Guild Wars 2

WvW 2v1 is fun enough for you??? How about during the entire season were you’d be fighting against 2 conspired zergs from each alliances. Meanwhile Blackgate TS is going through ddos attack every so often. Well sure enough JQ and TC are completely enjoying this moment to take advantage of the situation and they are absolutely not subjected to penalty. I think ANet needs to change how WvW mechanics work as opposed to pve perspective. Unlike GW1 they have skills changed when you switch between pve/pvp maps. I think they should do exactly the same thing over here in GW2. Skills should not be limited to 5 (10 if includes friendly target) targets. This makes the challenges in WvW easy to be manipulated against the favor of fair games.

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Blackgate Power

Sounds like a problem out of Anets hands, also, dont except any significant change while the season is going. My advice; have another TS ready and distributed among trustable guilds, that or good’ol way that big servers such as your do; zerg it all, and if that doesnt work, bring more people and zerg it again and you will succeed

have seen this kind of situations in other games too..got only 1 reply from other.
DEAL WITH IT!
i almost forgot this #BGTears

How dare two servers work together! /sarcasm

Wow, way to combine multiple completely different topics onto one post, and on the wrong part of the forums, no less (try WvW discussion)

1. Everyone likes to think they get the most 2v1- it’s actually a pretty even split, because (A) you really only remember when it happens to you and (B) striking when the third party has the target occupied (IE making use of opportune moments) is not necessarily 2v1, but the target easily mistakes it for 2v1

2. I don’t feel bad for you. The breakdown of SOR was due in part to fracturing TS when the main TS got frequently ddos-ed by BG, leading to a series of “secret” alternates, which each also got leaked and targeted. A lack of central TS fractured the community, and SOR fell apart. I don’t endorse ddos-ing as a a tactic, but I honestly don’t feel bad for BG here.

3. I agree that WvW should not be affected by balance changes based on PvE, 100%, though it should also be a separate from pvp-stats for various reasons.

4. I also agree that AOE’s being limited to 5 targets is sorta BS, and removing that limit would maybe make it easier to counter stacking, and help break up blobs. Anet has stated they can’t raise/remove the limit for “technical reasons” which either means (A) “Our servers can’t handle that much processing, so the result would be too laggy” or (B) “We don’t feel like refactoring our code”. Each is a legitimate reason (part B less so, but it depends how much refactoring would be necessary)

Seriously though dude, try not to crunch everything into one post next time…

Leap Of Faith.8263:

have seen this kind of situations in other games too..got only 1 reply from other.
DEAL WITH IT!

your point doesn’t really validate any remotely logical.

I’ll break this down for you.

1. Everyone likes to think they get the most 2v1- it’s actually a pretty even split, because (A) you really only remember when it happens to you and (B) striking when the third party has the target occupied (IE making use of opportune moments) is not necessarily 2v1, but the target easily mistakes it for 2v1

JQ already made prior arrangements with TC soon as the first 2 weeks didn’t work on their favor or let me rephrase never had a chance to even match on 1 on 1 level.

2. I don’t feel bad for you. The breakdown of SOR was due in part to fracturing TS when the main TS got frequently ddos-ed by BG, leading to a series of “secret” alternates, which each also got leaked and targeted. A lack of central TS fractured the community, and SOR fell apart. I don’t endorse ddos-ing as a a tactic, but I honestly don’t feel bad for BG here.

Personally speaking I’d friends from either SoR and JQ there were plenty of reason why SoR drained down the toilet because of main thing a lot of their WvW core guilds were so arrogant and inflicting internal chaos within SoR amongst other guilds. One of those were my pve guild that got harassed not just once but several consecutive times.

3. I agree that WvW should not be affected by balance changes based on PvE, 100%, though it should also be a separate from pvp-stats for various reasons.

