Guild Wars 2

Hi!
I´m r40 engi (spvp) I know how to play and I really think enginers is a strong class I would even go as far as Overpowered. But engis really lack a role in WvW…and here is why:

Engis is a Midrange combatclass that relie on Conditions and CC to win the fights.
In WvW single target CC dont matter and engis dont have the natural sustain to be in midfight using thier original 1-5 or bombkit. The WvW meta is about big groups of players zerging from one point to another.

So the only option left for enginers are longrange dmg…the best and only viable build is one involving Grenadekit…BUT its not viable vs Good group of enemies and here is WHY!

Retaliation…I run full rabid gear HgH elixer and nadekit. Each time I throw ONE autoattack with grenade or use a grenadekit skill I throw 3 grenades…each grenade hits 5 x3 ppl gets a total of 15 targets effected by dmg…

A good “Zerg” buffs up berfore goin in…giving AOE retaliation to everyone…So ea time I use a grenadekit skill I take 15 retaliation dmg….thats 3-4k dmg I take in retaliation for ONE attack…its simply makes the only viable enginer build useless……… After you casted 2-4-5 you lost 50% of your hp and the enemie havent even reached you yet. If you use your Grenade barrage 8 grenades x 5 targets for ea grenade that is 40 retaliation dmg thats 8-12k dmg in retaliation from that one skill that …thats half your health in one attack…fun?

I´m not a gamedesigner but I can see the problem here…Can you??

Suggestions…set a max cap of retaliation dmg for ea attack.

Count a grenade attack as one attack giving 5 retaliation dmg instead of 15 (this means you need to fix so grenades goes through bodys so the only deals dmg when they touch the ground meaning you cant bodyblock a grenade and blocking 3 grenades without dmging the ones next to you (even if you block the dmg other around you take splash dmg).

I still have hope in you arena net even if I really wanted to quit the game after you removed 8 teams tourneys giving ous 2 hotjoin pubgames and none tourney matchmaking to speak of

I know my spelling is poor but I dont care aslong as the messege get through =)

Retaliation is a zergs counter for massive AoE damage like yours. Personally, I don’t like it, but they (ANET) favor the zerg.

I would rather have people HAVE to spread out to avoid your damage. But it just doesn’t work, because they would have to change a boatload of things to make it balanced.

Yep. It’s absolutely terrible. Any guardian is going to be using a lot of various light fields and a lot of aoe in zergs are going to be blast. That’s aoe retal, not even intentionally. As an engineer in full PVT gear, I can still lose 50-60% of my health easily in one grenade barrage simply due to retaliation. You used to be able to mitigate it somewhat with health leeching food, but with the nerf to that, you’re better off playing a different class.

Adapt to it simply put, maybe back up and wait a bit till the retaliation where’s off…also idk what tier you are in but in tier 7 only the very very organized guild groups run retaliation in their groups from what I see…the average Zerg will have whatever random buffs are on them