Guild Wars 2

I play on Arborstone[FR], and I actually have a lot of fun this week. It’s been since Lineage 2 sieges that I didn’t have so much fun in an MMO. Gratz to Anet for that. Even if loosing, there is always something to protect or to fight for, and also because we see far less hacks and bug abuse than last week (thanks to patching or Deso being fair players, I don’t care).

My concern is that some others US guilds will soon transfer to EU just like RUIN did on Desolation (and some EU to US, for sure). Which is just fine, it’s part of the game. What is not so great, is that this natural balancing can benefit only english-speaking servers. No one would transfer to a server where he can’t communicate.

And please don’t tell me there is massive playerbase in Canada for french servers or in South America for spanish ones. And even then, what about germans?
So, this will end sooner or later with non-english speaking servers drop to the bottom of ladder. Not because of skill lack, juste because they just can’t compete on 24/7 presence due to language spoken on server.

So, I can’t find why Anet had in mind:
0/ they dicided W3 is 24/7, which is their best decision1/ they separate EU and NA ladders, meaning they had foreseen timezones problems
2/ but on the other hand, they say nightcapping is part of the game and any hour played from anywhere has same value (which is OK to me)
3/ since nightcap is rewarded the same as day cap, US transfer to EU to benefit from PvDoor
4/ They try, with unmanned buff, to balance numbers with stats, which – I am sorry to say- is ridiculous. A player, even overbuffed and/or overskilled, cannot be at two places at the same time.
5/ They still didn’t implement player numbers balancing on each map, only a fixed limit. And it will not change, because people would whine even more when they can’t enter.

Do I have a solution? No.
Nightcap is a strategy. But this should be done by people for whom it IS ACTUALLY night. Which is not possible to control. IP-filtering is not a solution, what would happen to french-speaking Oceania/Canada?, what would happen to spanish-speaking South America? And even if we could, it woul unfavor DE servers (no worlwide presence).

My guess is that Anet will just do nothing, simply because there is no fix that can be done. This is all about Entropy. WvW servers will have to all go for English WvW coordination if they want to survive, and specific-langage will be spoken only into guilds or raid teams, and ofc vent/TS/mumble.

Consequences:
1/ Game mechanics ask top-tier servers to be all-timezones international servers, and this will not change anyhow. Language-specific is viable only for non-T1 servers.
2/ Separate ladders will disappear
3/ Language-specific WvW servers will have to welcome english-speaking guilds/alliances
4/ Those NA guilds cannot all transfer to english servers due to queue times
5/ Those NA guilds also want to play with skilled players from FR/ES/DE
6/ All guilds speaking no FR/ES/DE/EN don’t care what server they play on, these are the ones EU servers should recruit first (Russians, Asians, Brasilians…)
7/ A lot of servers will become just like “unofficial <language> server”
8/ There will be no more need for Official specific-language servers
9/ Some specific-language servers will turn PvE and fight english PvE servers in “best daycappers” PvDoor battles.

W3 is like real life, you have to speak english to be competitive.

So here is my call to all EU leaders: Desolation did the good thing, they just adapt to the situation. It’s easier for them because of language. Let’s take it as a challenge! EU needs to gather all non-english speakers players who don’t care what server they play on.
Get in touch with US/Asians/Russians/Brasilians players too or you will necessarily be out of T1. Darwin law, so to say.

It’s not their fault the people on those [FR]/[DE]/[SE] servers don’t want to communicate in english. They chose to be in a server like that. Everything has it’s pro’s and cons.

You can always get french canadians if it really bothers you.

I disagree Centrix. If ANet would have thought this through a little more they would have realized that this would become an issue.

I will propose a SERIOUSLY outrageous sollution at the end of my post.

The problem compounded because of multiple silly decisions.
– Split up EU/NA serverpools
– Create separate language servers
– Say WvW is a 24/7 game
– Nightcapping happens, legit in my opinion
– FREE TRANSFERS TO ANY SERVER POSSIBLE
– As usual this game has more casual players than hardcore players
– Most casual players just want to win

If you combine all of the above you get the following:
– Nightcapping makes guilds leave their timezone
– Some servers get a decent 24 hour force
– Other servers get crushed due to not having such a force
– Casual players want to win, so they leave for the winning servers or stop playing
– Insane population imbalance
– Other server will try to recruit other timezone forces however its hard to recruit if you have been losing people and matchups with a 200-300k difference.

