Guild Wars 2

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John Corpening.9847:

Hello All,

There are a couple of reasons for the change to reset time. One is for the overall quality of the game. The last few years we have been careful to not disrupt the WvW reset time but this has at times made it difficult for our team to address issues during reset day. This change will give our team an extra day of the week that they can use to respond to issues that may occur with WvW or any other area of the game if it is necessary. In the early days we wanted reset to be during a weekday to ensure we had people available to monitor the game at reset time, but at this point we have seen the ongoing stability of World vs. World and resetting on a weekday is no longer necessary.

Another reason is the emergent gameplay that has come from reset. It has become one of the most exciting times for WvW and we would really love for more players to have the opportunity to experience it. We have many more players logging in on Saturday than on Friday which means with this change many more people will be available to experience the rush of claiming objectives for their world during reset.

However, given the concerns posted here we will be moving the Saturday reset to earlier in the day to give most players the majority of the day to enjoy the start of the new match. Immediately after launch the new time will be 11am PDT / 2pm EDT (6 pm UTC) for NA and 11am BST / 12 pm CEST (10 am UTC) for EU. Keep in mind that the following week with the end of Daylight Savings Time / Summer Time the reset times will be pushed even earlier to 10am PST/ 1pm EST and 10am GMT / 11am CET.

Thank you for your feedback. We realize that no time we pick is going to work for everyone but this change is going to benefit even more players overall while at the same time giving us a little more breathing room to improve the quality of the game during the week.

Thanks,
John

I’ll put it this way, your post is contradict with WvW experience and I’ll explain why:

• 1).STRAWPOLL FOR John’s homework John, for beginning, I’ve asked people on reddit and here on forum about it, it’s basically what YOU could have done the same. So i did it for you http://strawpoll.me/5736600/r here are the results.

• 2). FACT OF WVW Yes you have more logs on Saturdays, but where? Not in WvW, but in all over Tyria(GW2 mega servers). We WvW guild leaders/co-leaders have our own years of statistics of WvW, and I can tell you we are facing 80% less WvW attendance then other days of the week. Just logging in for 5 min to get your WvW daily doesn’t count. Our statistics also shows that on saturdays we have 20-30 less experienced regular people on tag and we get more upscaled and rank under silver who cannot follow the tag and ever worse connect to TeamSpeak, this leaves us very quickly with 25-35 people on tag who fail to accomplish simple tasks, and those that are Regular WvW players don’t show up until afternoon-evening that’s also why for example Gandara or Desolution(before last month mass inflation) have this issue where commanders simply don’t tag up due to this issue.
• 3) ALREADY EXISTING QUEUES From gaming experience, I would love to ask HOW, would you want to give people chance to experience WvW Reset, while T1-3 servers ALWAYS have at least 40+ queue just on EB reset day and borders face queue between 10-20 man, and if you miss the split second or you get a disconnect, you’ll face sitting in queue for minimum 60-120 minutes, and with Saturday resets, in your theory we will face over 100+ queue on servers. But that’s false assumption described why in point 1).
• 4) DOES 1 DAY SHIFT COUNT?More time to fix things after Patch. I honestly don’t know who exactly are you trying to convince into that, because WvW experience says other ways, nothing was ever fixed on time, and +1 day won’t fix it either, why? I don’t blame you guys, I know it’s hard, but if WvW had issue, things were fixed in time frame between 1 week or 3 months. The only thing about WvW that I can shoutout is Quick fix of server drop out, sorry anet, that’s the only thing that was fixed from your side in matter of hours, and you can’t be ready on that, no one does, and we understand you. Extra day here won’t fix anything, and you guys that play WvW know that.
  Just remember the golem rush issue:
  - Event was over before you guys managed to fix golem buff abuse.
  - It took you 3 days to fix. “i see every one on them map, including enemy tags and players BUG”
  - After 3 years, we can still place catapults on UN-KILL-ABLE positions in klovan inside the wall.
  - It took you 1 week before you were able to remove bug where displaying Chinese-dragon-year event items in map chat would make you disconnect from the game if you preview/click on it.
  - It took you 3 years of rubber bending skills before minor changes were applied. And you guys took 3 months to measure data, and + 3 months to apply that results, which leaves us with 6 months of fixing an issue. After 6 months we don’t mind if you would take 1 extra day.

