Guild Wars 2

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Chaba.5410:

morrolan.9608:

I have I think 14 amulets that I received WvW infusions back for most of my rings and accessories already have WvW infusions in them. Thats 70 laurels which is not insignificant.

Basically if you attune and infuse all your rings then you can stick those extra infusions into them. Yea, it means playing some Fractals. Some won’t do it.

To be fair you can attune a ring if you have mastery Fractal Attunement tier 2 unlocked without having to actually do fractals. It requires Agony Channeler to purchase the Agonized Essence to do it. But if you want to infuse as well for the third slot you will have to do fractals.

I know it isn’t the best answer but at least you have a chance for one extra slot without doing fractals if you can spare the mastery points. Also make sure you take any infusions out before doing so.

Hmm that doesn’t look too bad. I have all the fractal masteries, though I imagine some people might not.

However, Doesn’t that destroy any infusions in the ring when you infuse that stuff?

ArchonWing.9480:

Hmm that doesn’t look too bad. I have all the fractal masteries, though I imagine some people might not.

However, Doesn’t that destroy any infusions in the ring when you infuse that stuff?

Not if you remove the infusion first. You can do so by buying an infusion extractor device for 24 silver.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Infusion_Extraction_Device

Further reading:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attuned_equipment

Crafting an attuned ring will destroy all upgrades (including Infusions) in the original ring. The Infusions can be safely removed prior to Attunement by using an Infusion Extraction Device; and these Infusions can then be reapplied.

morrolan.9608:

I still don’t understand, what is an enrichment slot? Why are amulets different from rings and accessories all of which had the same infusion slots prior to this?

Answering my own question. From what I gather the enrichment slot is for what used to be utility infusions only. Reading between the lines the reason for not having an infusion slot in amulets is that it would give players too much agony resistance when combined with rings and accessories. So a fractal only issue affects WvW and PvE apart from fractals.

JustTrogdor.7892:

ArchonWing.9480:

Hmm that doesn’t look too bad. I have all the fractal masteries, though I imagine some people might not.

However, Doesn’t that destroy any infusions in the ring when you infuse that stuff?

Not if you remove the infusion first. You can do so by buying an infusion extractor device for 24 silver.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Infusion_Extraction_Device

Further reading:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attuned_equipment

Crafting an attuned ring will destroy all upgrades (including Infusions) in the original ring. The Infusions can be safely removed prior to Attunement by using an Infusion Extraction Device; and these Infusions can then be reapplied.

Thanks. So it looks like getting another infusion slot per ring isn’t too difficult and fairly cheap. About 50’ish silver per ring if I were to do the extractor.

Basically, you are saying for those like myself who do not do any fractals at all by choice;

I can buy the mastery line,
buy the +1 agony, ( from?)
buy the extraction device, and the agony essence,
and just add a slot to a ring without doing any fractals at all?

If this is correct and I can indeed get an additional ring slot by acquiring all the items I will do so and will be a boost up once I get around to refilling amulets..

I have plenty of mastery points as being a NON fractal runner I have no need to spend them on fractals or fractal blocked precursor mastery lines.

The +1 infusion is only 2 silver on the TP so that’s not an issue.

You need the proper fractal masteries to buy those things, but yes technically you wouldn’t have to do a fractal. The mastery is the 2nd one which would cost a grand total of 3 mastery points to get to. Not particularly horrific considering I never bothered with the legendary line.

Justine.6351:

Korgov.7645:

If they were serious about WvW they would introduce WvW Enrichments at the WvW Laurel vendor ASAP.

Brainstorming what the effects could be:

• Allows you to carry 5 more supplies (Legionnaire’s Enrichment)
• Deploy a superior quality siege build site when you deploy normal siege. If you deploy a superior quality or a guild blueprint the supply cost to build is reduced to normal siege level. (Commander’s Enrichment)
• Gain extra point of war score when you kill an enemy (Grunt’s Enrichment)
• Afflict Marked on all enemys within 600 radius (Scout’s Enrichment)

great idea!
*How about +25stacks of vulnerability to anything you call target on?
*How about weapons do +1000 dmg to doors AND walls?
*How about enemies who strike you take 10 stacks of burning for 5min?

The WvW enrichments should meet 2 criteria:

1. No combat bonuses
2. Usable in WvW context only

That way they would not affect other game modes, nor cause power creep and saltiness among players.