There no longer is a proper solution for this problem.

Stop free transfers?
WvW will be stuck in its current state and die because of insane imbalance

Merge serverpools?
You will still have the bandwagonning of casual players to winning servers and the rest becoming ghost towns.

Limited transfers (what we have now)?
Absolutely useless, the only thing it does is make the current guilds that are on losing servers decide to leave faster before they have to pay for a transfer.

Force English on Language specific servers?
It’s too late for that now.. Why create them in the first place considering if you wanted to make a worldwide competitive game?! English is the “worldwide language of choice” make it that and let all the people that don’t speak it find eachother through forums. No-one is going to go to a fully DE server now if they don’t speak DE.. But DE WILL go to a EN server if they know there are a bunch of DE guilds on it. In the example above you can ofcourse exchange DE with ES/FR.
THIS ISN’T ROCKET SCIENCE ANET.

The only way ANet could have created a proper 24/7 wargame of WvW is if they:
– Created one big serverpool (there would have been a bigger spread of nationalities and timezones to begin with and thus already deleting a big part of the “night/morningcapping” stuff..)
– ALL servers would be EN (non-EN would find eachother anyway)
– Limited transferring (like a max of 5 free transfers OR once per 1/2/3 months)

Outrageous sollution as promised:

- Recreate WvW alltogether
– Tell players they will have to assign themselves to a new server in starting (let’s say) December 1st 2012.
– Create a single worldwide serverpool (no EU/NA tags, no language specific tags)
– Let people talk to eachother on forums and whatnot to try and create as much of a 24 hour force or atleast make an informed decision
– After the big switch transfers should be immediately limited to once per month or a fixed amount of free transfers, people had the chance to make an informed decision. Now live with it and make it work.

What I think/hope this will create is:
– PvE players on PvE servers with casual WvW
– PvP players on PvP server with competitive WvW
– WvW players on WvW players with hardcore WvW
– FINALLY ridding yourself (ANet) of this timezone issue
– FINALLY ridding yourself (ANet) of masses crying about night/morningcapping
– FINALLY ridding yourself (ANet) of bandwagonning and thus crying over queues

I KNOW this is a completely outrageous sollution to the issue, but in my opinion a complete table flip of the system is the only way to solve it. Creating a null point from which we restart everything as best as humanly possible.

GreenGrin I really think you are spot on with what you are saying. Props to realizing this and (once again) bringing it to the attention of the community in such an objective way.

Centrix you are right in that people could have predicted this happening. You cannot however expect every player to predict this and in consequence move to an english speaking server straight away. It will take time for them to realize this and untill then servers like mine [Deso] will have the upper hand coverage-wise.

Oh by the way I for my part am German and I did play on Abbadons Mouth before transfering to Desolation about 5-6weeks ago. My main reason for transfering is that I prefer the international community and the experience of coordinating with people from all over the world.

I’m very happy to have made the transfer, but I did have the advantage of having lived in the UK for two years so I am able to speak English properly. Sadly (due to the horrible German school system) not every player from Germany will be able to just transfer to an international server.

For everyone who does however know basic English and wants to transfer: Just do it! People will understand what you want even if your English is not perfect (basically if you are able to understand this post you should be fine!). People are generally welcoming to German players (at least for me this was the case) and most importantly: playing this game with English communications will actually imrpove your English-skills!

Thanks for reading everyone and once again: Great OP GreenGrin!

- Bloodsteel

Thorvald.5432:

You cannot be realistic an expect language server to recruit US guilds.
This go both ways. Little reason for US to go on non-english server and Little reason for non-english to accept US players.

The solution cannot come players. That is just an unrealistic dream.

I personally fed up with this situation getting worst weeks by weeks.

ANet it is time for you to act and provide us solutions !
Stop letting players do the balance ! You know this cannot work on the long run.
At very least, you should state your point of view on the current situation

They did. You just need to read it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Night-Capping-and-YOU/first

Did you even read that message ?
How the hell is this related to EU brackets ? Where do you see any mention about US players playing on EU ?

Tell me because I must be blind.

It says WvW is a 24/7 battle. ANet lets any player play on any server. => Result. Done.

Every one of you that has posted thus far on this thread speaks nearly perfect English.
What is preventing you from transferring to an English server that has a ’night’ population?