• 5) SERVER ISSUES Owh I’ve forgot to mention, fixes to rubber-bending were not fully fixed. EB is still facing huge rubber-bends in prime times and not just resets on (we are currently on T3 server and yet we experience the same issues). Things are slightly better when it comes to SM fights, but i wouldn’t dare to call that a fix myself, it’s more likely a stitch.

• 6) MUTUAL AGREEMENT: Hundreds of guilds are making weekly meetings with leaders to make sure every thing is covered, we organize more then in other game modes here in GW2, I’ll also say it, Friday gives fresh start to have amazing Saturday and Sunday. This shift will cut us for 16-24hours of enjoyment. RESET itself, became comparable with country anatheme, it’s more then jsut a song, it’s something that you are proud and kitteny about! Can you change country anatheme just like that? I bet you don’t, it would lose respect of your people, and sorry John, we feel offended, like it’s not enough that we suffered 3 years with unplayable game mode at peaks, now this? Well all i can say is, _I wish you would understand us at least once._

• 7) PLOT TWIST Also, lets be honest for a moment, it’s all about release day 23th friday for you guys.
  You want every one to be in Jungle on that day but the funny plot twist is, true WvW players like me, will play WvW on that day. Temporary reset day shift with exception this week would be fine and acceptable, no one would care that much, but permanently shifting it still make no sense to those that are dedicated WvW players, and we know how WvW fixes and updates are.

Nothing is done in 1 extra day, sorry we have history of WvW behind us.

Shout out for devs that try hard to fix things, we know you guys are working on it as much as you can, we are just sad that changes are there, where we don’t need them.

I am an enthusiastic WvW player since release with 90% of my play time spent in WvW and I can not agree with your changes. It was always fun to gather players on a Friday evening, so almost everybody had time to play on reset after a hard week of work, university, school or whatever the people have to do during the days. Every evening on european servers is the primetime of WvW and gives the highest amount of WvW players the opportunity to be part of the weekly matchup reset, especially on Friday. I just do not know where your numbers come from or what you are thinking about us WvW players or everybody who wants to join the battles in the mists, but I saw the rise and fall of this game mode and all I can say is that the numbers of active players and the community decreased. The Friday evening reset made us forgot about the shrinking community and gave us the old feeling of epic battles, full maps and a big growing number of fellows. I watched all the numbers of decreasing players during the 3 years of Guild Wars 2 and the change to Saturday noon just does not seem logical to me. Not even half of the playerbase that joins me to every weekly reset night can enjoy the new date. Please overthink your changes and ask the server communities what they are thinking than just reading some statistics which include players who almost never enter the mist wars.

John Corpening.9847:

Hello All,

There are a couple of reasons for the change to reset time. One is for the overall quality of the game. The last few years we have been careful to not disrupt the WvW reset time but this has at times made it difficult for our team to address issues during reset day. This change will give our team an extra day of the week that they can use to respond to issues that may occur with WvW or any other area of the game if it is necessary. In the early days we wanted reset to be during a weekday to ensure we had people available to monitor the game at reset time, but at this point we have seen the ongoing stability of World vs. World and resetting on a weekday is no longer necessary.

Another reason is the emergent gameplay that has come from reset. It has become one of the most exciting times for WvW and we would really love for more players to have the opportunity to experience it. We have many more players logging in on Saturday than on Friday which means with this change many more people will be available to experience the rush of claiming objectives for their world during reset.

However, given the concerns posted here we will be moving the Saturday reset to earlier in the day to give most players the majority of the day to enjoy the start of the new match. Immediately after launch the new time will be 11am PDT / 2pm EDT (6 pm UTC) for NA and 11am BST / 12 pm CEST (10 am UTC) for EU. Keep in mind that the following week with the end of Daylight Savings Time / Summer Time the reset times will be pushed even earlier to 10am PST/ 1pm EST and 10am GMT / 11am CET.