That extra damage on gates and walls would allow zergs to dig their way through keep walls without building any siege.

Though I am somewhat inclined to propose the following :P

• Upon entering Fractals you instantly take away all the loot and rewards from the entire instance for yourself – including other party members’. (WvW-Strikes-Back Enrichment)

How about this for a WvW Enrichment

Make +XP work on WXP

Seems kinda obvious :x

Justine.6351:

Chaba.5410:

morrolan.9608:

I have I think 14 amulets that I received WvW infusions back for most of my rings and accessories already have WvW infusions in them. Thats 70 laurels which is not insignificant.

Basically if you attune and infuse all your rings then you can stick those extra infusions into them. Yea, it means playing some Fractals. Some won’t do it.

Those are for agony infusions only I think.

There is no longer such a thing as “agony infusions” — just infusions. Some infusions have a stat bonus, some AR, some a combination. Any/all go in the same slots. That was not true before.

There were previously 3 kinds of amulets: defensive, offensive, and utility. Only the first two types had were comparable to accessories; amulets are the only trinket to have offered utility slots.

So we lost one slot that could accept one type of stat bonus (either offensive or defensive) and gained all the other slots — armor, weapons, and all the other trinkets have one type of slot now that accepts any infusion, not just defensive or offensive.

So again, in the short term it’s annoying because we have to readjust. In the long run, this is simpler and it will be easier for more people to buff up on preferred stats. And, as with previous changes to gear|stat|build set up, ANet usually doesn’t try to “compensate” us, since (from their point of view), we already received value from the gear.

tl;dr after some one-time annoyances (and relatively minor expenses), nearly everyone is going to end up with the opportunity for better stats to support their purpose.

JustTrogdor.7892:

ArchonWing.9480:

Hmm that doesn’t look too bad. I have all the fractal masteries, though I imagine some people might not.

However, Doesn’t that destroy any infusions in the ring when you infuse that stuff?

Not if you remove the infusion first. You can do so by buying an infusion extractor device for 24 silver.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Infusion_Extraction_Device

Further reading:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attuned_equipment

Crafting an attuned ring will destroy all upgrades (including Infusions) in the original ring. The Infusions can be safely removed prior to Attunement by using an Infusion Extraction Device; and these Infusions can then be reapplied.

Oh for kittens sake… :/

I just spent 35 laurels and overwrote 7 different infusions on weapons and trinkets all with resilient infusions last night before seeing that it is now possible to extract them cheaply first.

I don’t understand why people think this is cheaper and easier. You still have to get enough Fractal Relics to buy the mist essences (1 shard, 3 globs, and 5 vials) you need to turn an Ascended Ring into an Infused Ring.

From the INFUZ-5959 Vendor in the Fractals of the Mist, these essences cost:

• Vial of Condensed Mists Essence 32s + 30 Fractal Relics
• Glob of Coagulated Mists Essence 96s + 100 Fractal Relics
• Shard of Crystallized Mists Essence 2g 88s + 300 Fractal Relics

So, for to infuse one ring you need to spend 7g 36s (maximum – since you need to do fractals to get the relics, you might get these in a drop). You also need to have 750 fractal relics. Not sure how many you can get on run or how long it takes. I actually have done a few so have about 400 – a guildie wanted someone to fill out their party. I was next to useless, having no AR.

So, for one ring, not bad. For someone who, say, wants to infuse 5 rings, that’s a max of 36g 80s and a whopping 3750 fractal relics.

If you don’t do fractals at all, this is daunting. Why a Fractal Reward Track wasn’t added in WvW I have no idea.

misterman.1530:

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So, for one ring, not bad. For someone who, say, wants to infuse 5 rings, that’s a max of 36g 80s and a whopping 3750 fractal relics.

If you don’t do fractals at all, this is daunting. Why a Fractal Reward Track wasn’t added in WvW I have no idea.

Answering my own post. Apparently, you can “attune” an Ascended ring – which will cost almost nothing to do – and give you another slot:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attuned_equipment

misterman.1530:

I don’t understand why people think this is cheaper and easier. You still have to get enough Fractal Relics to buy the mist essences (1 shard, 3 globs, and 5 vials) you need to turn an Ascended Ring into an Infused Ring.

