Guild Wars 2

Hi,

Me and my wife came back after 2 years. Previously we had wvw +5 supply buff for our guild also we could craft guild catapults occasionally.

Influence system worked well for us.

New system is very confusing. After spending some hours on forums I still don’t get it how we could get +5 supply buff back.

Our small guild gets absolutely no benefits after huge amount of time playing in wvw. That is frustrating.

Is there any chance for 2 players guild?

Not really in my oppinon mate the cost dont justify what you get as a 2 person guild

There’s no technical reason you can’t. First you have to capture a guild hall, restore the tavern, then restore the war room. Once the war room is restored, you can make guild auras and scribing supplies like guild catapults.

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_upgrade#Initial_steps

The unlocking the guild hall part is the only tricky part, as you need ~5 people to do so. Many guilds find people to help on the LFG tool.

to Linken
+5 Supply buff in wvw very helpfull
to Hesacon
ty I will try it.
But Favour? how to farm Favour with 2 players?

BladeMate.3517:

to Linken
+5 Supply buff in wvw very helpfull
to Hesacon
ty I will try it.
But Favour? how to farm Favour with 2 players?

Yes it sure is usefull.
But do you think its worth it to sink tons of materials/gold and time buying or just finding people to help you do guild missions each week so you can earn the favor.

Thats why I said it aint worth it as a 2 person guild

BladeMate.3517:

to Linken
+5 Supply buff in wvw very helpfull
to Hesacon
ty I will try it.
But Favour? how to farm Favour with 2 players?

by easy guild missions.
5-target Treks can be done easily. In case of Rushes, just do them on Sunday, and try to join-in when a big guild is already doing the same rush (you will need to get to the end only once then, instead of 15 times – the other guild will supply the manpower). The same with easy bounties – the possible bounties at that level (Trillia, Pobadoo, and Brekkabek, if i remember right) are relatively easy to find, and then you can just link waypoint on the mapchat, and see people rush in and take care of them for you.

Don’t bother. ANET destroyed small WvW guilds with HoT. They took away all the work smalls guilds did and then told them to join a nameless blob guild. And the worst part is all the PVE grinding WvW guilds are now required to do.

That’s how ANET creates content, they take away what you did before and make you do it again behind a craptastic grind that requires tons of gold (gems).

Linken.6345:

BladeMate.3517:

to Linken
+5 Supply buff in wvw very helpfull
to Hesacon
ty I will try it.
But Favour? how to farm Favour with 2 players?

Yes it sure is usefull.
But do you think its worth it to sink tons of materials/gold and time buying or just finding people to help you do guild missions each week so you can earn the favor.

Thats why I said it aint worth it as a 2 person guild

“Worth it” is in the eye of the beholder. Better imo to explain to folks the requirements and let them decide.

If you just push for the +5 supply, the least you need to build is:

• The upgrade: Supply Capacity, which costs 1k aetherium and 200 favor plus mats.
• A guild level of 6, which requires:
  • If you had a guild before HoT, speak to a guild registrar to obtain whatever levels you can.
  • A guild hall (explained above)
  • Tavern 1
  • Mine 1
  • Aetherium 1
  • Workshop 1

Looks like it might be a total of:

• 550 favor
• 2.5k aetherium
• To get to L6, roughly 340 gold (at instant buy prices) for a various mats, from 600 Elder Wood Planks + 600 Mithril Ingots to 50 Silverwastes shovels
• Another 60-80 gold worth of mats for the supply buff itself.

So you’d spend ~400 gold to get a buff you can apply to any camp you claim.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Linken.6345:

BladeMate.3517:

to Linken
+5 Supply buff in wvw very helpfull
to Hesacon
ty I will try it.
But Favour? how to farm Favour with 2 players?

Yes it sure is usefull.
But do you think its worth it to sink tons of materials/gold and time buying or just finding people to help you do guild missions each week so you can earn the favor.

Thats why I said it aint worth it as a 2 person guild

“Worth it” is in the eye of the beholder. Better imo to explain to folks the requirements and let them decide.

