Guild Wars 2

I don’t understand the need to devalue everything.
I mostly PvE although I do some casual WvWing. I took a break from the game and when I started playing again I found that WvW rank points had been introduced some time while I was on my break.
Despite the fact that I started earning my points late and my casual WvW play I have earned enough rank points to gain full mastery in everything.
Reducing the costs is completely unnecessary. If a casual WvW scrub like me I can get all of the WvW masteries then anyone can.

Just on a side note – it seems that there is current trend to make everything easier for new players and ignore the “veteran” ones. I would suggest that this is counter productive in the long term?

Well I was a little shocked when they said that the avg WvW level was ~300. I thought I was on the low end and I’m at ~830 because of how slowly you gain ranks when you do defense. So I can’t say I mind getting access to another 3-4 more lines, but it wasn’t exactly necessary for me. I am excited for the no gold cost for ups though.

Wallace MacBix.2089:

Well I was a little shocked when they said that the avg WvW level was ~300.

Well, anyone who has never been to WvW will have zero ranks, and anyone who went there solely for the purpose of map completion under the old map completion rules would have a very low WvW rank, and that is just a start.
I have been told that there are people out there who buy secondary, tertiary etc. accounts when they are on a special offer price, set them up on servers which they face in WvW on a regular basis and then only visit WvW on the characters on those accounts when they have a machup against those in order to spy and troll. If such accounts do exist then they would also have a low WvW rank.
In addition to that you have players who went inactive before getting many (if any) WvW ranks as they were not an original feature of the game.
And on top of those you also have the people who have done brief forays into EotM to pick up the “cheap” APs.
I’m sure to have missed a number of reasons why people have low of no WvW ranks.

So taking all of that into account I am surprised that it is even 300, however average WvW rank is a meaningless value unless Anet found a way of only including legitimate active WvW players in their average and excluding the examples I gave above.

Nidome.1365:

Wallace MacBix.2089:

Well I was a little shocked when they said that the avg WvW level was ~300.

Well, anyone who has never been to WvW will have zero ranks, and anyone who went there solely for the purpose of map completion under the old map completion rules would have a very low WvW rank, and that is just a start.
I have been told that there are people out there who buy secondary, tertiary etc. accounts when they are on a special offer price, set them up on servers which they face in WvW on a regular basis and then only visit WvW on the characters on those accounts when they have a machup against those in order to spy and troll. If such accounts do exist then they would also have a low WvW rank.
In addition to that you have players who went inactive before getting many (if any) WvW ranks as they were not an original feature of the game.
And on top of those you also have the people who have done brief forays into EotM to pick up the “cheap” APs.
I’m sure to have missed a number of reasons why people have low of no WvW ranks.

So taking all of that into account I am surprised that it is even 300, however average WvW rank is a meaningless value unless Anet found a way of only including legitimate active WvW players in their average and excluding the examples I gave above.

Kitten like this is one of the reasons why we got NPE’d.

the point is, their stupid metric take just everyone into account…

this includes all absolute not really active players and all banned/inactive players with their “current” wvw rank…

its clear, that under such a calculation the average wvw rank will be very low…
If you would take only active player accounts into the calcuration ,the average wvw rank would be alot higher.

However, personally I have nothing against the change, but removing the wvw buffs for veteran is just still, and if they dont improve finally WvW with fixing the wvw achievements and adding alot of more wvw traits into the game, so that everyone, who has maxed out everythign already gains somethign to to progress with the lots of unspent rank points