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Posted by: Fangz.3269

Fangz.3269

I do not frequent the forums often, so I do not know whether this has been posted before. I am a frequent WvW player and often buy wvw gear as I switch around my gears and stats quite often. Using Transmutation crystals was alright and affordable.

However after the wardrobe patch, the only way to get my Traveler runes or Bloodlust sigils out of my items is to purchase the ridiculously priced Upgrade Extractors (5 for 1100gems which is 105g or 21g each) and you need 6 just to get a rune set out of a set of armor. I think economically no one would use Upgrade Extractors at all.
(Traveler Runes 6-8g each)
(Bloodlust sigil 8-10g each)

The only way clear wvw gear is to destroy it since you can’t throw it into the Mystic Toilet or Vendor it or Salvage it, making WvW gear a lot less appealing and viable in some ways. But mainly, it is just a very inefficient and confusing concept. I feel that many, including myself, have been frustrated over this issue at times


I would propose to either
1. Make WvW gear salvage-able like normal gears, but perhaps adjust the prices up to better reflect it’s true economic value and to prevent opportunistic behaviour. (You can farm dungeon weapons and salvage them for parts, so I don’t see why WvW gears can’t.)
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2. Lower the extractor costs, no one economically sound will use that. Make it an economically-Viable option.
(If you guys have any better ideas, do post it below!!)
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I’m sure this problem is probably just an overlooked issue from the wonderful wardrobe update, and I do sincerely wish that the staff from ArenaNet would find this agree-able and make some changes.
That’s all, thanks for reading!!

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Posted by: Geiir.7603

Geiir.7603

I completely agree! Making it salvageable would fix this

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Posted by: Joey.2769

Joey.2769

Yes please, I would like my traveler runes back and my bloodlust sigil.

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Posted by: Ven Zehn.6573

Ven Zehn.6573

+1 for this, been hoping Anet would look into this.

Personally I don’t see anyway people could profit off buying wvw gear to salvage (dungeon gear would be more economical time-wise, and u get a few silver from the runes), and even in the rare cases where someone just has so many badges that they don’t know what to do with em, those people deserve to be able to do something with those badges:)
As for extractors, yes, only possible thing I could think of worth using them on would be very high level agony infusions.

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Posted by: GreenAlien.5623

GreenAlien.5623

This is long overdue.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

One other option they can look at is having a system similar to how upgrades worked on Hero armor back in GW1. Put simply, you can use a salvage kit to salvage off the upgrade (with the usual chances for failure), but success simply means you get back the upgrade. The armor/weapon itself cannot be destroyed or broken down for mats.

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Posted by: Jagstang.6912

Jagstang.6912

I completely disagree! I had several sets of armor in my bank that had strength runes and i had to destroy them because they took up most of the bank. I will not stand by and let anet fix this after I’d wasted maybe 100+g on strength runes and then destroyed them for bank space.

I will stop paying the monthly fee if they fix this.

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Posted by: Zackie.8923

Zackie.8923

this simple fix has been long overdue.

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Posted by: Lethal Stranger.5093

Lethal Stranger.5093

I’m guessing they’re unsalvageable because Anet doesn’t want us to make money out of it (god forbid WvW actually being rewarding).
This can be easily fixed by making them salvagable, but removing the ectoplasm chance from these specific armor/weapon types.

Even though I’m highly sceptical they’re ever gonna fix this problem, it’s been like that since release iirc.

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Posted by: Zephaust Zenith.8376

Zephaust Zenith.8376

I agree and +1 the request.

This is long overdue and a deterrent to purchase and upgrade W³ gear unless it’s meant to act as a gold/gem sink – bug or another feature lacking proper clarification ?

The prices of the extractors are also out of touch with the rest of the economy surrounding most of the sigils/runes. Lowering the price would most likely boost their sale.

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Posted by: Tommyknocker.6089

Tommyknocker.6089

I myself would be happy if they just let us get the runes/sigils out of them even if the armor/weapon itself offered no salvageable mats. Being bought with badges means (now with eotm) that they are easy to acquire, but it would still be nice to recover the upgrades.

+1 (we don’t need no stinking badges back)

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Posted by: yanniell.1236

yanniell.1236

It would be nice to hear a devs opinions on this. Even if it were to say “not gonna happen”.

[HUE]

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Posted by: storiessave.3807

storiessave.3807

People have been asking for this ever since the change to transmutation. It really, really needs to be fixed. I’m using cheaper runes in my necro’s WvW gear set because I don’t want to lose expensive runes if I upgrade to ascended from my current set.

Really sucks that you either have to bite the bullet and waste money, spend more money to craft your own set of (salvageable) gear, or not put any expensive runes in WvW/karma gear. There’s almost no point in even having these NPCs right now.

