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Posted by: Kraljevo.2801

Kraljevo.2801

Changing reset is not good. Friday and Saturday night are the most fun and the time most fights occur. Not everyone plays on Sunday evening because of work.

Only plebs want to karmatrain on a Friday evening. Please reconsider that change.

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Posted by: cpryme.4830

cpryme.4830

I don’t believe there are any good reasons for this stupid decision to move reset to Saturdays. I’d like them explained. Anet seems so out of touch with what we want, it’s sad. You care more for your precious pvp than you do for the whole entire rest of the game. Oh we get exciting xpac, but we have to wait a whole year for it and any other content. Many people are hanging in by a thread to WvW and not playing the rest of the game because of your lack of care to update anything for a year. Now you screw WvW twice by forcing us onto bad maps and changing reset to a time that seems to benefit no one. Why don’t you listen to your players?

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Posted by: annieoakley.8165

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We’re a PvX guild, and have our WvW rally/guild missions & new raid schedule set – this throws a very large wrench into our plans for post-HoT release. I foresee our numbers dropping with this unexpected change. Indeed, by once again making changes without any forethought to the WvW community, or the guilds at large, Anet degrades the system. I strongly, but respectfully, request the Anet Dev’s to rethink this idea and receive feedback/input from the community at large.

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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  1. WvW’s reset time will be changed to be 24 hours later in NA and EU. It will now occur on Saturdays instead of Fridays.

please reconsider this one

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Posted by: Firelysm.4967

Firelysm.4967

Why moving reset time for 24 hours, it makes no sense just breaking the habit of millions already existing WvW players????
No one requested it, it changes nothing but unpleasant changes, because on Fridays we gather and enjoy resets! No one play on Saturdays, we love to spend time with family and friends!

Please leave Friday as a reset! It was amazing! Ty!

Wish I could get back to GW1.. PvP-GvG. It feels like we are outcasted, not desired or rewarded..

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Posted by: Basedgod.7328

Basedgod.7328

What is the Rationale for this?

You also need to keep in mind of your international playerbase. This moves reset to Sunday to everyone in OCX/SEA, leaving Saturday with those players with nothing to do other than K-train/night cap an already decided matchup.

Friday Reset is perfect. People in this thread have already stated good reasons in this thread. Adding to this, having it on Friday was a great cushion to servers that lack the overnight coverage, since the dawn of the weekend allows the NA/EST population some time to play in the morning/day if they want to shore up peaks of OCX/SEA and EU activity that a server’s community may lack. This move limits that period to 1 day for that cushion to be in effect instead of two.

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Posted by: Malediktus.9250

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The new reset time is horrible

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Posted by: Tyaen.5148

Tyaen.5148

I’ll add my voice to the “Why are you changing reset night?” crowd.

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Posted by: Fizzee.1762

Fizzee.1762

Here’s what the Heart of Thorns release will look like for WvW:

3. WvW’s reset time will be changed to be 24 hours later in NA and EU. It will now occur on Saturdays instead of Fridays.

…. WUT???
I despair.
Just when I thought they might be starting to learn that the EU exists… they somehow forget again…

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Posted by: RiShardV.8456

RiShardV.8456

Has there been any earlier communication about changing the reset times? Because I haven’t caught anything like that and it seems like it has been decided on a whim. Having the reset on fridays is a nice way to start the weekend and also keeps the maps nice and busy for that weekend. I expect cutting the weekend in half will probably do the opposite of getting wvw population higher at the end of a match-up as there will most likely be as much people playing on saturdays as on fridays then. Which means less activity in the weekend and a lower population overall.
Capturing towers might be fun but a lot of players play wvw because of the fights.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

You also need to keep in mind of your international playerbase. This moves reset to Sunday to everyone in OCX/SEA, leaving Saturday with those players with nothing to do other than K-train/night cap an already decided matchup.

Exactly! Not only does this hurt guild membership that has been built up around current reset and raid schedules, it hurts OCX and SEA the most, possibly even EU players on NA servers. They should really move reset to Thursday nights, hurr hurr.

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Posted by: Barabajagal.6147

Barabajagal.6147

Making a rare post to add my voice to the ‘Please don’t change reset time’ crowd.

Change it for launch, by all means, but please not permanently.

Weekends will not be the same or as fun, I for one will be playing less and will not be able to play as late/make as many resets if it’s changed to Saturday.

