Guild Wars 2

I give this dude props for making this video. https://youtu.be/YSgRSxsu0kM He explains very well everything that is wrong with WvW. Anet if you haven’t already then please do watch this video and see for yourself why a lot of players are quiting. There are a lot of players out there who are passionate about this game mode but they are all quiting because their voices are not being heard.

Polls are great but seriously tho if you want to make WvW great again I think you listen to passionate players like him and they will tell you how to exactly make WvW great again. HoT was a great expansion for pve and pvp but for WvW not so much. The bullkitten upgrade system we got really kittened a lot of people off. We WvW players do not give a single kitten about those new upgrade system they are literally kitten and promote tower hugging/siege humping. The only WvW upgrades most WvWers literally only care for that 5 and +10. We do not care about those stupid banners, we do not care about if siege 70% less damage, we do not care if gates take damage only from siege, we do not care for the that ,100 power or +100 vitality or +100 precision in our keeps we do not care about it. If you were to revert this upgrade systems and give us something else I can guarantee a lot of players will return to the game. We rather choose what upgrades we want to do in our keeps first and yell at someone if they start to drain supplies I know that was annoying but that made things fun it made players either quit or just log on until one day something similar to WvW type game comes out like Camelot Unchained. Anet beside tweaking the bs upgrades you guys gave us how about just revert them because one day WvW will be completely dead and then you guys are going to have to revert everything to bring players back so how about you just do it now and make us all happy.

Desert borderlands are beautiful bls but they are not meant to be a borderland map that map feels and plays more out like an EBG map. If you want that map to be useful and loved it’s best if you just turn into ebg map and I think a lot of people will actually start enjoying that map. People want to get involved with WvW but there isn’t much there for players to get involved with anymore.

Competitive WvW something that anet never gave a kitten about if they had I think WvW would be still a lot more fun but I guess pvp is all they care about since they “make more money” out of it. I know one of the devs said after every season a lot of WvW players quit well of course they are going to quit because they burnt out. If you make the season 1 month long every 6 months I think a lot of players would stick around and play WvW regularly. Yes the GvG scene something I enjoyed the most someting anet didn’t give a kitten about at all something they actually tried to stop people from doing. GvG scene was literally the most fun part for me out of everything and know a lot of people who missed GvGs but it’s dead you know why? Because all the competitive guilds and players quit the game because anet never gave a kitten about us. I don’t even think anet ever had a WvW team until they started working on ghetto expansion. Bring back season first let new blood flow into WvW let new guilds form and grow then bring in WvW ladder system like PvP. Durong off season guilds will compete each other to get a spot in the on season tournament. Bring back that competitive WvW I bet a lot of skilled players and guilds will come back make GvG a thing have short WvW seasons.

Another thing, remember one reset nights used to be fun? But you guys kittened us over with staturday night reset and then you changed it to the Friday an hour late reset lol yeah revert that too because that kitten is really kittening late for us East Coast players and West coast players don’t even talk about an hour early reset being too early for you guys because serious you got the whole evening to play where us east coast players do not some of us are tired from work or have work the next day so please don’t even. 9pm est reset time and 8pm est reset time with daylight savings was and is and will be perfect.

There are still a lot of passionate players and commanders out there and they all want best for this game mode listen to them anet!! Reach them out personally! Ask them what’s best for WvW I am sure they have amazing ideas to give you guys!

yawn

This again.

Lets have a look at his Youtube channel and see how he tried so desperately to draw views, now he gets emo.

At best he was a “Never-was” now he is a “Has-been”.

He has some valid arguments but when tied with an “Ima quit” crap it all goes down the toilet IMHO.

Why create a thread when the video maker himself has created a thread on it?

Trajan.4953:

yawn

This again.

Lets have a look at his Youtube channel and see how he tried so desperately to draw views, now he gets emo.

At best he was a “Never-was” now he is a “Has-been”.

He has some valid arguments but when tied with an “Ima quit” crap it all goes down the toilet IMHO.

Well I think you and I can both agree that a lot of guilds and players have already quit or are just waiting it out.

It is the end of the road for WvW and it’s players. It is absurd to get stuck fighting the same servers month after month. This in itself creates cancerous forums and attitudes toward each other.

Baratta.1083:

It is the end of the road for WvW and it’s players. It is absurd to get stuck fighting the same servers month after month. This in itself creates cancerous forums and attitudes toward each other.

When the most just want to fight empty towers…. not much it is to be done, still Anet has done more harm to the game than make it “grow”.

Lets release something broken wiht no fixes, and then had something to cover it…..

He did make some good points, while I didn’t agree with all, most is true.

One mention that players in this particular game are cancerous is true, isn’t it for all games though. However, what I find interesting is the hate he gets “good ridden” for example in the forum already.

Various servers hate DK from Yaks Bend, lots loved to hate on T. Bravos FA, I seem to remember one from Darkhaven named Triden or something who would get constant whisper spam, Bannock from SBI days, and the list goes on. Even my awful driving commanding self had experiences on Kaineng when they were last place in wvw of getting constant mails or pms “go kill yourself *”. The level of rage in this game is a bit concerning so I kinda get what the laughing seal guy was talking about. This game can certainly bring out the worst in people.

You know what wvw needs? Guys/gals like the ones mentioned above. We need people to despise. It’s what makes gaming so fun and competitive. But yet, the laughing seals guy posts his honest thoughts and people are already jumping on the “good ridden” train or “what a salty kitten”.