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Posted by: RedStar.4218

RedStar.4218

I started crafting ascended armor for my engi. I realized that he had WvW gear on…I’m not wasting 60g to buy my runes again so this ascended armor is going for my thief.

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Posted by: Elmo Benchwarmer.3025

Elmo Benchwarmer.3025

/signed

Again.

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Posted by: Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Not gonna happen. NCSoft wants us to buy their extractors.

My posts are facts as I know them, or my own opinion, and do not represent any guild.

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Posted by: yanniell.1236

yanniell.1236

Nobody with half a brain buys that. It’s cheaper just trade the gems for golds and buy the runes again.

[HUE]

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Posted by: Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Nobody with half a brain buys that…

… and one day NCSoft might figure that out.

My posts are facts as I know them, or my own opinion, and do not represent any guild.

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Posted by: Jagstang.6912

Jagstang.6912

I’m guessing they’re unsalvageable because Anet doesn’t want us to make money out of it (god forbid WvW actually being rewarding).
This can be easily fixed by making them salvagable, but removing the ectoplasm chance from these specific armor/weapon types.

Even though I’m highly sceptical they’re ever gonna fix this problem, it’s been like that since release iirc.

It’s the exact same reason why they don’t let you salvage karma gear. It has nothing to do with them not wanting you to make gold from WvW.

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Posted by: zen.6091

zen.6091

bump

…bumping every day.

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Posted by: Gamgee.8612

Gamgee.8612

Yes please. Since I wasn’t so dumb to put Strength runes on a set I can’t salvage them from I don’t have alot of runesets on invaders armor but I do have a full set of Melandru runes that I could sell if this happens.

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Posted by: zen.6091

zen.6091

Necromancy bump.

Anyone with a pile of un-salvageable gear in their inventory / bank should want this =/

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Posted by: Loosmaster.8263

Loosmaster.8263

Are we back to doing this again. Mark had posted about this.


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Posted by: Luvpie.8350

Luvpie.8350

Are we back to doing this again. Mark had posted about this.

where

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Posted by: Loosmaster.8263

Loosmaster.8263

There was a sticky about Necroposting. Apparently it was removed on the last forum update.


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Posted by: waSte.8640

waSte.8640

Oh this looks like one of my old post. Answer is Anet doesn’t care about the issue. Ive played for a year and seen dozens of these topics with unanimous support get ignored.

All gear should be salvageable. Karma and badge gear should sue for discrimination.

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Posted by: azizul.8469

azizul.8469

MAKE WVW GEAR SALVAGABLE PLS !

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Posted by: Offair.2563

Offair.2563

One Dev: WVW WUTS THAT
Other devs shrug, wuts that

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Posted by: Jim Hunter.6821

Jim Hunter.6821

There was a sticky about Necroposting. Apparently it was removed on the last forum update.

For a minute there I thought you meant a dev posted something relevant to the discussion….

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Posted by: The Hero Warrior Il.7681

The Hero Warrior Il.7681

Ye agree make them salvage able again or atleast make us able to mystic forge the items

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Posted by: Talyn.3295

Talyn.3295

There isn’t any reason Anet can’t fix this. We have dungeons in PvE, where tokens are used to buy armor which is salvageable. In fact this is one of the few ways to get some kinda of armor sets or the insignia to make ascended version.

Drop the gold requirement for buying it, and up the amount of WvW tokens, there is no reason why WvW players shouldn’t have the same benefits as PvE players.

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Posted by: coglin.1867

coglin.1867

What is there to fix? It is intended. They have posted comments on it in the past.

A video on what weak PvPer’s and WvWer’s want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3em9s5I4c

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Posted by: waSte.8640

waSte.8640

It’s pretty clear players just want this simple thing. It does need to be fixed. No reason to lose sigils and runes in badge gear. No reason badge gear shouldnt be able to be thrown in forge.

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Posted by: dancingmonkey.4902

dancingmonkey.4902

It’s pretty clear players just want this simple thing. It does need to be fixed. No reason to lose sigils and runes in badge gear. No reason badge gear shouldnt be able to be thrown in forge.

Player constantly want things that harm the game, so what?

This would completely destroy the economy and badges are so eay to come by it is ridiculous.

So, yes, as has been explained in the dev post on this matter years ago, there are perfectly good reasons not to make such a change.

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Posted by: waSte.8640

waSte.8640

Unacceptable. Silverwaste farm destroys the economy but that is fine. Can barely make 2-3gold in wvw a night. Get 100 champs bags , tons of gold in mats, straight cash all in under an hour in the Silverwaste. Stop it.

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Posted by: dancingmonkey.4902

dancingmonkey.4902

So you have a economist degree?

Break it down in detail for us. Let readers read their economist post and compare it to your and decide for themselves. I await your informed education.