Thank you for your feedback. We realize that no time we pick is going to work for everyone but this change is going to benefit even more players overall while at the same time giving us a little more breathing room to improve the quality of the game during the week.

Thanks,
John

I can understand that you wish to make changes to increase the quality of the game. But with quality I would think of the quality we experience while playing the game… And not the quality of your own convenience. But it seems we both have different opinions on this matter.

Your reasoning for changing it to saturday because most people play at that time is of course nonsense since we have que’s on the borderlands during reset anyway. A lot of our core WvW players mostly play during the weekend and reset is their highlight. One of the reasons reset is a highlight is because at reset everything is fresh and paper, and everyone starts from scratch which makes WvW a lot more fun. You actually have things to take or defend and play WvW the way ANET wants us to.

By setting it to saturday you basically shorten our fun experience by HALF on the weekend. Most match ups end up decided 2 days before reset, and not much happens by that time. So friday is going to be boring and unsatisfying for many of us. So yes, I think the quality we receive while playing this game is dropping with this change.

Now the change to saturday afternoon is just amazing I think, in a bad way. Because it proves you have not done any demographic research on your playerbase. Surely there are people who can spend their time on a saturday morning/afternoon on a video game in WvW, but so many people have lives and other things to do during the day… Not to mention, for OCX/SEA it will be too late to do reset.

Yes, you can not satisfy everyone, and every hour or minute during the weekend is bad for someone. But we can see that the majority doesn’t like this change and wants to keep it on friday. I guess now is the time to see if you really take the WvW playerbase and the gamemode seriously. If not it proves you’re basically doing the same as with dungeons, making it less popular to put incentive to play other things. But I can assure you that changing it to saturday (at whichever time) is going to lose you loyal longterm WvW players.

Friday Night WvW Reset was perfect for a lot of reasons. It’s the end of the work week – so most people like to kick back with a drink and play WvW with their guild. For those of us with international guilds, it was timed wonderfully for all our members to be able to raid together and gave us a weekend that the entire guild could enjoy. It made Saturday nights open for Guild Missions to allow the greatest number of members from different time zones enjoy them. This would have segued nicely into scheduling the new Raids for the guild on the Saturdays after missions, with plenty of time for WvW, roaming, PvP, PvE or silly guild events over the ENTIRE weekend, thus accommodating the maximum number of people from the wide variety of different time zones and play styles in our guild. This change of day of the week just screws up the entire thing.

Please reconsider this change and move it back to the tradition reset start. We would like to continue to be able to play with our SEA/OCX members at the same time as with our NA/EU members.

you shall not pass ANET , not this time , not on this one …

The majority of WvW players community DOES NOT AGREE with you !!

The only part of your game that is any good and you choose to base changes to it off of data collected from pve. Look, if you want to make changes post expansion to primarily WvW do everyone a favor and fire this idiot and hire someone with more than half a brain cell.

Uh that new time on Saturday morning… can we please just go back to our old friday night? That’s where the fun is at and it was greate. Would be a shame to see the “reset-culture” that has formed around reset on most servers to die off because of a bad timechoice.

Does anyone of you remember the times when EU reset was at 2am at the start of the game?
Used to be great action with enough commanders and players despite the time.

EVERY time has pros and cons, and there will ALWAYS be players who can’t/don’t want to play at a certain time.
For myself I’m not sure if I can keep my ~90%+ reset attendance. Doesn’t matter to me, if I can’t play reset, I’ll have something else enjoyable to do.
Sure it sucks for all those of you, who wouldn’t be able to play at the new reset time. No doubt.
But it seems many people here forget about those who can’t play at the reset time we have now. Same as Saturday, there are people who use Friday evenings to work, spend time with their failiy, go out,…
You cannot say “It’s kitten for everyone”, cause you don’t know everyone.

I want to ask you again not to go full rage mode and stop acting like a normal human being. Being upset does not mean you have to behave like a little, angry child. Put your pitchforks and torches away.
Please keep it as civil as possible and try to look for a constructive dialogue. Thanks.