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Posted by: Mark.1679

Mark.1679

It seriously kittening baffles me that you change nothing of the things we want you to change. but you will change the reset date even while nobody asked for it.
Why? Wich dev thought about it? Seriously, even if you play WvW for an hour a week you would know this change is soooo bad.

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Posted by: Kaiser.9873

Kaiser.9873

Jeez, why don’t they just make reset on Monday then. Friday will now suck, Saturday daytime NA will now suck. This is a terrible move for more reasons than I care to discuss.

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Posted by: Buy Some Apples.6390

Buy Some Apples.6390

Here’s what the Heart of Thorns release will look like for WvW:

  1. On the morning of Thursday, October 22nd, WvW will be terminating without completing or updating Glicko ratings as normal. This will be the end of the classic (“Alpine”) Borderlands maps for the foreseeable future.

So apart from the new WvW replacement map, what else do we get for WvW if we buy HoT?!

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Posted by: Tspatula.9086

Tspatula.9086

Wow, reset on Saturday night…. Can Anet be more clueless? the mind boggles.

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Posted by: xev.9476

xev.9476

Keep reset Friday.

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Posted by: Blade.3456

Blade.3456

Please reconsider the WvW reset time change.

The Oceanic WvW community is already sparse, and this change will reduce the active competitive weekend play to half a day (Sunday afternoon/evening).
Weekends have historically been the most active and fun time to participate in WvW. A change that reduces this by over half, will not help support the much needed Oceanic population growth.

Again, please kindly reconsider the change to WvW reset time.

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Posted by: Avit.3165

Avit.3165

What amazes me most is that no one will come and explain why, once again they show how much they do not care about WvW, how less they know about WvW, from 23.10 WvW weekends will be the most boring part of the game.
On Saturday i work half day from 8 till 12.30 and i still think this is a very very bad idea, but hey Anet cares about our fun, right?
I’m getting more and more certain that i wont buy this HoT x-pac, looks like there is nothing good there for me as a WvW player.

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Posted by: Gellrock.4073

Gellrock.4073

Hell, make reset Thursday night. It won’t be as crowded as a Friday, and would allow a weekday opening followed by heavily populated weekend. Pushing the reset forwards rather than backwards is incredibly dumb.

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Posted by: Xenesis.6389

Xenesis.6389

Maybe one of the reasons is that mini patches they deploy at the end of day friday, won’t interrupt reset night like they do almost every friday night now.

Reset on Saturday now also gives overnight crews ocx/sea one less day to run up a score on the weekend (I really hope this isn’t the reason for it). Then again that kills a day for NA as well, Thursday Friday and most of Saturday will be dead.

Pretty much a bad change.

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Posted by: cpryme.4830

cpryme.4830

Hell, make reset Thursday night. It won’t be as crowded as a Friday, and would allow a weekday opening followed by heavily populated weekend. Pushing the reset forwards rather than backwards is incredibly dumb.

Yeah even Thursday night reset would be better than Saturday. It might even make things more fun.

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Posted by: morrolan.9608

morrolan.9608

  1. WvW’s reset time will be changed to be 24 hours later in NA and EU. It will now occur on Saturdays instead of Fridays.

Please explain the reasoning behind this change.

I wouldn’t mind betting its to ensure WvW reset doesn’t get interrupted by patches any more.

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Posted by: Catchlove.2189

Catchlove.2189

Please reconsider the change in reset timer. I am an Oceanic player, and therefore reset time is currently 10 am Saturday morning for me. Moving the reset time to Sunday basically nulls any reason for an Oceanic player to play on Saturday, whether it be at reset or in Oce prime time.

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Posted by: Sviel.7493

Sviel.7493

Perhaps it’s to encourage large pushes at the end of the week as well as the start?

I dunno…not really a fan of it either way.

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Posted by: MissSamou.6178

MissSamou.6178

I completly HATE the idea of reset on saturdays. To me, it seems like friday night was the best moment for reset and that change just make me cringe.

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Posted by: Fluffball.8307

Fluffball.8307

Perhaps it’s to encourage large pushes at the end of the week as well as the start?

I dunno…not really a fan of it either way.

Not gonna be large pushes at end, it will be k-train at end. This just removes prime playing time from us.

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Posted by: Masteravatar.1509

Masteravatar.1509

Arnet people play more on Weekends ie Saturday,Sunday =max hours

This change will not help existing & " New Customer base"

Oceanic/SEA WvW “PRIMETIME IS SATURDAY”

Please check your DATA and the effect it will have on “CUSTOMERS”

This change will also have a flow on effect for all timezones which will need to reschedule other guild events etc.