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Posted by: waSte.8640

waSte.8640

Don’t need a degree to post on the forums. Go and see for yourself. Play an hour or two in each zone and compare.

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Posted by: schulzki.1862

schulzki.1862

hi there

this! so much this i can’t even…. still got an armor set in my bank with soldier runes wich i bought right after the beta (impossible stats for guard and i mostly roam nowadays)… and i am still hoping i can salvage it sometime soon… since almost three years…

good lord… please…

(im cheap i know:P)

have a good weekend

p.s. english is not my first language, soooo…

edit:

to be clear here: i do not care about mats or ectos or anything from salvaging WvsW armor, BUT i would really like to get the runes out of it…. even if the armor is going to break…

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Posted by: dancingmonkey.4902

dancingmonkey.4902

Don’t need a degree to post on the forums. Go and see for yourself. Play an hour or two in each zone and compare.

No, but if your going to claim it wouldn’t effect the economy, you need to at least have some reasonable facts to support it.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

People have been asking for this for 3 years. Don’t hold your breath waiting for it; and in general, don’t use WvW gear.

They could obviously make the gear salvageable such that only upgrades get recovered and you get zero mats; they won’t bother though.

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Posted by: dancingmonkey.4902

dancingmonkey.4902

People have been asking for this for 3 years. Don’t hold your breath waiting for it; and in general, don’t use WvW gear.

They could obviously make the gear salvageable such that only upgrades get recovered and you get zero mats; they won’t bother though.

Why do that, when you can simply allow the upgrades you would want, to be purchasable from the same vendor?

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Posted by: waSte.8640

waSte.8640

Every patch effects the economy in some way. I didnt mean it wouldnt effect the economy. Its more about what is right.

About the recommendation to not even use wvw gear.
Thats shows there is a problem. And the recommendation is exactly right.

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Posted by: Lord Kuru.3685

Lord Kuru.3685

People have been asking for this for 3 years. Don’t hold your breath waiting for it; and in general, don’t use WvW gear.

They could obviously make the gear salvageable such that only upgrades get recovered and you get zero mats; they won’t bother though.

Why do that, when you can simply allow the upgrades you would want, to be purchasable from the same vendor?

I mean upgrades like runes and sigils.

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Posted by: Offair.2563

Offair.2563

Well if this would harm the economy, make the runes and sigils account bound after salvage, heck even only those out without materials would be nice. It is not like theyre easier to get then pve gears is it?

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Posted by: Vyx.8607

Vyx.8607

Concur, don’t get mats back but get those sigils/runes out!

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Posted by: zen.6091

zen.6091

so, yes, as has been explained in the dev post on this matter years ago, there are perfectly good reasons not to make such a change.

Years ago, there were no exotics items that cost less than the WvW armor and weapons (they still cost 80s-1g each). Now there are lots of exotic items that cost less, so the original reason for making the equipment non-salvageable no longer exist…it hasn’t for awhile.

When Anet gave us the exotic equipment vendors for WvW it was a bargain to address the issue that playing WvW gives you nearly zero reward compared to PvE, but you need equipment to play it. So some players like me used a lot of it because we were poor and liked to have different builds on many characters. Well, now a lot of those upgrade components are quite expensive (e.g. Hoelbrak runes)…so if you have stuff on gear that’s no longer used, what are you supposed to do? Would you delete 400g?

I think it would be good anyway to flood the market with components to bring down the cost of commonly used WvW gear. It’s crazy that common WvW gear cost 2-3 times more than common PvE gear.

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Posted by: Hyper Cutter.9376

Hyper Cutter.9376

Also, Anet has always been twitchy about things bought with currencies other than gold. Karma items can’t be salvaged, badge exotics can’t be salvaged or forged, even gear bought with dungeon tokens comes with unsellable runes.

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

Also, Anet has always been twitchy about things bought with currencies other than gold. Karma items can’t be salvaged, badge exotics can’t be salvaged or forged, even gear bought with dungeon tokens comes with unsellable runes.

While you can’t directly salvage karma items, you can forge them then salvage what comes out (this is how I get linen).

While the runes themselves can’t be sold, you can salvage and forge dungeon gear (I’ve gotten several precursors from this + at the worst you can just sell the exotic it spits out).

I would be fine with it if they have badge gear give no ecto’s/dark matter, still don’t allow them to be forged, but allow them to be salvaged for the upgrade.

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Posted by: Gaab.4257

Gaab.4257

Absolutely agreed. I avoid those armor as I would not want to put any expensive runes into them – no way to get them back (I mean, no way that would worth it – extractors would work but those are more expensive than the runes).

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Posted by: aspirine.6852

aspirine.6852

Yep totaly agree with making them salvagable.