If you just push for the +5 supply, the least you need to build is:

• The upgrade: Supply Capacity, which costs 1k aetherium and 200 favor plus mats.
• A guild level of 6, which requires:
  • If you had a guild before HoT, speak to a guild registrar to obtain whatever levels you can.
  • A guild hall (explained above)
  • Tavern 1
  • Mine 1
  • Aetherium 1
  • Workshop 1

Looks like it might be a total of:

• 550 favor
• 2.5k aetherium
• To get to L6, roughly 340 gold (at instant buy prices) for a various mats, from 600 Elder Wood Planks + 600 Mithril Ingots to 50 Silverwastes shovels
• Another 60-80 gold worth of mats for the supply buff itself.

So you’d spend ~400 gold to get a buff you can apply to any camp you claim.

Thank you for detailed explanation.
I think I will go for it.

Grim West.3194:

They took away all the work smalls guilds did and then told them to join a nameless blob guild. And the worst part is all the PVE grinding WvW guilds are now required to do.

Agree it is not good.

For a 2 person guild it will be a huge challenge since most guild missions seem to require at least three people.

You will have to farm silverwastes for days to get tge shovels you will need. It’s a lot more involved than just spending gold. Prepare to grind your butt off and also spend a lot of gold….

You really will need to get more people in your guild if you want to do this anytime before Christmas.

I got aura 1 and tower claim pretty easy alone. Had 2 friends give ~10 shovels and though some bloodstone bricks though. Oh and we did a guild bounty too I think.

The easiest thing to do is guild rushes. Wait at spot for another guild to start it, before starting yours, as your timer has to end after theirs or you don’t get credit. They can be easy or hard for the week. Yes you will have to learn karka rush as it is likely to be the hard one but it does reward really well.

I assume you and wife roam which means lots of camp/guards. Salvage all your drops and you will have all your mats in a month.

My guild is level 9 on it’s way to the +5 supply again after HoT, similar situation, small guild since release.

We only have 2 active players since HoT was released.

I’m guessing you may be older like myself, have work and maybe kids so you don’t want to “grind” just to have a guild again to enjoy the game so my advice would be put money into the gemstore and see if anyone in the SW is able to help out by selling shovels.

When it comes to getting Favor, do the simple ones like PvP/WvW… Make a post in map chat asking if anyone would like to help (usually someone wants commendations)

It might also be worth treating it like a side project and join another guild in the mean time, it will give you a chance to see which guild hall you prefer.

Thank you all for very detailed explanations and advises.
Gold grind is not an issue. We managed somehow to finish Kudzu and ascended armour sets. But all this guild tasks that need 3-5 players worrying me. I definitely will investigate about guild rush and shovels. Sad that for this tasks we have to go deeper into PVE world.
Wvw jumping puzzle guild task is not the one we could enjoy.

BladeMate.3517:

Thank you all for very detailed explanations and advises.
Gold grind is not an issue. We managed somehow to finish Kudzu and ascended armour sets. But all this guild tasks that need 3-5 players worrying me. I definitely will investigate about guild rush and shovels. Sad that for this tasks we have to go deeper into PVE world.
Wvw jumping puzzle guild task is not the one we could enjoy.

You don’t need 3+ players to complete g-mish, although admittedly: PvE g-mish are more easily done with fewer.

The short version: simply trigger each mission you have while you WvW. Eventually, you’ll end up with most of them by happenstance (off-peak). A few, you’ll have to make a special effort or two.

List of Opportunities
I’m going to cover the ‘easy’ tier only, since, as a young guild, that’s the only choice you’ll have:

• Camp capture: cap a supply camp and hold for 15 minutes. Depends on the map and the time, but even a single person can manage this, unless there’s a large group trying to take it back. North Camp in your home BL is typically easiest, if the opportunity arises.
• Sentry capture: cap 3 sentries; hold for 15 min. During prime time: nearly impossible even for a large guild. During off-peak: depends on havoc groups. Ideally, ask someone to help hold one or two.
• Cap & Hold: hold a captured camp until it reaches tier 1, which takes 20 completed yak deliveries. Annoying, but doable.
• Oasis challenge: collect 3 power cores. Easy enough; Desert map only
• Obsidian challenge: it says 5 players, but it can be done by the same 2 by repeating the puzzle. Reportedly bugged, so might not be doable by any guild.
• Supply lines: Complete 3 dolyak defend events in 20 minutes. Success depends more on the opponents than on you. Easier off-peak, of course.
• Rank: earn 10,000 wvw rank points within 30 minutes. That’s equivalent to gaining 2 ranks. Definitely one that you should keep triggering until you get it. If you’re lucky enough to get the right liquid WXP, easy.

tl;dr most of the easy WvW missions are doable by 2 people, although depends more on opponents (which is also true for large guilds)

BladeMate.3517:

Is there any chance for 2 players guild?