I don’t mean to sound rude but you could be proactive and move your guild if this is as big of a concern as you make it. You could be German and play on the English server there is nothing stopping you, only your Commander needs to be able to communicate in English and even that is not a big concern.

Most of our off hours guilds on Sanctum of Rall (US) are of Taiwanese and Malaysian descent, they don’t speak a lick of English beyond ’yes, no, come, go’ but that’s enough to get by.

Because we have friends who do not speak english ?
Because we like our community ?

Why can’t you bring your friends with you?

It worked pretty well in the RvR games before.

sigh….srsly this generation will fail at everything. You guys care about a balance tool more than you actually care about improving yourself or the game experience.

You guys know that you wont win anything from beeing in the first bracket? Its just a balance tool not the goal of WvW, get it finally in your little number obsessed mind.

What’s the point of EU/US Brackets and SP/DE/FR servers then ?

Server titles are just basic guidelines to direct players where to go if they are unsure of a good destination. Every server is hosted in Austin, Texas so there’s no advantage on being on one server over another.

Toubzsky.6087:

What’s the point of EU/US Brackets and SP/DE/FR servers then ?

To communicate with people in your native language maybe?
Most of you guys seem to lack experience in playing international games.
It ends up in racist spammfests agains french, US, russian or german…. actually against everyone because racism is international business.

To be honest it’s an international game.

I am not sure why you’re complaining, you got your language servers and decided to play on them. There is an even bigger population that does not have English as a primary language and plays on general servers because they don’t have any other option.

Be happy that it’s easy to find people that speak the same language be joining an FR, DE, SP server. If you don’t like how this impacts your wvw/international presence then go play a server that does not have that restriction.

What you dont understand is, on the EU brakets ~50% of the servers are National server.
So what do we do? We let 13 servers die because 1 US (big)guild think EU doors are more challenging than US players?

I don’t see an issue here

You have two choices, you can play on your native language server with no ’night’ crew or you can move to an english speaking server and have a ’night’ crew.

I understand that those are not the choices you want, but what you’re asking for is unfair to most. The vast majority of players playing this game do speak English and not allowing them to freely move where they choose to keep the game ’fair’ for your small contingent of non-English speaking players is selfish and greedy.

about 1/3 of servers on EU brackets are german, you think this is a minority of non-english speaker ?
It seems that people outside germany and france cannot fully grasp the language barrier this two country faces.

Peetee.9406:

Server titles are just basic guidelines to direct players where to go if they are unsure of a good destination. Every server is hosted in Austin, Texas so there’s no advantage on being on one server over another.

EU Server are not in Texas.

Haralin.1473:

Peetee.9406:

Server titles are just basic guidelines to direct players where to go if they are unsure of a good destination. Every server is hosted in Austin, Texas so there’s no advantage on being on one server over another.

EU Server are not in Texas.

Yes they are, every server is in Texas.

Toubzsky.6087:

What you dont understand is, on the EU brakets ~50% of the servers are National server.
So what do we do? We let 13 servers die because 1 US (big)guild think EU doors are more challenging than US players?

Why would those servers die?
They’ll go down in the ranking because they don’t have a full 24/7 W vW coverage There’s no reason for those servers to die as long as people speaking the same language want to stay together there.

Toubzsky,

As many other Europeans my first language is not English and it’s not one of the options for a server. I’m not too bothered by this either as it’s what I’m used to and it’s generally more fun to play with people from all over. You had the option and you made your choice.

Lets rephrase the question like this: the people that are in EU and are not playing standard EU hours are a problem too? Having US players is no different then having a big off peak community and seems a reasonable way to improve your servers coverage.

On NA you have people playing from all over the world. The main reason that hasn’t happened on EU is because people are worried about latency. If EU servers are indeed located at the same datacenter as the NA ones and that had been known before then more non-EU players might have joined EU servers.

Peetee.9406:

Haralin.1473:

Peetee.9406:

Server titles are just basic guidelines to direct players where to go if they are unsure of a good destination. Every server is hosted in Austin, Texas so there’s no advantage on being on one server over another.

EU Server are not in Texas.

Yes they are, every server is in Texas.

No. EU servers are in Frankfurt, germany.

What we are seeing here is two fundamentally opposed visions of the world.

On one side you have supporters of state intervention, saying that the market can’t regulate by itself and there is a need from a central government to take actions in order to balance the brackets. This is obviously a typical French mentality, that we share with German people to some extent.

