Guild Wars 2

Jayne.9251:

Red Daing.7804:

Tongku.5326:

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The only thing they did different is set the “full server” bar a bit lower, ….

Not really. The bar for linked servers has been halved according to :

[–]Anet-TylerB

Linked worlds have halved population caps. So any NA world that was at least 50% full pre-link, is now FULL. If we were to unlink them, they’d no longer be FULL.

That’s a bit misleading. 50% was the threshold. Some servers were higher than that by quite a bit.

It isn’t misleading, some people don’t understand the difference between population cap and active population.

Example
Default max cap is 1000, half the cap is 500
T1 active population is 800.
T1 is full.

T4 active popultion is 510
T4 is full too. Sucks to be T4.

Most people simply think Full as Full. Very simple minded way of thinking.

SkyShroud.2865:

Jayne.9251:

Red Daing.7804:

Tongku.5326:

….

The only thing they did different is set the “full server” bar a bit lower, ….

Not really. The bar for linked servers has been halved according to :

[–]Anet-TylerB

Linked worlds have halved population caps. So any NA world that was at least 50% full pre-link, is now FULL. If we were to unlink them, they’d no longer be FULL.

That’s a bit misleading. 50% was the threshold. Some servers were higher than that by quite a bit.

It isn’t misleading, some people don’t understand the difference between population cap and active population.

Example
Default max cap is 1000, half the cap is 500
T1 active population is 800.
T1 is full.

T4 active popultion is 510
T4 is full too. Sucks to be T4.

Most people simply think Full as Full. Very simple minded way of thinking.

We’ve had this discussion before and it frustrates you to the point where you start hurling insults, so I’ll try one last time.

The effort is to make it as unattractive as possible for people to super-stack the higher tiers. The only solution is to lock those servers because otherwise it will continue to be a stackfest. Opening up T4, for example, deprives the lower tiers from players — which are starting to see a revitalization with the server pairings.

It may suck to be T4, but T1 is already OVER-stacked for what Anet considers “normal” population — and they’ve locked those servers in order to encourage people to try other alternatives.

T1 players will likely not leave T1. But people quit playing. Others will try different servers. Eventually the flood of T1 will start to abate and return down to normal levels of “500” through attrition.

Jayne.9251:

SkyShroud.2865:

Jayne.9251:

Red Daing.7804:

Tongku.5326:

….

The only thing they did different is set the “full server” bar a bit lower, ….

Not really. The bar for linked servers has been halved according to :

[–]Anet-TylerB

Linked worlds have halved population caps. So any NA world that was at least 50% full pre-link, is now FULL. If we were to unlink them, they’d no longer be FULL.

That’s a bit misleading. 50% was the threshold. Some servers were higher than that by quite a bit.

It isn’t misleading, some people don’t understand the difference between population cap and active population.

Example
Default max cap is 1000, half the cap is 500
T1 active population is 800.
T1 is full.

T4 active popultion is 510
T4 is full too. Sucks to be T4.

Most people simply think Full as Full. Very simple minded way of thinking.

We’ve had this discussion before and it frustrates you to the point where you start hurling insults, so I’ll try one last time.

The effort is to make it as unattractive as possible for people to super-stack the higher tiers. The only solution is to lock those servers because otherwise it will continue to be a stackfest. Opening up T4, for example, deprives the lower tiers from players — which are starting to see a revitalization with the server pairings.

It may suck to be T4, but T1 is already OVER-stacked for what Anet considers “normal” population — and they’ve locked those servers in order to encourage people to try other alternatives.

T1 players will likely not leave T1. But people quit playing. Others will try different servers. Eventually the flood of T1 will start to abate and return down to normal levels of “500” through attrition.

I do not know what insult you are referring to until I look at your posts history which then I realize it is a intelligential one. I have already explained why that logic is flawed. I will use another simple explanation. Anet has set a goal to balance it within 6 months, that is saying that people gonna quit within 6 months, that’s not gonna happen. Not only that, the relinking isn’t a 100% will happen kind of event since it still subjective to community voting.

Futhermore, somewhere in this thread or other, I have typed a lengthy post. Is it faster to raise server population or is it faster to lower a server population. Attrition is a very lengthy process and it will not occur to just one server, it will occur to the entire game. It is way easier to raise server population by getting people to transfer with a much better incentive like free cost.

Having so many full servers sucks. I feel sorry for solo roamers and small havoc guilds that want to move.

With all the server volatility from the pairing (along with the upcoming pairing rotations), and the upper tier servers being on “full” status, some people are stuck in servers they no longer want to be in.

I realize that the rotations will change the matchups. Some of the matchups might improve, some might not. The issue is that with all this going on, according to some of my friends in other servers, the community they joined is not the community they are now. They want to move, and they can’t. Not a single person, and most definitely not a small guild.

The choice everyone had from the beginning of GW2 to transfer is disappearing, and we still don’t have answers about what is going to be done about this, if anything. I get that all this is to prevent server stacking, but solos and havocs are getting thrown under the bus, if they want to move to an upper tier solid server with a solid community that they want to join.

I know everyone is excited about WvW getting attention, but in the long run (and in my opinion) this server “full” situation is going to cause issues down the road.

Skynet.7201:

Having so many full servers sucks. I feel sorry for solo roamers and small havoc guilds that want to move.

Why feel bad for us roamer and havoc guilds?? The roaming in T1 and T2 isn’t as good as it is in T3 currently. We can all go to a server linked with a T3 server and the roaming is gooooooood. I’m on BP paired with FA right now and I’ve been having a blast roaming.

Jayne.9251:

We’ve had this discussion before and it frustrates you to the point where you start hurling insults, so I’ll try one last time.