Do u realy have a dice which detirmens what u are gona ruin in wvw.
1:Imposible lag
2:Server crash
3:Golem event
4:Lets ruin reset time
5:Laughing at all the bugs wvw has and posibly adding new ones
6:Maby leave it alone, but lets make it a PvE by making all players into 1 team, just for laughs

So, again Anet changed his mind. Not Evening. Now they wanna make it at lunch time, where everyone wants to eat. What a wonderful reset! really…not -.-
And Anet wants more people to enjoy the reset? Really? We got a Que on reset on every Map (Friday evening), HOW can more people enjoy if they get stucked in a que at weekend when the reset is in the “primetime of weekend”?

Really anet… This is the wrong choice, you will change everything in WvW , but we won’t give you the best reset time that we (YOUR COMMUNITY) can have without a fight!

From a WvW perspective now, Friday night, once the busiest and most fun night of the week, is a total blowout. Any talk of big Friday night PPT pushes that everyone can join will prove to be wide of the mark, as the biggest PPT push will be from whichever server can night/morning cap immediately prior to the morning reset. This is, of course, all assuming the matchup is still close enough to be worth bothering about at that point, and in a lot of cases it isn’t.

Furthermore, in what universe is Saturday morning more inclusive than Friday night? Can you really think you’ll get more people online at 10am-noon on a Saturday than on a Friday evening? What about parents who have children to look after? What about people who work in retail? What about people who work in pretty much any job Monday to Friday and therefore probably have things to do on Saturday morning? I don’t consider it unreasonable to assume that the number of those people outnumber the people who work Friday night and can play Saturday morning. Nor that the experience of reset for those who can play would be lessened by the absence of all the people mentioned above.

This is a poorly thought out idea with flawed justification, seeming to take no account of what the playerbase wants.

EDIT: My sympathies to the OCX/SEA WvW players who’ve been horrendously screwed over by this.

Hornestly this enterly bull***ting about make reset that time or that time – or get in a corner and whine – seriouslly stop that – thats nonsense.
To make things fair and square make a serverlist dependence on the timezone and thats that.
Hey even if thats results in an downtime in between Servertimezone (example Florida and California time difference 3 Hours) thats fine than make a fine list.
2 times the same Match aka 1 prime time timezone Florida then 1 prime time california – or to the start on the mid that should be the method for WvW global.
But to begin with the next match needs to be engraved in stone and that will decide the end of the present match and the start of the next Match – because some want “planning security”. Settle that way and thats that.
Theme finished. Logic – simple – hard&fair – thats the way it should be done.
Extension: if some NA server have EU player or viveversa, those are of the hook for that regulation.

John Corpening.9847:

Hello All,

There are a couple of reasons for the change to reset time. One is for the overall quality of the game. The last few years we have been careful to not disrupt the WvW reset time but this has at times made it difficult for our team to address issues during reset day. This change will give our team an extra day of the week that they can use to respond to issues that may occur with WvW or any other area of the game if it is necessary. In the early days we wanted reset to be during a weekday to ensure we had people available to monitor the game at reset time, but at this point we have seen the ongoing stability of World vs. World and resetting on a weekday is no longer necessary.

Another reason is the emergent gameplay that has come from reset. It has become one of the most exciting times for WvW and we would really love for more players to have the opportunity to experience it. We have many more players logging in on Saturday than on Friday which means with this change many more people will be available to experience the rush of claiming objectives for their world during reset.

However, given the concerns posted here we will be moving the Saturday reset to earlier in the day to give most players the majority of the day to enjoy the start of the new match. Immediately after launch the new time will be 11am PDT / 2pm EDT (6 pm UTC) for NA and 11am BST / 12 pm CEST (10 am UTC) for EU. Keep in mind that the following week with the end of Daylight Savings Time / Summer Time the reset times will be pushed even earlier to 10am PST/ 1pm EST and 10am GMT / 11am CET.

Thank you for your feedback. We realize that no time we pick is going to work for everyone but this change is going to benefit even more players overall while at the same time giving us a little more breathing room to improve the quality of the game during the week.

Thanks,
John

You just killed reset for OCX and SEA for no reason whatsoever. No one in the WvW community asked for a reset time change. You changed it to suit your own self-serving agenda with no consideration or care for how it would effect the entire playerbase that has come to love and enjoy the reset tradition.