I’ve been soloing my Guild Hall and it’s level 31 with all 2nd tier upgrades. It’s doable if you try and be patient with it. If you had an existing Guild you’ll have some things Grandfathered in when you claim the hall too.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

BladeMate.3517:

Thank you all for very detailed explanations and advises.
Gold grind is not an issue. We managed somehow to finish Kudzu and ascended armour sets. But all this guild tasks that need 3-5 players worrying me. I definitely will investigate about guild rush and shovels. Sad that for this tasks we have to go deeper into PVE world.
Wvw jumping puzzle guild task is not the one we could enjoy.

You don’t need 3+ players to complete g-mish, although admittedly: PvE g-mish are more easily done with fewer.

The short version: simply trigger each mission you have while you WvW. Eventually, you’ll end up with most of them by happenstance (off-peak). A few, you’ll have to make a special effort or two.

List of Opportunities
I’m going to cover the ‘easy’ tier only, since, as a young guild, that’s the only choice you’ll have:

• Camp capture: cap a supply camp and hold for 15 minutes. Depends on the map and the time, but even a single person can manage this, unless there’s a large group trying to take it back. North Camp in your home BL is typically easiest, if the opportunity arises.
• Sentry capture: cap 3 sentries; hold for 15 min. During prime time: nearly impossible even for a large guild. During off-peak: depends on havoc groups. Ideally, ask someone to help hold one or two.
• Cap & Hold: hold a captured camp until it reaches tier 1, which takes 20 completed yak deliveries. Annoying, but doable.
• Oasis challenge: collect 3 power cores. Easy enough; Desert map only
• Obsidian challenge: it says 5 players, but it can be done by the same 2 by repeating the puzzle. Reportedly bugged, so might not be doable by any guild.
• Supply lines: Complete 3 dolyak defend events in 20 minutes. Success depends more on the opponents than on you. Easier off-peak, of course.
• Rank: earn 10,000 wvw rank points within 30 minutes. That’s equivalent to gaining 2 ranks. Definitely one that you should keep triggering until you get it. If you’re lucky enough to get the right liquid WXP, easy.

tl;dr most of the easy WvW missions are doable by 2 people, although depends more on opponents (which is also true for large guilds)

All the capture missions require 3 guild members to be present on the cap. Escorting yaks also require 3 guild members to get credit to it count. The only WvW missions you can do solo is Rank points and Obsidian Sanctum (Oasis also was doable but skysplitter was removed from the game before the desert was removed).

I feel for you. I have a 3 person guild for my family and was like wtf? How come i have to now pay 100g to go do a mission to claim a guild hall (which I read requires something like 6-9 players ideally) … before I can even start getting influence from upgrades, wait no… we then have to unlock a tavern first which requires more materials (albeit more reasonably priced), a mine excavation (which again – is somewhat reasonable) to unlock a workshop restoration (which costs quite a bit) to finally get a war room?

or something like that?

And then we can begin to look at schematics like camp supplies and buffs (which i don’t know but i think you need like linseed oil, flax fibres and badges of tribute)?

Wow… I don’t know enough about the process, or how easy or costly it is … but for a family playing the game – it seems like we are not really meant to have access to those things now.

It seems like a huge gold sink that most small families would not be able to afford.

Don’t bother. Especially since they’ve done it once, they’ll do it again. Do you really want to re-grind your 5-supply buff for the third time when the next expansion comes? Or maybe you don’t plan on staying with the game that long — in that case you can do the WvW guild missions… oh wait, did you say 2 man guild?

Lord Kuru.3685:

Don’t bother. Especially since they’ve done it once, they’ll do it again. Do you really want to re-grind your 5-supply buff for the third time when the next expansion comes?