4. I also agree that AOE’s being limited to 5 targets is sorta BS, and removing that limit would maybe make it easier to counter stacking, and help break up blobs. Anet has stated they can’t raise/remove the limit for “technical reasons” which either means (A) “Our servers can’t handle that much processing, so the result would be too laggy” or (B) “We don’t feel like refactoring our code”. Each is a legitimate reason (part B less so, but it depends how much refactoring would be necessary)

This can be done effortlessly and had been addressed long before this decade. Plenty of games already gone through the same concepts and able to work around. Why not the Legendary ANet?

mysticque.6182:

Leap Of Faith.8263:

have seen this kind of situations in other games too..got only 1 reply from other.
DEAL WITH IT!

your point doesn’t really validate any remotely logical.

and your opening post is a mismash of stuff in one big paragraph. Not really sure what points you are making really. Just seems out of place in this forum. There is a WvW discussion forum you know.

If you are moaning about your TS being DDOS’ed then fair enough. JQ’s TS has been DDOS’ed lots and lots and lots of times as has SoR’s and now TC’s. It happens, deal with it.

Diplomacy is also a weapon.

Chaba.5410:

How dare two servers work together! /sarcasm

Yea this has totally never happened before. /sarcasm

mysticque.6182:

I’ll break this down for you.

1. Everyone likes to think they get the most 2v1- it’s actually a pretty even split, because (A) you really only remember when it happens to you and (B) striking when the third party has the target occupied (IE making use of opportune moments) is not necessarily 2v1, but the target easily mistakes it for 2v1

JQ already made prior arrangements with TC soon as the first 2 weeks didn’t work on their favor or let me rephrase never had a chance to even match on 1 on 1 level.

ah, now we get it, how about you cry more…..

what is the 1 vs 1 anyway? you are aware a WvWvW match up is three servers right and its 3 servers for a reason.

Nike.2631:

Diplomacy is also a weapon.

Diplomacy is also the art of running your mouth constantly without actually saying anything of substance, the art of saying “good dog” while reaching for something to beat said dog with, and finally the art of ganging up on the #1 make them taste the defeat they likely are so used to dishing out…

What’s best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women.
Even Conan needed a posse

ah, now we get it, how about you cry more…..

what is the 1 vs 1 anyway? you are aware a WvWvW match up is three servers right and its 3 servers for a reason.

you really need to know the difference between a logical perspective over an utter cry from a toddler. read my post properly please. I did not say about 3v3 as that is not the case.

Yeahh...............

I feel bad for the BGers still fighting out there against all odds while a select few make the server look bad with QQ.

For a server that is getting relentlessly 2v1ed BG is doing amazing. TC and JQ are just doing what is necessary, and the dynamics will shift in the coming weeks depending on who wins this and next week’s matchup (which will be BG/JQ/SoS or BG/TC/SoS, and if JQ or TC wins both weeks 3 and 4 then they will become the target on week 5. It all comes around.).

we don’t really care about jq/tc 2v1 us entire game.. just we all want to remove the limitations in wvw. then we are talking fair game

I’m on BG, loving this situation, after this week I’m a hell of a lot more interested in the season. I trolled JQQ so this is only fair, #BGtears.

“You think your gold and your lions and gold lions make you better than everyone. May I tell you a secret? You’re not a golden lion. You’re just a pink little man who is far too slow on the draw.”

Other wah wah wah stuff aside, the limitation on 5 people for most skills has to do with server resources. As all of us have probably experienced, we don’t really need something adding to the burden on the server. I basically main an ele, I’d love to hit more people with my tomato storms, but its not really feasible.

#BGtears

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Well i thought i was banned for the other BG cry baby thread…

To all of you on BG that understand “this is not personal, Only business” of this 2v1 and keep fighting… you have my respect…

To the others
1. ANET will do nothing about it. They actually encourage this behavior.
the smaller servers teaming up against the bigger to have a chance to win.
2. stop posting these threads, it makes you look bad. (since this is how you won season one)
3. don’t tell us how good your blob is. it’s a joke! i have not seen one BG guild or mini blob this season fight us when we have equal numbers. (look at your own posted video’s.)

Again for all those BG sticking with it and fighting to the end. You have mine and many other players and guilds respect.

Sab.5291:

3. don’t tell us how good your blob is. it’s a joke! i have not seen one BG guild or mini blob this season fight us when we have equal numbers. (look at your own posted video’s.)