You self-obsessed narcissists care nothing for the health of WvW, you claim the reset time change gives you a chance to have an additional day to work on changes for WvW but none of us are buying that. What changes? You mean you’ll be actually updating WvW? You expect us to believe with that arbitrary magical ONE day you will accomplish anything meaningful for WvW? How about some of the changes the community has been justifiably asking for from DAY 1 like fixes for map exploits, banning of hackers and siege griefers, reworking the glicko and scoring systems just to name a few. Or hang on, how about more accurately ANY update for WvW whatsoever? You’ve let WvW rot too long. You throw out events like golem rush and think "LOL omg this golem is fast! the door melts! wvwers will luv this XD " and when the community justifiably comes out with the pitchforks, where are you to be found? No where in sight. As always.

Get your developers to actually play WvW so that you can see the problems first hand. Start making decisions that are in touch with the community and set things right.

Don’t change reset.

Again, pls no, Leave Reset Friday pls

On the positive side: no more queues at reset.

Gah, this now sucks. “Reset Night” is a friggin tradition in this game, for ALOT of communities. Its the after-work, blow of some steam with some zerg fights-sorta thing. Now, you put it at noon on a Saturday, when most civilized people are out doing yard work, or spending time with their families? In my case, i work on Saturdays.

I was really looking forward to the change to Saturday night, but now, its just not gonna work.

Why does ANet always hafta to do, or say something really cool, then screw it all up by locking some feature or some thing behind some kind of complicated decision that ends up making things bad for us?

devs, do you even wvw?

Please allow me to argue completely from an EU perspective, since this is the situation I know pretty well.

John Corpening.9847:

We have many more players logging in on Saturday than on Friday which means with this change many more people will be available to experience the rush of claiming objectives for their world during reset.

But that is exactly the point: People like to play on weekends. And — face it — a weekend starts on Friday evening. Before the planned move, we had potentially (from Fri 20:00 CEST to Sun 23:59 CEST) about 52 hours of fun WvW playtime. It doesn’t matter that there are “more players on Saturday than on Friday”, it was fun weekend playtime for those players on Friday, too. With the planned move, we are going to loose about 16 hours of that time, with merely (from Sat 12:00 CEST to Sun 23:59 CEST) 36 hours remaining. For no convincing reason.

Also, please don’t overestimate the effect of the reset at a match-up. Yes, the initial rush is fun, and everybody should experience it at least once. But essentially nothing that is won in the first early hours of a match-up survives the first night following it. The match-up isn’t decided by a reset, it is decided by coverage. The nice part of the weekend is that night-coverage is not that much of an issue from Friday to Saturday and from Saturday to Friday, since even on lower tier servers people are willing to spent a night in WvW. Which means that the match-up usually stayed fresh and fund during the whole weekend. This drastically changes during the night from Sunday to Monday. Everything that happens afterwards is dominated by night-coverage, and the fun of the match-up usually vanishes at the same time.

I absolutely thank you for your initiative to make the move “not as bad” as it was announced in the OP, but this will still be bad for many EU players. For EU, Friday evening (20:00 CEST) was a near perfect time slot. It was the start in the weekend. People had time to get home from work and were eager to spent an evening in WvW. People woke up on Saturday morning at thought “heck, why not, let’s spent some fun hours in WvW before lunch”. The move will explicitly kill those two scenarios, and replace them by nothing.

I stay by my point: If the WvW reset time changes, this will be a net loss for the WvW community.

My 2 copper.

~MRA

Just keep it at friday. The updated times are even worse than saturday evening.

John Corpening.9847:

Another reason is the emergent gameplay that has come from reset. It has become one of the most exciting times for WvW and we would really love for more players to have the opportunity to experience it. We have many more players logging in on Saturday than on Friday which means with this change many more people will be available to experience the rush of claiming objectives for their world during reset.

Like I and others already said, Que’s prevent from “more” people experiencing reset.

If you like more of us to experience reset, why not do a reset twice a week? This prevents us from having pointless days during weekly match ups, and might kill karma trains.