SkyShroud.2865:

I do not know what insult you are referring to until I look at your posts history which then I realize it is a intelligential one.

lol, I’m not sure the comprehension problem lies with me.

SkyShroud.2865:

I have already explained why that logic is flawed.

And I don’t happen to agree with you. But I’m not going to call you unintelligential.

And this is not a cop out, but at a certain point you cut your losses and just stop engaging, particularly when you encounter concrete.

Jayne.9251:

Jayne.9251:

We’ve had this discussion before and it frustrates you to the point where you start hurling insults, so I’ll try one last time.

SkyShroud.2865:

I do not know what insult you are referring to until I look at your posts history which then I realize it is a intelligential one.

lol, I’m not sure the comprehension problem lies with me.

SkyShroud.2865:

I have already explained why that logic is flawed.

And I don’t happen to agree with you. But I’m not going to call you unintelligential.

And this is not a cop out, but at a certain point you cut your losses and just stop engaging, particularly when you encounter concrete.

Your ability to comprehend is really low, I mean it. You can’t even relate what the 50/50 the other guy talking about in other thread. Either that or you are just really stubborn.

XTR.9604:

Skynet.7201:

Having so many full servers sucks. I feel sorry for solo roamers and small havoc guilds that want to move.

Why feel bad for us roamer and havoc guilds?? The roaming in T1 and T2 isn’t as good as it is in T3 currently. We can all go to a server linked with a T3 server and the roaming is gooooooood. I’m on BP paired with FA right now and I’ve been having a blast roaming.

It’s not just a matter of picking a tier. It’s a matter of being able to choose a cohesive community.

I’m not trying to argue with you, but I do have a question. What will you do when BP ends up paired with another server? And what if you don’t like the vibe of that server? I guess what I’m getting at is this: are people in lower tiers going to keep spending gems to transfer to other lower population servers so they can play with the upper tier servers they WANT to be with?

We do know that a lot of players want more pairing rotation, so if that happens, that makes things real unstable for solo roamers and small havoc guilds that I know. That doesn’t speak for everyone, but this is what I’m hearing from my own friends. Some of them are stuck paired with a community they feel is pretty toxic and they want to move. But with so many unanswered questions about the future of pairing, costs, server population statuses, etc., they feel stuck. And I see their point.

Skynet.7201:

XTR.9604:

Skynet.7201:

Having so many full servers sucks. I feel sorry for solo roamers and small havoc guilds that want to move.

Why feel bad for us roamer and havoc guilds?? The roaming in T1 and T2 isn’t as good as it is in T3 currently. We can all go to a server linked with a T3 server and the roaming is gooooooood. I’m on BP paired with FA right now and I’ve been having a blast roaming.

It’s not just a matter of picking a tier. It’s a matter of being able to choose a cohesive community.

I’m not trying to argue with you, but I do have a question. What will you do when BP ends up paired with another server? And what if you don’t like the vibe of that server? I guess what I’m getting at is this: are people in lower tiers going to keep spending gems to transfer to other lower population servers so they can play with the upper tier servers they WANT to be with?

I honestly never cared about what the community is like in any server I’ve been in. In fact, the server I still consider to be my “favorite” that I have been on is Maguuma and they have been considered the most toxic server community for years haha.

I go where the fights are, if I end up paired with a server that has no enemies, I’ll find my way to another server to have enemies to fight against again. Simple as that.

Skynet.7201:

We do know that a lot of players want more pairing rotation, so if that happens, that makes things real unstable for solo roamers and small havoc guilds that I know. That doesn’t speak for everyone, but this is what I’m hearing from my own friends. Some of them are stuck paired with a community they feel is pretty toxic and they want to move. But with so many unanswered questions about the future of pairing, costs, server population statuses, etc., they feel stuck. And I see their point.

I don’t care if it rotates or not for me personally. It is fun getting in other match ups and being paired with servers you have friends or foes in or against.

XTR.9604:

Skynet.7201:

XTR.9604:

Skynet.7201:

Having so many full servers sucks. I feel sorry for solo roamers and small havoc guilds that want to move.

Why feel bad for us roamer and havoc guilds?? The roaming in T1 and T2 isn’t as good as it is in T3 currently. We can all go to a server linked with a T3 server and the roaming is gooooooood. I’m on BP paired with FA right now and I’ve been having a blast roaming.

It’s not just a matter of picking a tier. It’s a matter of being able to choose a cohesive community.

I’m not trying to argue with you, but I do have a question. What will you do when BP ends up paired with another server? And what if you don’t like the vibe of that server? I guess what I’m getting at is this: are people in lower tiers going to keep spending gems to transfer to other lower population servers so they can play with the upper tier servers they WANT to be with?

I honestly never cared about what the community is like in any server I’ve been in. In fact, the server I still consider to be my “favorite” that I have been on is Maguuma and they have been considered the most toxic server community for years haha.

I go where the fights are, if I end up paired with a server that has no enemies, I’ll find my way to another server to have enemies to fight against again. Simple as that.

Skynet.7201:

We do know that a lot of players want more pairing rotation, so if that happens, that makes things real unstable for solo roamers and small havoc guilds that I know. That doesn’t speak for everyone, but this is what I’m hearing from my own friends. Some of them are stuck paired with a community they feel is pretty toxic and they want to move. But with so many unanswered questions about the future of pairing, costs, server population statuses, etc., they feel stuck. And I see their point.

I don’t care if it rotates or not for me personally. It is fun getting in other match ups and being paired with servers you have friends or foes in or against.

A lot of people DO care about server vibe, cohesion and coordination.