You’re right, we had less numbers

http://youtu.be/HwuVxiEhk24

lol all this “crying” remarks. TC couldn’t handle this WvW season, so they call JQ to make allience. TC is JQ’s babies. They can laugh while they can, while it lasts.

FearedbytheGods.8617:

“You think your gold and your lions and gold lions make you better than everyone. May I tell you a secret? You’re not a golden lion. You’re just a pink little man who is far too slow on the draw.”

There’s a storm coming, Mysticque.6182. You and your friends better batten down the hatches, because when it hits, you’re all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large and leave so little for the rest of us.

#BGtears

Geekfox.4267:

lol all this “crying” remarks. TC couldn’t handle this WvW season, so they call JQ to make allience. TC is JQ’s babies. They can laugh while they can, while it lasts.

We will laugh all the way to the end.
As long as BG is not in the top spot!

I didn’t see your post complaining about BG and TC doing a 2v1 against JQ in week one of the tournament. You only care because you are the victim this time instead of the instigator.

Pinkus.2860:

Sab.5291:

3. don’t tell us how good your blob is. it’s a joke! i have not seen one BG guild or mini blob this season fight us when we have equal numbers. (look at your own posted video’s.)

You’re right, we had less numbers

http://youtu.be/HwuVxiEhk24

Have you ever thought about upgrading your pc? The graphics looks bizarre.

lol

as usual, 2v1 is only unfair when it is working against you.

if the 2v1 is working for you, it is fine.

If you didn’t want the other servers to gang up on you then you shouldn’t have

-Tanked pre seasons in hopes of getting more guilds
-Use deceit and lies to recruit
-Stack way more than beyond what was “needed”
-Bought guilds using money

Doomdesire.9365:

If you didn’t want the other servers to gang up on you then you shouldn’t have

-Tanked pre seasons in hopes of getting more guilds
-Use deceit and lies to recruit
-Stack way more than beyond what was “needed”
-Bought guilds using money

….and troll like a kitten on the other matchup forums with the ‘beastgate’ bs.

Karma really does exist.

2v1 is fine, they are allowed to do that if they want. I think it kind of goes against the spirit of the game being a 3-way free-for-all, but it’s still smart strategy. The DDoS attacks on our TS, however, are not cool and need to stop. Things like that, hacking (not accusing anyone of this), or having spies on enemy servers that purposely destroy golems or throw down junk siege to cap the siege limit are all stepping across a line that is no longer fair play. I’m sure that the majority of JQ don’t know who’s doing it, so there’s probably nothing they can do, but it still sucks.

Thanks TC for the whopping 2500 kills i received reset night!!

Just came from WVW and again DOUBLE teamed!!! If the winner is JQ or TC then they wont truly be a winner!!! Double Teaming is Cheating plain and simple!!! Is there anyway Anet that u can stop the unfairness of this like maybe have an in game chat so TS or Mumble is not required. Have it in WVW where opposing teams cannot communicate with each other to the best of your ability! Soooo many people are getting VERY FRUSTRATED!!!! If the double teaming continues causing BG to lose then a TRUE winner cannot be announced this season!! Those that play know the truth of the matter!!!
Any help Anet in making this a true WVW battle would be soooo appreciated!!!
Thank you.

Wraith.9426:

2v1 is fine, they are allowed to do that if they want. I think it kind of goes against the spirit of the game being a 3-way free-for-all, but it’s still smart strategy. The DDoS attacks on our TS, however, are not cool and need to stop. Things like that, hacking (not accusing anyone of this), or having spies on enemy servers that purposely destroy golems or throw down junk siege to cap the siege limit are all stepping across a line that is no longer fair play. I’m sure that the majority of JQ don’t know who’s doing it, so there’s probably nothing they can do, but it still sucks.

wow, you finally know how TC feels… This has been nothing new and has been going on here for a long time. Whats worse, is we know what server our trolls are from and still they allow this to happen.
I think there should be a ANET adviser on all the time, to contact when this happens so it could be dealt with immediately.
This would end the problem.