They could have a temporary small borderlands to hold the huge influx of players, so they could have an impact in overall scoreboard during reset day, and then they could just disable that borderlands. I don’t think it’s even possible to increase the number of players the maps can hold, so this is a cool solution IMo

If you want to recruit more player to join WvW, you should extend the server not changing the reset time.

To ANET: why don’t you throw a golem rush event as bonus for every reset day while you’re riding that wave of amazing ideas of yours?

Even Anet must realise by now that this is a terrible decision- even the usual white knights can’t spin this into anything other than a really bad idea ill conceived and awfully presented with not one thought as to what wvw players might want.

Congratulations. You have achieved your aim of making wvw totally noob friendly with 20-30 people standing around wondering what to do on their upscaled characters waiting for a tag to tag up and try and herd kittens, whilst removing guard buffs for no apparent reason other than they affect guardians least.

I guess the solution is to go kitten up spvp for a while then maybe they might notice us down here in the dregs where wvw exists in anet’s plan.

Saturday.. lunch time.. for reset?
I just wonder who might have thought this was a good idea.

Conspiracy theory… It’s to get players to do raids instead.

ANeT, you say it was so more people could enjoy the action of Reset Night. Well, this week will be my LAST WvW reset. I can’t play on Saturdays. So you just took it away from me.

I’m glad you finally responded. You should have had this explanation with the FIRST posting of the change. However, I still disagree with this. You have removed many players from reset by doing this. I loved being part of reset and the server planning that went into it. My guild CAN’T participate anymore. Thanks for “thinking” of us.

Wow. Just wow. You did it. You enticed me with “new” & “challenging” content. You made a shiny map for WvW and despite all the complaining, I grew to like over the beta testing and defended while others complained. You captured my attention and my wallet by making me believe that you cared about the gametype called World vs. World. I invested $200 ($100 for me, $50 for my two son’s accounts) in your vision with some genuine interest to play your “challenging” content. … and then you do something like change the reset time for NA servers to EU prime time… G effin G. I guess servers can play for fights more than PPT and totally eff over this game type – until the next one releases – and trust me… something better will release…. but that is ok, you got that $200.

John Corpening.9847:

One is for the overall quality of the game. The last few years we have been careful to not disrupt the WvW reset time but this has at times made it difficult for our team to address issues during reset day. This change will give our team an extra day of the week that they can use to respond to issues that may occur with WvW or any other area of the game if it is necessary.

Translation:

Screw the WvW community, we want things to be more convenient for us.

John Corpening.9847:

Another reason is the emergent gameplay that has come from reset. It has become one of the most exciting times for WvW and we would really love for more players to have the opportunity to experience it. We have many more players logging in on Saturday than on Friday which means with this change many more people will be available to experience the rush of claiming objectives for their world during reset.

Translation:

We don’t really play WvW and we don’t have any understanding of what actually goes on at reset and over the weekend in WvW so we are going to go by our metrics that show more people logged into the game on Saturday. Since we lack foresight, we are going cluelessly scratch our heads after this change when the amount of people playing in WvW on Saturday drastically drops.

John Corpening.9847:

However, given the concerns posted here we will be moving the Saturday reset to earlier in the day to give most players the majority of the day to enjoy the start of the new match. Immediately after launch the new time will be 11am PDT / 2pm EDT (6 pm UTC) for NA and 11am BST / 12 pm CEST (10 am UTC) for EU. Keep in mind that the following week with the end of Daylight Savings Time / Summer Time the reset times will be pushed even earlier to 10am PST/ 1pm EST and 10am GMT / 11am CET.

Translation:

We heard your whining and to shut you up, we are going to make a lame attempt to compromise. Unfortunately we don’t have a clue about WvW, so our compromise is blowing up in our face because it is actually far worse overall.

John Corpening.9847:

Thank you for your feedback. We realize that no time we pick is going to work for everyone but this change is going to benefit even more players overall while at the same time giving us a little more breathing room to improve the quality of the game during the week.

Thanks for crying about this, but we really don’t give a crap because this is more convenient for us. Sorry that you still haven’t figured out that we don’t care about the WvW community, but maybe a direct “kitten you” like this will get the point across.