From the INFUZ-5959 Vendor in the Fractals of the Mist, these essences cost:

• Vial of Condensed Mists Essence 32s + 30 Fractal Relics
• Glob of Coagulated Mists Essence 96s + 100 Fractal Relics
• Shard of Crystallized Mists Essence 2g 88s + 300 Fractal Relics

So, for to infuse one ring you need to spend 7g 36s (maximum – since you need to do fractals to get the relics, you might get these in a drop). You also need to have 750 fractal relics. Not sure how many you can get on run or how long it takes. I actually have done a few so have about 400 – a guildie wanted someone to fill out their party. I was next to useless, having no AR.

So, for one ring, not bad. For someone who, say, wants to infuse 5 rings, that’s a max of 36g 80s and a whopping 3750 fractal relics.

If you don’t do fractals at all, this is daunting. Why a Fractal Reward Track wasn’t added in WvW I have no idea.

You are referring to the third step – attuned infused rings (3 infusion slots) or Infused rings (2 slot) carry over from old infusion system which had 1 reg infusion and 1 AR slot, now simply 2 slots.

It seems alot of wvw (non fractal) people would be more than happy with 2 slot rings.

If they, like me are running regular old ascended rings (1 infusion slot), upgrading to attuned (2 slot) looks to be the easiest route for a non or infrequent Fractal runner.

The jargon just gets lost with the recent patch. In order to get a 2 slot ring you can:

Get attuned (cheap method) https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attuned_Adelbern's_Royal_Signet_Ring

Or

Get infused (not so cheap)
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Adelbern's_Royal_Signet_Ring_

Alternately, once you get 2 slots, you can go for 3 with attuned infused (not cheap or easy) https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Attuned_Adelbern's_Royal_Signet_Ring_

Pulsefire Jayce.4753:

HazyDaisy.4107:

How often do you use Utility infusions in wvw?

We don’t. We got shafted by Anet, yet again, and will now have to choose between Magic Find or Karma.

Anet please make some enrichments that are for WvW ONLY. Stuff that will help us WvWers out, not this kitten PvE kitten.

That was a rhetorical response to the question “What do fractals have to do with wvw”. They don’t or didnt, but simplfying infusions, has every bit to do with anyone that runs ascended equipment. Putting the line about changes to upgrade slots for amulets in with the fractal section made no sense at first, but it’s continued proof that whenever there’s a big patch, we need to read all areas of the notes. Now, reading those notes, the placement makes sense, since AR specific slots were completely removed and that is fractal related.

As for wvw, yes, we were shafted, but, to the best of my remembrance, all amulets rewarded during previous story lines came with 1 Utility slot (never Offense/Defense). I earned 2 of those amulets and ran them un-graded on 2 of my wvw toons. I didn’t notice a difference in performance.

It would be nice to have wvw only enrichments, and we may some day, but for now, we can only go for an extra slot on our rings and use our extra infusions there.

WvW is always the lowest consideration on changes, what else is new.
Pretty stupid change, not going to bother arguing cause the pve department won’t change their minds on this.

Xenesis.6389:

WvW is always the lowest consideration on changes, what else is new.
Pretty stupid change, not going to bother arguing cause the pve department won’t change their minds on this.

What has changed for wvw? You end up with one extra slot:

• The amulet slot is lost (now for only Enrichments).
• You can get two more ring slots (by attuning), which requires fractal mastery, but no no fractal currency: one Agonized Essence (24s), 1 philosopher stone (1/6 spirit shard), & a single +1 agony infusion (avail on the TP).

Yes you do end up with one extra slot on the rings, when you get them attuned/infused.
Could have just as well dumped the extra slot on the amulet and called it a day. Instead we get this run around to pull kitten off rings, attune them then dump infusions back on.

Not going to bother going through 8 characters to do that. Not even going to bother with fractals anymore.

And if you want to infuse these things, you’ll have to extract whatever you had.

It’s annoying because we are having to deal with vertical progression in a context that doesn’t even involve anywhere but fractals and is so tedious. To be fair, I guess raids have eclipsed fractals and they started to become ded content if the stagnancy didn’t do the job already. Or the perpetually shrinking pool that always needs to find an excuse to kick people who can’t carry them.

And now off to attune 20 rings.

EDIT: Please make the laurel vendors in the open world sell those wvw infusions please. You do sell those ripoff siege already.