And on the other side, the adepts of deregulation, of the Invisible Hand so dearly speaked of by Adam Smith, and this is a typical American/British mentality.

We are not reasoning on the same principles, so communication between those two points of view is almost impossible.

The Invisible Hand side will always side “get pro-active move over english speaking servers if you want to be competitive”, and the lazy-welfare-state-supported-unemployed French (joking, i’m French too you know) will always say “okay, but we can’t force everyone to move over, so any individualist approach will not work”. And i think they are both right to some extent, but ultimately the solutions to that problem are absolutely not the same depending on your point of view.

let them integrate google translate with map chat

Greengrin, you are also forgetting one important thing.. You NEED to have Servers with international communities, and they will always have larger player bases and more coverage of time zones. I’ll give you an example, mine.. I am french, like you are, however I have always lived outside of france, and throughout the years of friendships, in RL and in-game(s) have made friends from ALL over, including but not limited to: US, China, South America, and ofc EU. I am now in the same guild i have been in for more than 4 years, since AION.. And we always went to english speaking servers, because MOST players speak english, and these servers are always the most fun, being a melting pot of cultures, and Ventrilo / TS is always hilarious due to all the accents..:P

Regardless, I would have to say i’m ‘OK’ for there being language specific servers (although I am much more for just chucking everyone in english speaking servers, and let the ones that cant speak it form language specific guilds – and maybe have language specific map chats), but I would also say that unless FR servers turn up the volume and overpopulate, they shouldn’t expect to always be on top of a game, for that reason. And please dont tell me it’s ‘unfair’ because that would simply translate to me as someone telling me it’s not fair that his neighbor who has a PH.D and worked hard all his life earns more money than him.

The only other solution would be for W3 to have pools, all English/international servers in one pool, and all language SPECIFIC servers in a different pool. But I dislike that idea because it would reduce the pool sizes, and its always fun fighting vs someone new

U people choice not play with the rest of the world, and sit in your little one nation corner. Sit in that corner and don’t point fingers towards the rest of the world.
Personally can’t wait till u all drop out of T1 and we have international servers in top.

If all the non-english speaking servers have a low server population, you’ll probably all be matched against each other and lower tier EU servers. So things should be pretty even for you, right?
Who cares about tier rankings, it’s all arbitrary nonsense. The wvwvw ladder’s main purpose is not to let worlds brag about who is the best and greatest, it is to match your server with other servers of similar ability to provide you with the best match possible.
If the best match for your server’s level happens to be lower on the ladder, then that’s where you will get the best fights.

No point getting so hung up on ladder rankings. It’s not like the top ranked servers get anything other than bragging rights and free kitten extensions. Oh, and lots of server transfers too.

One server doesn’t care about fun, only about winning, so they begged US guilds to come over so they would never have fair competition again. Because 1 server did this now 26 others have to ‘adapt’.

Vizunah, Arborstone and Elona Reach deserve tier 1. Desolation would be swapping between tier 3 and 4 right now if they were one time zone like every other European server.

It’s Anet fault for making a bad system that is ruled by transfers and time zone issues but Desolation are the real ones to blame. They have free will, they didn’t have to try to ruin wvw for Europe just because they couldn’t stand loosing.

Blacktide are not a T1 server. T3/4 and only gain progression through offpeak capping.

Well just to point out the obvious, it is a little unusual to have the top 3 servers in Europe being language specific. For the most part your players are confined to a single timezone, compared to almost every other server who has a player base split across Europe (before the NA players got involved). Obviously there was some coordination for certain gaming communities to pick certain servers, but that is always going to be a small fraction of the total players, the rest who just picked whatever server at random. All other things being equal you would have expected that geographically diverse servers would have had an advantage over single timezone ones. One would suspect the main reason this wasn’t the case was that ANet underestimated the interest in language specific servers in comparison to the multilingual ones. The result of this is that some servers ended up with player numbers far outreaching the numbers on the others, in the graphs that ANet released, at that point Vizunah had queues reaching 500 people, across all the borderlands, much longer than any other server (obviously there is a limit to the number of players in a map, but with queues that long, according to the queue data, Vizunah was able to keep its maps full 23 hours a day). Was it “fair” to the other servers in the EU bracket that Vizunah just outnumbered everyone else? Maybe not, and if you asked me in the first week I would have said definitely not, but in the end I realized that tier 1 doesn’t mean you have better players, or will have better matches, it just means that only the servers you are matched with have the numbers to give you a challenge (obviously there is more to it than just numbers, but they are by far the largest deciding factor). At the time I accepted that my server wasn’t tier 1 and I just hoped we would drop as quickly as possible, rally, and then fight our way into whatever tier we actually belonged in.