So yeah….. we have two possibilities here:

1. ANET understands WvW perfectly fine and is making a fully conscious choice to screw over the WvW community for the sake of their own convenience.

-OR-

2. ANET is completely clueless about the WvW and is too arrogant to listen fully while wallowing in ignorance about it, and still makes the conscious choice to screw over the WvW community for the sake of their own convenience.

This is the game and company you are supporting people. At least I can stop my support as I have not purchased the xpac. For those of you who have, I would be demanding my money back.

“We realize that no time we pick is going to work for everyone” Why fix something that isnt broken. The reset time is already fine!

cillard.3986:

John Corpening.9847:

One is for the overall quality of the game. The last few years we have been careful to not disrupt the WvW reset time but this has at times made it difficult for our team to address issues during reset day. This change will give our team an extra day of the week that they can use to respond to issues that may occur with WvW or any other area of the game if it is necessary.

Translation:

Screw the WvW community, we want things to be more convenient for us.

John Corpening.9847:

Another reason is the emergent gameplay that has come from reset. It has become one of the most exciting times for WvW and we would really love for more players to have the opportunity to experience it. We have many more players logging in on Saturday than on Friday which means with this change many more people will be available to experience the rush of claiming objectives for their world during reset.

Translation:

We don’t really play WvW and we don’t have any understanding of what actually goes on at reset and over the weekend in WvW so we are going to go by our metrics that show more people logged into the game on Saturday. Since we lack foresight, we are going cluelessly scratch our heads after this change when the amount of people playing in WvW on Saturday drastically drops.

John Corpening.9847:

However, given the concerns posted here we will be moving the Saturday reset to earlier in the day to give most players the majority of the day to enjoy the start of the new match. Immediately after launch the new time will be 11am PDT / 2pm EDT (6 pm UTC) for NA and 11am BST / 12 pm CEST (10 am UTC) for EU. Keep in mind that the following week with the end of Daylight Savings Time / Summer Time the reset times will be pushed even earlier to 10am PST/ 1pm EST and 10am GMT / 11am CET.

Translation:

We heard your whining and to shut you up, we are going to make a lame attempt to compromise. Unfortunately we don’t have a clue about WvW, so our compromise is blowing up in our face because it is actually far worse overall.

John Corpening.9847:

Thank you for your feedback. We realize that no time we pick is going to work for everyone but this change is going to benefit even more players overall while at the same time giving us a little more breathing room to improve the quality of the game during the week.

Thanks for crying about this, but we really don’t give a crap because this is more convenient for us. Sorry that you still haven’t figured out that we don’t care about the WvW community, but maybe a direct “kitten you” like this will get the point across.

::throws self on floor::

::cries like a little baby::

I just imitated pretty much everyone that posted here..

:D

briggah.7910:

::throws self on floor::

::cries like a little baby::

I just imitated pretty much everyone that posted here..

:D

You posted here! Oh lord you have created a wormhole what will suck us all in!

Thats worse. markedly worse…..

I wish forums had a button to automatically ignore all comments similar to: “nooo this change is inconvenient for meee siiggh sooob”. This thread would be probably 2 pages instead of 8 with that on

Friday evening was arbitrary and people complained about it. Saturday afternoon (EU) is arbitrary and people is complaining about it. There is no way of pleasing everyone.

I personally stopped enjoying reset time after Season 2, when it became a huge and mindless lag/blobfest. No, thanks.

I understand some people might like that, and I’m sure saturday evening will still be like that, but this change has the potential to give a better picture of the servers relative strength.

The saturday afternoon population (often including more newcomers and casuals than the hardcore reset prime time/night crew) will have a stronger role in defining the PPT lead and I think it’ll feel like a “slow start” compared to the frantic reset evening and subsequent night capping phase we have now.

briggah.7910:

::throws self on floor::

::cries like a little baby::

I just imitated pretty much everyone that posted here..

:D

So you suggest we just ignore this idiotic change and let them do what they want without reacting?

Menaka.5092:

I wish…
I personally stopped enjoying reset time after Season 2…

Then why do you care enough to have an opinion?

