Guild Wars 2

Do we really need seasons twice a year to get more people interested in WVW?
Does it really interest people? Is it positive for WvW or negative as all seasons so far enfored stronger server imbalances. As WvW is based on a scoring function that measures nothing elase than how many off-time player a server has these leagues aren’t a competition in any sense anyway.

The most positive point of the seasons are the achievements that come with them.
But do we need seasons to have better achievements?

I think just better achievements would do WvW better than leagues. But some competition is nice as wellso lets have competitive achievements.

Here are idea for such achievements. Each week (i.e. for each match), the system selects randomly 5-10 achievements from the list below, these achievements are equal for all server:

• Sum of delivered supplies by successful Dolly escort events.
• Sum intercepted supplies by successful Dolly kill events (Dolly’s are standing goalless in the camp do not count)
• Sum of successfully defended supplies at Camp defense events
• Sum of the successfully conquered supplies at Camp conquest events (Before the reduction by upgrade reset, i.e. full 250ziger stock = 250 pts)
• Sum of successfully defended supplies at Tower Defense events (Count the remaining supplies at the end of the event)
• Sum of the successfully conquered supplies at Tower conquest events
• Sum of successfully defended supplies at keep defense events
• Sum of the successfully conquered supplies at keep conquest events
• Sum of successfully defended supplies at Stome Mist defense events
• Sum of the successfully conquered supplies at Stone Mist conquest events
• Participation in successful mercenary defeat events
• Participation in successful mercenary acquisition events
• Participation in successful events of conquest of guards
• Siege Refresh Sum of the minutes since last siege refresh (if the timer is down to 45min at the moment you refresh, you get credited 15 min).
• Sum of the remaining refresh minutes when destroying enemy siege
• Sum of spended gold for objective upgrades

This is determined per match for all players the end of the match

• There are 2 achievement points for each of the (10) categories where you among the top 50% of the players.
• 2 more achievement points, if you belong to the top 33% of players.
• 1 additional achievement points if you made it into the top 100.

Also all ranks you reached in the 10 categories are summed up (lowest sum is best) into an overal contribution achievement

• for being in the top 50% gets 10 pts,
• top 33% further 10 points, and
• top 100 further 5 points

The top 100 players of the overal contribution are also pubklished in the leader board in the new category WVW contribution https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/.

A very active WvW player can thus get per week of up to 75 achievements points, but in mean it is around 20 achievement point per player
This corresponds to approximately what you can achieve on average per week through the bi-weekly living story.

Sorry but most people that play WvW do not care for achievement points at all.

What else weapon skins?

Or why did so many people do the season achievements such that ANet is believing that it was a success?

Competitive achievements are a different story than check-mark achievements as well and last but not least, some rewards for doing the unwanted WvW-jobs like dolly escort, siege refresh, scouting aren’t a bad thing as well.

And of course achievements you aren’t interested in are easier to ignore than the massive balance destroying player moves due to seasons.

Details and concerns aside, you are always free to propose more rewards for my daily routine.

I proposed to make an individual competition out of your “daily routine”

If i kill lot’s of players in EotM match i deserve lot’s of gold, ascended weapons and all kind of expensive stuff. Weird thing is that when i play green we win whole time and now when i play blue we still win. So give me some rewards.

Not from me, I see EotM already as over rewarded, make your own proposal for EotM rewards, mine are meant to be doable in classical WvW only (or do you really want to have all these defense achievement hunters in EotM, a EotM tower could look like a Kodash keep then)

Vermillion.4061:

Sorry but most people that play WvW do not care for achievement points at all.

I disagree with this post. I have been trying very hard to get 6000 AP to get the radiant shoulders because I really like them. Unfortunately I really only do WvW with very little PvE. Having such unobtainable WvW achievements and the lack of anymore really sucks when trying to earn AP mainly because I have to go do content that I do not want to do to get AP. Even if the sum of the weekly achievements in WvW were 50 AP I would be happy with that since I know eventually I could earn my AP rewards just playing the gamemode I like.

I had to go do queens gauntlet to get AP because it was like 300 AP for all of the achievements. I absolutely despised doing it because its not the content I enjoy. PvE’ers get AP for every living story while the only LS WvW’ers got was the one for Edge of the mists which was abysmal.

So to address your comment im going to have to disagree with your assumption that WvWers don’t want Achievement points.

Last thing I want is more Achievement hunters flooding WvW and working on thier achievement points instead of playing the game. WvW is about the game mode, if it is one you enjoy or not isn’t really the point.

Not Loot.
Not achievements.

Sorry but if you are trying to get those points, then maybe you should be playing another portion of the game.

Not really surprising that the most overstocked WvW server does not want more people in WvW

• would mean more queue for them
• would mean more people on the opponent side, enabling them to beat BG

But if you would read more carefully, I proposed a competition between WvW players, and as soon as PvE player notice, that they hardly belong to the better 50% in these WvW activities, such that they get nothing for their effort, they stay away.

And I proposed one that sets different foci every week, with the intention to vary the goals of WvW a bit each weak. E.g. if SM defense is selected trebbing SM, would be a strategy where the players from the other server get ahead in their achievements, not you. In a week where both dolly escort & dolly kill are selected there will be heavy small-scale battle for Dollies.

So I think with such an idea we can get:

• slightly different foci each week
• individual competition e.g. to be the best NA/EU-wide dolly slapper of the week
• achievements comparable with PvE

As WvW-rewards are currently under investiation, maybe it’s time to reanimate this proposal I would still like very much.

I’m not an Achievements hunter, they come naturally. What I would like to see more of is a quarterly weekend match, 48 hours long, lock out transfers prior to announcement and give out the WvW Tournament tickets. Oh and the score based strictly on PPK.

Edit: Lock out ALL siege except Rams.