Now the equation has changed, the language specific servers that once had an “unfair” advantage now have to face off against servers with a different advantage. Maybe that advantage is unfair, but it is no more unfair than the one the language specific servers were given (or at least some of them, there are always servers that are less popular for whatever reason). Obviously there is a certain part of your playerbase who would prefer to play on a tier 1 server and live under the illusion that they are “better” than the players in the lower tiers. But for anyone who is serious about WvW the only thing that matters is that whatever tier you are in, you are matched against servers which reasonably equal to you, so that fights can remain competitive and fun and not be decided by Monday.

hi

im german and i dont wanna play on a english server cause i just dont like the english language – my language sounds better

AND would A-Net merge everything i would not move to an multiserver i just would stop playing. for me english is no option.
in gw1 german players was the biggest playerbase – so maby you guys think before post things like this

simpel solution?

easy fix

stop US on EU and stop EU on US

easy? ye i know

Really? i always thought german sounded like someone having an unpleasant bowel movement…..

There are Koreans and Australians on our NA servers who cant speak english, and they play here just fine. Go join an English speaking server, your guild chat doesnt magically turn to english

You have every right to play on a server for your language only but I don’t see why your complaining about this move. I doubt every EU server will have a mass influx of American guilds.
Only time our server lost because of another server nightcapping (never dominating during the day, just scoring mass points at night) was actually against a French server.

I do find it amusing to see Americans/English people blaming the other nationalities for joining language specific servers when I constantly see Americans trying to force English on other nationalities on this game. Allot of you still don’t seem to realise English isn’t everyone’s language.

Its give or take.

You rolled on a 1 nation server, deal with that or move to a international server.
You cannot blame EU / USA servers for inviting multiple time zone coverage as we already now and witnessed that WvW is a 24/7 thing.

You have 2 options stick with your 1 nation server or move to international server where englishj is spoken in chat.

Why would English dictate the rules of a game and also the way the winning side is going to ? Germany and France have huge communities and they’re the most dedicated one at that as we can see with nightcapping mobilization and other kind of tough organization no other server was able to do. They have more than a right to be able to compete about anything else, what they’ve been doing all those past week.

Why are you trying to put rules like “hey english NEED to be winning or this isn’t a game” ? That’s exactly how this story feels like. EU isn’t NA, and EU shouldn’t become NA, since it’s tagged EU anyway.

I agree with Romek, and other people in another similar thread. There are solutions which can keep the current configuration, why changing them ? Except if you want to remove OVER half of EU players because they’re big enough to resist your English conquista (all german, french and SP servers have high pop or more, and they’re 13/27 EU servers) ?

Pherenice.8124:

Its give or take.
You have 2 options stick with your 1 nation server or move to international server where englishj is spoken in chat.

This is exactly what I ment in my post, don’t act like English is the superior language and act as if people on other languaged servers are worth less.

Biggest nightcappers we always face on SFR are germans…..

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A huge part of Stormbluff Isle’s WvW community is made up of Koreans and Southeast Asians. That means a huge part of Stormbluff Isle’s WvW community doesn’t speak, or speaks very little, English.

Still, it’s been great running with them. We know they work hard, and they know we work hard. That’s all that matters, I think. Just a little mutual respect despite the language barrier.

Treble.1563:

A huge part of Stormbluff Isle’s WvW community is made up of Koreans and Southeast Asians. That means a huge part of Stormbluff Isle’s WvW community doesn’t speak, or speaks very little, English.

Still, it’s been great running with them. We know they work hard, and they know we work hard. That’s all that matters, I think. Just a little mutual respect despite the language barrier.

This is not the probleme here, you really think that they’d be in SI if they had Asian bracket like EU ? Well it’s not EU anymore thanks to Desolation [NA].

In order to be succesful having a server comprised of many different international zones helps a lot.

And i dont think you can really contest the idea that servers that are aimed at a specific, non-english speaking, demographic, will simply not have that broadness.

I dont see it as an issue. It is no secret that international coverage is going to fare better once the nationalities start to mix. That seems to be what Arenanet wanted and why transfers have been free for so long, to get this flow of players going between different servers.
Its even something theyve openly spoke about before release. So playing on a single-nation/language server will run you into problems.