Kanebrake.6192:

briggah.7910:

::throws self on floor::

::cries like a little baby::

I just imitated pretty much everyone that posted here..

:D

So you suggest we just ignore this idiotic change and let them do what they want without reacting?

Pretty much…

Make it ealry Friday instead.
People will have 3 full days to enjoy the beginning of the matchup (which equals the highest motivation and therefore best fights) and you won’t have everyone joining reset in the evening, creating massive ques.

Entenkommando.5208:

Make it ealry Friday instead.
People will have 3 full days to enjoy the beginning of the matchup (which equals the highest motivation and therefore best fights) and you won’t have everyone joining reset in the evening, creating massive ques.

There ANeT, you just had your solution given to you.

Not a fan of either change. Fridays were great all things considered for reset night. As a North American on North American servers the time was perfect because it gave 3 full weekend like days to really get into WvW. This effectively drags us back to two while adding another “dead” day in WvW at the end of the week (look at Thursday).

Not sure why we’re fixing something that wasn’t broken.

Given the late hour of reset very few game updates happen around that time to fix something that’s an exploit or otherwise. I would rather keep the reset time and risk having WvW reset for emergency updates than change the reset time for something that only occasionally happens.

briggah.7910:

Kanebrake.6192:

briggah.7910:

::throws self on floor::

::cries like a little baby::

I just imitated pretty much everyone that posted here..

:D

So you suggest we just ignore this idiotic change and let them do what they want without reacting?

Pretty much…

Sorry, but that’s not how paying consumers make a company meet their demands. I wish it were but that’s not how it works.

Wryscher.1432:

atleast they didn’t buff arrow cart damage….

Arrowcarts are buffed by proxy with the removal of guard stacks. For player combat its all a fair an equal change (1v1, ZvZ, doesnt matter), but in player vs arrowcart they cant reach the HP only matter o the recieving end of the arrows. This apply to all siege used against players from a protected position.

So yes, they are buffing arrowcarts as well.

Heibi.4251:

Entenkommando.5208:

Make it ealry Friday instead.
People will have 3 full days to enjoy the beginning of the matchup (which equals the highest motivation and therefore best fights) and you won’t have everyone joining reset in the evening, creating massive ques.

There ANeT, you just had your solution given to you.

ok… I don’t think so… people complain mostly because they want to do reset as well, not get rid of it alltogether.

And friday wouldn’t be convenient for anet. Their own convenience outweights customer experience.

its friday 5 pm work is out.. “oh kitten they got a bug on EU WvW reset”.. “john, you doing it?”.. “screw you mike i did it the last 3 times and took me all kitten evening, my woman got mad as hell” .. “dude im going out to watch the new terminator movie, how about brian?” .. “brian, yo?” ..“GTFO mike”… mike thinks… “guys i got a WONDERFULL idea, lets move wvw reset to somewhen after business hours so we can not give a kitten untill monday morning”.. “nice one mike”

sooo lets see if bugs during reset will still get adressed before monday after this change xD

This is ridiculous :/ so you are telling me after my suggestions on other posts that have been ignored may I add…. you are now going to ruin one of the most fun days on WvW because of your incapabilities to maintain your system?!
Probably only to keep your precious pve players happy because they purchase most gems or something..
WvW is greatest thing in this game ( as any wvw player would say.. ) but the community is getting ignored completely.
There is no difference between sorting our your crap on friday or saturday morning, what you will do is get non wvw players on to turn it into edge of the mist \o/ happy days!
And please don’t act like you don’t disrupt the resets, 10 minutes in:
" Your game will restart in 10 minutes because we’ve kittened something up in pve "
It’s not only on this forum, every1 is going crazy, so multiply the comments you find on here by 2 please.

Maybe you guys shouldn’t of made a thread complaining about patches during reset night.. Now reset gets moved to a day where they don’t do much patching.. GG.. you got what you “Cried” for

kitten kittening kittener the kitten kitten kitten! so many kittens….

BlackDeath.4398:

you are now going to ruin one of the most fun days on WvW because of your incapabilities to maintain your system?!

So sad.. A 24/7 game mode only has 1 day of fun to many people..