting system and skills like Blink or Lightning Flash when you never know if these skills will work.

Xillllix.3485:

They should remove the big rock in the northen Garrison area. It would make a good place to have fights but as it is now there is just too much walls and chokes to move well. It creates a lot of problems with the targeting system and skills like Blink or Lightning Flash when you never know if these skills will work.

3) Remove the big rock in the Northern Rampart area

Diku.2546:

SleepingDragon.1596:

I support that Diku is requesting changes to see if it helps WvW. But a simple fix in my opinion would be since these new maps are so large, why not add “gliding” into it? Only the borderland maps should have gliding. Look at the terrain and the size of these maps and tell me it wouldn’t promote quicker fights? Glide right into battle… Yes, you’ll need “HoT” to be able to glide. It’s not needed to play, but for gliding purposes it will be needed. It’ll maybe help sales of HoT for those who don’t already have it.

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Reference post to start this discussion above.

(Didn’t really see your stance on the HoT gliding thing, Diku, so…) Gliding certainly shouldn’t be limited to HoT owners. WvW needs to be reasonably balanced gameplay with fair access to gameplay elements (only player skill/high-tier equipment really ought to depend on the individual). It could be awarded to WvW players as a WvW mastery/trait/skill/thing, but if it comes to marketing, the marketing point could be simply that non-HoT WvW players would have access to only one, basic glider (oh, and no access to gliding outside WvW).

Jealousy marketing (if used at all) should be limited to PvE, where it doesn’t give significant tactical advantages to some players over others.

@Swift

Listed it as a suggested tweak for ANet to finally decide. Just being the messenger.

Personally…I could go for having a Glider in WvW, but it would have to be earned.

I earned my skill in PvE…which was a horrible experience to go through to get it.

Players shouldn’t just get the skill…without having to put in time to earn it.

I’d venture to say players that you have to purchase HoT…much like the Specializations to get & use it.

How many times I’ve wanted to use my HoT Glider skill in the Desert Borderland when I was up high.

Desert Borderland does seem like it was created with Gliders in mind…the sheer height of vertical drops.

I’m sure we’ll have people crying foul on gliders providing too much of a tactical advantage in troop movement. Both offensive surges & defensive retreats.

Then pointing at the fact that ANet did it on purpose to sell HoT if you want to compete fairly in WvW.

I’m still trying to think on how players would use gliders in ways that the developers didn’t intend it to be used in WvW.

Gliders shouldn’t work when in a Golem btw.

No fly zone over areas that players try to super ninja attack an objective.

Deploying siege in places that it’s not supposed to be.