It Takes A Thief.7295:

Just came from WVW and again DOUBLE teamed!!! If the winner is JQ or TC then they wont truly be a winner!!! Double Teaming is Cheating plain and simple!!! Is there anyway Anet that u can stop the unfairness of this like maybe have an in game chat so TS or Mumble is not required. Have it in WVW where opposing teams cannot communicate with each other to the best of your ability! Soooo many people are getting VERY FRUSTRATED!!!! If the double teaming continues causing BG to lose then a TRUE winner cannot be announced this season!! Those that play know the truth of the matter!!!
Any help Anet in making this a true WVW battle would be soooo appreciated!!!
Thank you.

History lesson, because you must be new to BG.

How do you think BG won season one?

Oh my, WvW drama

grabs pop-corn

Wraith.9426:

2v1 is fine, they are allowed to do that if they want. I think it kind of goes against the spirit of the game being a 3-way free-for-all, but it’s still smart strategy. The DDoS attacks on our TS, however, are not cool and need to stop. Things like that, hacking (not accusing anyone of this), or having spies on enemy servers that purposely destroy golems or throw down junk siege to cap the siege limit are all stepping across a line that is no longer fair play. I’m sure that the majority of JQ don’t know who’s doing it, so there’s probably nothing they can do, but it still sucks.

Where have you been the last ~year when JQ, but mainly SoR TS was ddos’d nearly every day? What goes around comes around.

count down till this thread is removed by moderators!

Get your comments in quick!

‘we play for bg tears’

This is really getting sad. I’m not sure SBI QQ’d this much last season, BG.

It’s only been 3 days. If the 2v1 goes on for the whole tournament I wonder what will happen to BG.

Sab.5291:

(since this is how you won season one)

They won season one because, as everyone knows, you can’t invade Russia in the Winter.

Vespirisa.1497:

It’s only been 3 days. If the 2v1 goes on for the whole tournament I wonder what will happen to BG.

Well first they will need to shut down the entire forum!
or auto direct to the official WvW forum : www.gw2wvw.net

cause it will get ugly!!!

Vespirisa.1497:

It’s only been 3 days. If the 2v1 goes on for the whole tournament I wonder what will happen to BG.

Well first they will most likely claim we are stacked or something, then they will tank for a few weeks and secretly recruit more guilds.

Piogre.2164:

Sab.5291:

(since this is how you won season one)

They won season one because, as everyone knows, you can’t invade Russia in the Winter.

Or have a battle of wits with a Sicilian when death is involved! (thank you princess bride)

oh, to keep this thread alive, perhaps FA and SbI can do the same towards HoD… haha

This thread is ridiculous. Both origin, and respondents.
Only one sensible post by the [STUN] guy.

We (@ Nocturnal) will keep playing WvW as we always have, regardless of how the opposition respond.
See you on the borderlands tonight TC, and JQ.

/Salute

azizul.8469:

oh, to keep this thread alive, perhaps FA and SbI can do the same towards HoD… haha

your not allowed….
But we can start a vicious roomer that your servers are behind all the trolling going on

1st week – BG double teams TC with JQ most of the week (not all but most)
2nd week – BG double teams TC with SoS the entire week
3rd week – BG seems mad they are getting double teamed continuously.

There is absolutely no benefit in not double teaming BG considering their coverage. If any server wants to place higher, they need to keep them down due to their coverage. The funny thing is, considering all the double teaming that was going on in TC during the 1st 2 weeks, they were never in the same predicament BG is in now. At least they could still control chunks of the map (congrats TC).

The way Anet has it layed out in the swiss style format, if this continues (which it probably will), BG will come in 4th or 5th (most likely 5th). It would be to the other servers benefit to keep them that way if they want to place higher.

My advice to BG if you don’t want it to continue:

A) De-stack your servers (aka) whatever guilds transferred there, leave
B) Don’t blob the map, (aka) don’t run in any numbers greater than 50.

Not doing both of those gives other servers perfect reason to double team and keep you pushed down in 3rd.