^^^ In future please dont launch “Non Critical Patches” during first few hours of reset.

It make the entire WvW community feel like irrelivant plebs of GW2.

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Posted by: unknownchaos.1425

unknownchaos.1425

Instead of Saturday daytime being one of the most active times to play following up reset. You will have created a ghost town for many tiers with this reset change.

Friday night into Saturday WvW will be meaningless and empty.

Honestly I’m now positive that the people who run and develop the WvW content do NOT play it.

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Posted by: Xernth.8561

Xernth.8561

This seems like a really terrible and poorly thought through idea.

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Posted by: cpryme.4830

cpryme.4830

What gets me is that surely they’re reading this? Yet no reply. Are you just ignoring us again or are you actually trying to find a way to listen to us?

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Posted by: Pinkus.2860

Pinkus.2860

What a absolutely terrible idea. Not only does this remove an entire day of frantic, solid and amazing fighting at the start of the reset week, you’re screwing over the OCX / SEA population who were able to spend two full weekend days out fighting for their server. Now we’ll only have the Sunday and the Saturday will now become a boring end of the week ktrain. I’d love to have a conversation with the person who thought up this idea and hear their reasoning behind it…

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Posted by: Scientia.8924

Scientia.8924

Absolutely dumb change, you are screwing over OCX/SEA coverage which is a substantial percentage of WvW players

It was good the way it was before, NOW you decide to change it out of nowhere?

What if HoT turns out to be the Mordrem Invasion event, x100?

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Posted by: Riiko.4512

Riiko.4512

The new reset timing is a slap in the face for SEA players. Most of us have work or school the next day and cannot stay up on a sunday night for the usual reset crucial push. Please explain the rationale behind this change. Thank you.

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Posted by: araskell.9018

araskell.9018

Moving WvW reset form friday night to saturday night is a very stupid idea. NOT happy with this change. I also would like to know why this change? Why? Nobody asked for this, I never seen someone complain about this…. The weekends are the most action packed for WvW, this just makes the whole saturday meaningless…. when a lot of people have time to play. Why Anet, why…. ?

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Posted by: yanoch.7051

yanoch.7051

I think I’m fine with this. Might make end of the match up more meaningful.

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Posted by: displayname.8315

displayname.8315

Good move changing the reset. Having the score tied to weekend OT pushes was killing the fun for a LOT of people. Now the tryhards don’t need to push for 50+ hours and demoralize the other servers.

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Posted by: Sarmach.1547

Sarmach.1547

If you are going to change reset why pick Saturday? I’ve seen a lot of justification about the match being pretty much set for the week by the end of the weekend. If you are trying to mitigate that why not pick Wednesday for reset? That puts the weekend in the middle of the reset cycle and should be more than fair for servers to gain ground before the end of cycle.

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Posted by: PariahX.6970

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I don’t see why they don’t make it a 6 day ‘week’ and have the reset night change every week. Then people who have different work schedules or play time preferences all get ‘optimal’ reset time once and a while.

I don’t see why people are only wanting to fight for points the first few days of WvW but I do see that it happens. Even though with Gliko every point matters so playing on Saturday is just as important as any other day of the week. If you say people don’t care about the Gliko and winning then again why does it matter when reset is, if people are available and playing on Friday it can still be fun fights.

An unexpected side effect of this change that might be super good. People will log in on Friday and early Saturday because it’s the weekend but won’t care to get objectives or defend them so instead they will just fight each other (maybe). This could make the people that like open field fights just to fight have a bit of the weekend to enjoy.

One thing is for sure, things will feel different for a while and then will settle in to a ‘meta’ after a while (for better or worse).

Some very good points Pink. I expect this is just the first step towards changing the length of match-ups as talked about in the last CDI. It might be that soon there will be a 2nd weekly reset happening on Wednesdays and this change will give each match-up 36hrs of “weekend” play time if you could Friday as part of the weekend of course.

Don’t forget they also recently changed when guild mission reset times happen and this could possibly be related to that in some round about server reset mechanism change kind of way.

I am a bit dismayed by how quickly some of you all are ready to jump all over this change as horrid. To be honest at this point wouldn’t we all like to some kind of change to WvW regardless of what? And maybe come the WvW patch (which I expect we wont see till until spring 2016) with more data in hand some better choices could be made. Maybe it has something to do with an upcoming major change to how seasons will work that we don’t know about yet.