Wvw needs all the players they can hold onto. While you don’t have to like the guy, it’s another loss and people who followed him in his guild/group may be inclined to stop playing the game or reduce their time, thus we all suffer in the community.

Baratta.1083:

It is the end of the road for WvW and it’s players. It is absurd to get stuck fighting the same servers month after month. This in itself creates cancerous forums and attitudes toward each other.

Their glicko system is just kittened. They increase volatility and whatnot after server links and we end up in the same place, same severs fighting each other week after week. When will they realise they need to fundamentally change the system?

Dude, could you stop making duplicate threads and just respond to the other threads already in place? It’s not like they’re 5 pages back, they’re still on the front page.

Original thread of the video.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/So-long-guild-wars-2-World-vs-World/first#post6209288

EBG desert thread.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/EBG-Desert-Map-3-Alpine-BL-s/first#post6208657

Your desert to EBG thread.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Turn-desert-bl-into-ebg/first#post6209120

WvW is too big…

Why does it have 4 maps?

Reduce it to one map per match up then split up those big servers that don’t even know each others and you would get 4 times as many possible opponents.

The 4 maps are the biggest issue to wvw currently.

Xenesis.6389:

Dude, could you stop making duplicate threads and just respond to the other threads already in place? It’s not like they’re 5 pages back, they’re still on the front page.

Original thread of the video.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/So-long-guild-wars-2-World-vs-World/first#post6209288

EBG desert thread.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/EBG-Desert-Map-3-Alpine-BL-s/first#post6208657

Your desert to EBG thread.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Turn-desert-bl-into-ebg/first#post6209120

If you would have read both my posts I literally made a lot of different points and guess what you can create one too it’s a free country and it’s all part of democracy.

RodOfDeath.5247:

He did make some good points, while I didn’t agree with all, most is true.

One mention that players in this particular game are cancerous is true, isn’t it for all games though. However, what I find interesting is the hate he gets “good ridden” for example in the forum already.

Various servers hate DK from Yaks Bend, lots loved to hate on T. Bravos FA, I seem to remember one from Darkhaven named Triden or something who would get constant whisper spam, Bannock from SBI days, and the list goes on. Even my awful driving commanding self had experiences on Kaineng when they were last place in wvw of getting constant mails or pms “go kill yourself *”. The level of rage in this game is a bit concerning so I kinda get what the laughing seal guy was talking about. This game can certainly bring out the worst in people.

You know what wvw needs? Guys/gals like the ones mentioned above. We need people to despise. It’s what makes gaming so fun and competitive. But yet, the laughing seals guy posts his honest thoughts and people are already jumping on the “good ridden” train or “what a salty kitten”.

Wvw needs all the players they can hold onto. While you don’t have to like the guy, it’s another loss and people who followed him in his guild/group may be inclined to stop playing the game or reduce their time, thus we all suffer in the community.

I agree with you. Sometimes I also think they should just do a big bang for the servers have 9 servers open let’s people join those sever once those server get full them open new ones and giver everyone one or two free transfers but I can see this creating a lot of problems.

Need to just go to alliances and even them all out + add a couple tiers. It’s complicated but need to use any data collected on when players play most and try to smooth out the time zones a bit. Need to keep alliances somewhat even as people go inactive + let guilds manage protected wvw alliance spots or something. Maybe inactive loses the spot unless a guild specially protects it (long vacations etc).

Hard to solve but without somewhat smoothing out population and coverage wvw will never work. Leaving the 24/7 format makes it something different and worse imo.

There are other issues after dealing with that. It would probably solve the stale match ups and give wvw a more guild based focus but we would still need balance stuff and fresh maps at the very least.

I’ve yet to find anything close to wvw. It most matches a game I played long ago but it’s better and in greater scope. I have little doubt that newbies will keep trickling in even as vets get ticked off and leave.

Reh.5986:

Need to just go to alliances and even them all out + add a couple tiers. It’s complicated but need to use any data collected on when players play most and try to smooth out the time zones a bit. Need to keep alliances somewhat even as people go inactive + let guilds manage protected wvw alliance spots or something. Maybe inactive loses the spot unless a guild specially protects it (long vacations etc).

Hard to solve but without somewhat smoothing out population and coverage wvw will never work. Leaving the 24/7 format makes it something different and worse imo.

There are other issues after dealing with that. It would probably solve the stale match ups and give wvw a more guild based focus but we would still need balance stuff and fresh maps at the very least.

I’ve yet to find anything close to wvw. It most matches a game I played long ago but it’s better and in greater scope. I have little doubt that newbies will keep trickling in even as vets get ticked off and leave.

Right seriously WvW is the game mode I love and no other game provides a game mode like this well a lot of people are talking about Camelot Unchained but let’s be real the combat system is going to be completely kittening different and I love gw2 combat system I think that is one of the main reasons why people enjoy WvW in gw2.

CrimeMaker.8612:

If you would have read both my posts I literally made a lot of different points and guess what you can create one too it’s a free country and it’s all part of democracy.

We all have different points to topics, doesn’t mean we need to create new threads about it, even if you think your idea trumps the other.

Not that I would create another topic on desert ebg since I know it’s not a feasible idea given that desert is a bl not an ebg type map, nor do I think a reskin into desert is appealing.