Hmm … Good point

The whole GH system and upgrades is flat out stupid when it comes to WvW. Guild size isn’t even really an issue, no guild should be forced to dump whats required to get the WvW upgrades you already had no matter how many members you have.

Update … my guild of 3 attempted to do the guild mission to claim a camp and lock it down for upgrade to tier 1… we captured the camp + locked down and held it for 35 minutes solid. But only 11/20 yaks made it to their destination. At that point about 6 BG came in and cleaned us up.

No success for the little guys

Any tips for this? Is there certain camps that are easier to accomplish this goal? Or do we need to claim the camp as well, and get the schematic for speedy yaks (we don’t have a GH presently because we are 3)

Capture and Hold missions are terrible to do. Tier 1 takes far too long oposed to what it was when they implemented these missions (it would take 10/20/30 mins to a camp/tower/keep upgrade to first tier). Normally I just skip capture and hold.

But if you still want to do this, the easiest camps to do are north camp in your own borderland or a camp at your side in EBG (not speldan) as long you don’t own SMC.

Thanks … I was thinking maybe north camp but assumed it would take forever with no GH so no speedy yaks.

Hexinx.1872:

Thanks … I was thinking maybe north camp but assumed it would take forever with no GH so no speedy yaks.

Well honestly, it’s not fast… But it’s the easiest camp to defend since it’s far away from enemy spawns and you most likely own the towers and the keep it supply.

I’m on your server I think. A few tips:-

Capture and Holds are probably not going to complete. Start them but don’t sweat it if they fail.

Captures are easy. Usually its sentries/camps. You do need 3 people to be present.

Supply Lines. Yak walking is usually simple to get done. If you cant slot speedy yaks then ask in map if someone else will, (anyone can slot on a claimed structure even if its not their claim).

Tell people you are doing a gmission. I’m on TC and have completed Capture and Holds by telling everyone in map what i’m doing, sieging and scouting and calling for help when its attacked. Most of us squirrels will often show up at least

Yes you are, love seeing you guys running. it’s my side guild … and I was toying with the idea to build it up to base minimum so I can put a +5 on camps and such whenever a commander or driver calls for it. Most primary guilds already have claims running, but every now and then i hear it in comms. Very helpful advice.

I honestly wouldn’t have minded re-earning +5 on my “couples” bank guild IF we had been presented with an option to do so.

Capturing a GH though, or atleast minimizing the overall attempts at capturing requires atleast 5 people right off the bat.

Upgrading, both in terms of mats and missions requires time, patience and most missions require a minimum of 3 people.

If you’re 2 antisocial people, most likely you’ll never get or upgrade a GH under the current setup.

It would’ve been nice to have Hall size options with criteria. The two designs were fine, but, if you didn’t want to expand your guild, maybe tell us, ok, you can get and upgrade Guilded Hollow with 2-5 people, but the Hall itself is a quarter of the size as the current Guided Hollow with limited upgrades, and in order to get more space and additional upgrades, you must apply for a bigger guild license or preform additional boss fights to unlock those wings.

HazyDaisy.4107:

If you’re 2 antisocial people, most likely you’ll never get or upgrade a GH under the current setup.

That’s sad.
We use our guild for romantic game-play (role-play) point.
I feel very lucky that my wife is willing to play with me this game and so we manage to share our hobby, which is important to keep married life happy.
So guild is our home, heart and sword is our guild emblem etc etc

BladeMate.3517:

HazyDaisy.4107:

If you’re 2 antisocial people, most likely you’ll never get or upgrade a GH under the current setup.

That’s sad.
We use our guild for romantic game-play (role-play) point.
I feel very lucky that my wife is willing to play with me this game and so we manage to share our hobby, which is important to keep married life happy.
So guild is our home, heart and sword is our guild emblem etc etc

Then it’s time to have kids to play this game friend.

Now that the +5 buff is the first aura, it’s definitely possible even for small guilds to get it back. As others have already said, you’ll need some volunteers for the capture mission – aim for doing the mission with 5-9 players. They don’t have to join your guild, by the way, they only need to be in your squad when you start the mission. You can look for volunteers on the forums, in lfg or mapchat.

