Guild Wars 2

LostBalloon.6423:

Rimmy.9217:

LostBalloon.6423:

When you talk about elitists, are you talking about the organized guilds that brought the server all the way up to T1 (moving up the ladder at the same time as BG) or the ones I never heard of that poped up after SoR’s fall from T1? (after every single WvWer jumped ship for very valid internal issues. (which is well represented by your observation of SoR becoming a PvE exclusive server)

The latter – they’re the ones that represented SoR while I was dealing with them. And they were all “Proud to have been on SoR from the very start…” et cetera.

Thanks for the honest answers to you and Sirbeaumerdier. If I can sum up what happened to SoR for the downfall, it was PvE guilds hostility towards the main WvW guilds though with a heavy reliance on us keeping SoR as a performing server. Without getting much more into the details, there is a reason the server is now 99.9% PvE

Agreed. Rimmy doesn’t know jack squat about what has happened on SoR. He is on the outside looking in, and it is a distorted glass window he is peering through.

Fact of the matter is, after the T1 bandwagon moved on, a bunch of us got together to build the community back up. We had a bunch of success. But, towards the end of the summer, we started having internal struggles. One guild had a major split and 100 WvW players moved off the server. Then other guilds that had animosity toward each other started spilling that animosity out publicly and it became very volatile. Then…competition hit, and the SoR community found that with the season, we did not have the resilience that we thought we had. Fingers started pointing at each other for the reason why we lost the first week, a lot of yelling, complaining, etc. Guilds stopped showing up on the battlefield. Fairweathers stopped showing up because we weren’t winning any more. In the end, after the tournament, some major guilds threw in the towel and moved on to other servers. Random players started bleeding to every server BUT SoR. Some smaller guilds trudged on, hoping this would just pass, but after 2-3 weeks of torture on the battlefield of being the only forces, our guilds started bleeding players that were unhappy.

At the end of the day, guilds will play for their guild over their server. And if their guild is losing members or their guild is unanimously unhappy, then change must happen. The remaining (small) guilds that were left on the battlefield decided to move on.

Thing is, even if a guild is a PvX guild but has a large contingent of WvW players that comprises more than half of the guild’s activity, those people are not going to want to stay in a barren wasteland of a battlefield. If a guild is primarily PvE with a very casual mentality to WvW, then there is no reason to go anywhere.

At the very, very end, the PvE-centric guilds, which were now the majority, started severely talking down on those that still enjoyed somewhat competative WvW on the server. These were some of the same people that gave many long hours for a long period of time to try and rebuild the SoR community after the T1 bandwagon off the server. This is why they were still here and didn’t transfer off yet. These few remaining WvW-centric players were backed into a corner and chastised for enjoying WvW and being upset that SoR fell apart in WvW. The PvE players all rose up out of no where; players that have never been active in the community before, all now had something to say when they were the majority, and it became apparent that all SoR wanted to do now was do PvE. In their server meeting and in the forums, their answer to revitalizing WvW on the server was to do community dungeons, community dragon hunts, and EOTM. Naturally, those that enjoy WvW are going to be unhappy and move on. So, those remaining few have….or will be.

How the mighty have fallen…