I am very interested to see how this change affects the match-ups and play-styles over the rest of the week. New and different is not always a bad thing people.

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Posted by: Blake.7401

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Please reconsider the WvW reset time change.

The Oceanic WvW community is already sparse, and this change will reduce the active competitive weekend play to half a day (Sunday afternoon/evening).
Weekends have historically been the most active and fun time to participate in WvW. A change that reduces this by over half, will not help support the much needed Oceanic population growth.

Again, please kindly reconsider the change to WvW reset time.

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Posted by: HazeBot.3147

HazeBot.3147

Can we get anything explanation as to why the change to Saturday for reset?

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Posted by: thorax.1274

thorax.1274

Oh Don’t Do It!

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Posted by: scerevisiae.1972

scerevisiae.1972

  1. WvW’s reset time will be changed to be 24 hours later in NA and EU. It will now occur on Saturdays instead of Fridays.

Why do this? It makes no sense. ending on fridays was something you guys got right, it means we are all free to go hard at it all weekend.

Please revert.

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Posted by: cajov.7805

cajov.7805

This is a completely terribad no good anti-WvW community change that is not needed and was never asked for.
Please reconsider.

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Posted by: displayname.8315

displayname.8315

Please reconsider the WvW reset time change.

The Oceanic WvW community is already sparse, and this change will reduce the active competitive weekend play to half a day (Sunday afternoon/evening).
Weekends have historically been the most active and fun time to participate in WvW. A change that reduces this by over half, will not help support the much needed Oceanic population growth.

Again, please kindly reconsider the change to WvW reset time.

Are you saying people won’t play on the weekend because of some warscore? Being a fairweather should not be an excuse to keep the reset on friday. If you want to play then just play.

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Posted by: kryndal.8024

kryndal.8024

I want to add my voice as an Oceanic player that changing Reset will adversely affect my gameplay. This change means a huge change to how we play the game, and I can see no positive benefit for the move.

Please reconsider this move.

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Posted by: Blade.3456

Blade.3456

Please reconsider the WvW reset time change.

The Oceanic WvW community is already sparse, and this change will reduce the active competitive weekend play to half a day (Sunday afternoon/evening).
Weekends have historically been the most active and fun time to participate in WvW. A change that reduces this by over half, will not help support the much needed Oceanic population growth.

Again, please kindly reconsider the change to WvW reset time.

Are you saying people won’t play on the weekend because of some warscore? Being a fairweather should not be an excuse to keep the reset on friday. If you want to play then just play.

Come play a Friday night (as a guilded force) in T1 Oceanic some time, and let me know if it’s fun. Unless you love rubbing face on doors, you won’t enjoy your experience. Don’t be so quick to wave the “fairweather” flag.

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Posted by: Samis.1750

Samis.1750

Friday night WvW is a ritual. You’re turning a day when players are both excited and available into a meaningless karma train exercise.

Why don’t you have the reset on Monday so the days when most of players play becomes meaningless?

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Posted by: TDC.1627

TDC.1627

This change to WvW reset time does not support growth in active play, and heavily inhibits the Oceanic community. Reducing our active weekend play to half a day (Sunday afternoon/evening). Please reconsider this WvW reset time change.

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Posted by: Baldrick.8967

Baldrick.8967

Thanks for the change. I’m glad that we had a CDI, full and frank discussions with the player base, arguments for and against, and that this was the decision backed by a majority of the wvw player base.

‘wakes up’

So, another change hoisted on to the wvw scene without any kind of consultation at all. Friday and most of Saturday (prime time for EU wvw for the whole week)now becomes the karma end of the match ups.

Maybe they were thinking all matches will be close and this will give a great ending to wvw match ups? (if so, they obviously forgot to ask anyone).

I think one poster has it spot on: it’s a move designed to push players towards their ‘esports’ spvp and push up numbers to justify the 400k they are spunking on a tourny for a few dozen people and less than 10k viewers (that’s roughly $40 a viewer, so the amount we each paid for the HoT upgrade..).

It is any wonder the wvw scene has become so jaded and so many have left when decisions like this are just thrown in?

Oh and in case we all missed it, the idea of maybe rotating the borderlands after a while has now also been canned as it’s now stuck with desert BL for the ‘forseeable future’ . So no new maps planned in next 3 years and no rotation.

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