Desolation is a prime example, despite the kittening and moaning, this is simply the future. National servers had their advantage early on before these migrations, but they will fall out of fashion. And when you think about it, it makes sense. One single country on one single timezone simply cannot ever hope to compete in a 24/7 battleground against servers that have the flexibility to allow for better round the clock coverage.

Server transfers are still open, so nothing is stopping you from moving to any other server.
And if you do not speak english, i pity your educational system. But that shouldnt restrict the way the rest of us play the game. Idealy i wouldve liked it if there werent any language specific servers at all. To late for that now however.

Psy.6153:

There are Koreans and Australians on our NA servers who cant speak english, and they play here just fine. Go join an English speaking server, your guild chat doesnt magically turn to english

Sorry mate, most of us Aussies speak English pretty fluently. :P

On topic: Yes, international alliances will probably be superior in the LONG run. That’s just the way the world works. Open your arms and welcome them or push them away and suffer the consequences, basically. The servers are not region locked and if that isn’t going to happen, then that is how the system is going to work (even that can be circumvented if desired).

I have been in guilds that are entirely Polish, Dutch, Swedish, Thai guilds etc.. on many games and yeah there were language barriers there – we still coordinated together at a highly functional level in-game and as a bonus we also helped each other learn the basics of our language. It’s basically like saying “businesses that cater to international people will be more successful!” – what did you expect, really?

Thing is its only the germans who wont have same speaking server mates in different time zones.

Spanish, French and English are spoken in different time zones everywhere. Maybe the Germans can recruit the Russians. Sure bet theres some very close links with the old GDR days.

NEW WORLD ORDER!

I think a lot of you guys are misunderstanding the point here.
OP isn’t sad that FR DE and ES servers will not be able to reach the top of the WvW anymore.
He/she just want to say that with those server transfers there is absolutely no need for a US ranking and an EU ranking. Make it a worlwide ranking. All the problems about nightcapping whining and crying are gone because everyone will now play the same game.

Cheers.

Epoch.5396:

Thing is its only the germans who wont have same speaking server mates in different time zones.

Spanish, French and English are spoken in different time zones everywhere. Maybe the Germans can recruit the Russians. Sure bet theres some very close links with the old GDR days.

NEW WORLD ORDER!

Are you comparing Québec to NA + rest of Canada ? Please France don’t have any big oversea territory which is why there’s barely any on french servers already. And they won’t transfer any time soon, and why forcing them to transfer ? If they’re fine where they are leave them there !
About Spain indeed they have a big population, but those population are used to playing on NA, why moving them just because some NA players felt like comming ?
Because yeah, I guess there are some mexican or argentinian in BB, but when you know spain’s way of life (especially in the south) you realize it’s totally plausible that this server is mostly comprised by spanish. People in spain go to bed incredibly late (or wake up early) and sleep during the day because of the south’s hotness, heck their dinner is at 1h am (that’s how it was when I lived there) ! That’d pretty much explain how they’re strong at the night.

The OP has a point here. I have played with non-English speakers in other MMO’s with world PvP, and there is a challenge here. There are plenty of non-English speakers who are willing to work with English speakers. I’ve met some great Hispanic players, Italian players, German, etc. etc. over the years. But what the OP is talking about here I think is a very general problem, and that is there is a yet another barrier to communication when playing with people who speak another language whether we are conscious of this barrier or not.

We all know that communication is the basis of any kind of success in this game. I think a lot of English speakers sometimes are not aware of or forget how difficult non-English speakers find it to communicate with us. When we jump into their game, this suddenly becomes apparent. This is one reason why I will never move to an EU server.

No offense, but the German and the French pulled fast ones on others, in RL and in games.
French and German players tend to stick together due to their insane numbers.
Other EU players usually go on an multi server, along with the British.
You can look at it this way, multi servers are the British servers with people from other nation joining in because we like how polite the britts are.

GreenGrin.7943:

I play on Arborstone[FR]

Arborstone and Vizunah showed bad diplomacy and bad tactics this week, and should be out of tier 1. Both.

If T1 becomes english-speaking only, that’s because english speakers understand diplomacy and tactic. Some people think that WvW is 1v1. French people think WvW is 1v1v1. But for good tacticians and diplomats, WvW is 2v1.

I see Germans doing better than French in a few weeks.