For the favor, set your guild missions preference to pve only, because some pve missions can be done with 1-2 players (easy trek, if you have a character with world completion) or with other guilds (all races, easy bounty) or even randoms (easy bounty).

The most annoying part will be getting the 50 shovels for the mine 1 upgrade – you’ll have to grind Silverwastes for a while, but at least you’ll get lots of luck that you can use for the +5 upgrade at the same time (you’ll need 77 exotic luck for that upgrade). You can also get a tiny amount of shovels (3 I think) from the Silverwastes wvw reward track.

The guild catapult upgrade will be unlocked automatically because you already had the upgrade in the old system. However, in order to make guild catas you’d have to level the scribe profession (or buy them with guild commendations, but you’d need the market and the guild trader upgrade for that). Guild catas cost 40 supply now if I’m not mistaken.

Upgrading the guild hall will take an insane amount of elder wood and mithril, by the way. Be prepared to chop billions of trees! Good luck!

Lord Kuru.3685:

Don’t bother. Especially since they’ve done it once, they’ll do it again. Do you really want to re-grind your 5-supply buff for the third time when the next expansion comes?

I don’t think they’d do this. Upgrading the guild hall is very expensive, so there would be a huge outrage if they dared to take our upgrades away again. Even the big guilds would mind this time!

Shukriyya.7629:

Now that the +5 buff is the first aura, it’s definitely possible even for small guilds to get it back. As others have already said, you’ll need some volunteers for the capture mission – aim for doing the mission with 5-9 players. They don’t have to join your guild, by the way, they only need to be in your squad when you start the mission. You can look for volunteers on the forums, in lfg or mapchat.

For the favor, set your guild missions preference to pve only, because some pve missions can be done with 1-2 players (easy trek, if you have a character with world completion) or with other guilds (all races, easy bounty) or even randoms (easy bounty).

The most annoying part will be getting the 50 shovels for the mine 1 upgrade – you’ll have to grind Silverwastes for a while, but at least you’ll get lots of luck that you can use for the +5 upgrade at the same time (you’ll need 77 exotic luck for that upgrade). You can also get a tiny amount of shovels (3 I think) from the Silverwastes wvw reward track.

The guild catapult upgrade will be unlocked automatically because you already had the upgrade in the old system. However, in order to make guild catas you’d have to level the scribe profession (or buy them with guild commendations, but you’d need the market and the guild trader upgrade for that). Guild catas cost 40 supply now if I’m not mistaken.

Upgrading the guild hall will take an insane amount of elder wood and mithril, by the way. Be prepared to chop billions of trees! Good luck!

Lord Kuru.3685:

Don’t bother. Especially since they’ve done it once, they’ll do it again. Do you really want to re-grind your 5-supply buff for the third time when the next expansion comes?

I don’t think they’d do this. Upgrading the guild hall is very expensive, so there would be a huge outrage if they dared to take our upgrades away again. Even the big guilds would mind this time!

That’s what I need. Very detailed. Thank you.
Bad that we already wasted a lot of exotic luck and some shovels.
BTW what is Silverwaste wvw reward track for shovels? what its exact name?

It’s called Silverwastes reward track – you can activate it in the reward tracks section of the wvw panel. The Champion Mordrem Troll Cache in the middle of the reward track is the one containing the shovels.

Don’t worry about having wasted luck, it’s very easy to get the amount needed. Just make sure you upgrade all the luck you get from salvaging to exotic (with the artificing profession) – you’ll be there in no time!

If you play on a European server, feel free to whisper me or send me an in-game mail when you have a date for your capture mission, I’m happy to help out if I can.

Our guild is extremely small and despite that we recently got our +5 back. There were a few major contributors within the guild so I can say that it was achieved by a small number of people. Aside from that, if you want the buff back it will take quite a bit of doing sadly.

hmm strange I cannot reactivate wvw Silverwastes reward track. Is there any special rule to reactivate it?

BladeMate.3517:

hmm strange I cannot reactivate wvw Silverwastes reward track. Is there any special rule to reactivate it?

He meant the Maguuma Wastes on I belive. Silverwastes track isn’t repeatable.

No, I meant the Silverwastes track. The Maguuma one doesn’t give shovels as far as I know. Sucks that you already completed it! But oh well, having to grind a few shovels more won’t make that much of a difference.