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Posted by: jzack.1573

jzack.1573

I am probably going to be villified as a QQer here but I gotta be honest, recent events are very much making me not want to play. I don’t mind a good WvW fight, I don’t mind losing fights and battles, I don’t mind our server getting stomped into the ground.

What I do mind is when people take advantage of game issues and then do crazy stuff like stay under the map of our keep so that it’s constantly contested. That makes it no fun, and not something I want to be a part of.

Fix the issues please ArenaNet. There are people who exploit this stuff for their own pleasure and drive players away from the game who come expecting people to play with some kind of ethics about not cheating. WvW is really the best part of this game but I am going to stick to PvE till it gets fixed or the PvE content gets too boring to even log on anymore.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

Your cheaters only stay under a keep so its contested? Sweet. There is a cheater on FSP that’s usually beneath Stonemist that can take like half the HP of everyone in a stacked 30 man zerg with AoE burning attacks (I think its an elementalist?). You’re hit by unknown so you cant even report him. And even if 50 people reported him, do you really think Anets automatic system would care? I mean seeing as how we used to report teleport bot like 50 times a day for months.

Anet has done very little to help afaik so its unlikely to ever be fixed. Deal with it, ignore it, move on. Try to have fun anyway. Its not always easy but its the only thing we can do.

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Posted by: Ark Bladesteele.2943

Ark Bladesteele.2943

I hate it when folks run to certain cliff edges in the BL where they can attack you but you cannot attack them. Seriously, this is a video game, must you really be scared of dying? If you are scared of death then you are not living.

I believe that’s called “taunting” and/or “baiting” like the little invul corner outside gate of north camp. I’ve baited entire roaming groups into attacking me there not realizing it’s invul and wiping them one by one by leaving the invul spot so they see damage and running back to it. Sometimes, when it’s 1v8 and there’s no way you’re going to stop them from taking the camp, it’s fun to have a little payback. Especially if the person(s) are too dumb to realize at least after the first dead guy that I’m popping into the invul zone.

I really don’t know what to say to the last part of your post, but I’d say a lot of people who say they aren’t scared to die (as in, dying for real, ceasing to exist, etc) probably have never had the experience of nearly dying. That’ll scare ya up real kittenin quick.

Other than that I’ll suicide all the time to take root in the middle of a cap just to kitten people off for a few more seconds while they hack away at my invulnerable soon-to-be corpse.

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Posted by: atheria.2837

atheria.2837

I am probably going to be villified as a QQer here but I gotta be honest, recent events are very much making me not want to play. I don’t mind a good WvW fight, I don’t mind losing fights and battles, I don’t mind our server getting stomped into the ground.

What I do mind is when people take advantage of game issues and then do crazy stuff like stay under the map of our keep so that it’s constantly contested. That makes it no fun, and not something I want to be a part of.

Fix the issues please ArenaNet. There are people who exploit this stuff for their own pleasure and drive players away from the game who come expecting people to play with some kind of ethics about not cheating. WvW is really the best part of this game but I am going to stick to PvE till it gets fixed or the PvE content gets too boring to even log on anymore.

Anet won’t even respond to their own ticketing system.

WvW is falling apart at the seams – I can’t figure out why Anet stopped running their own characters on servers.

We needed them there…

We wanted them there…

It is FAR more civilized when they ARE there.

The devs and others who work for Anet have given up on their own important end game.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

I believe that’s called “taunting” and/or “baiting” like the little invul corner outside gate of north camp. I’ve baited entire roaming groups into attacking me there not realizing it’s invul and wiping them one by one by leaving the invul spot so they see damage and running back to it. Sometimes, when it’s 1v8 and there’s no way you’re going to stop them from taking the camp, it’s fun to have a little payback. Especially if the person(s) are too dumb to realize at least after the first dead guy that I’m popping into the invul zone.

Sometimes it’s also a tactical maneuver. I’ve done the whole “run to my little Invuln corner” a few times too when I’ve tried to cap the SW camp by myself and then suddenly a honking huge zerg rolls in. I ran back to the corner and just /sat, ignoring the taunts and emotes the zerg threw my way. The way I saw it, the more time I made them spend sitting there taunting me is less time they spend doing other stuff, allowing my server (or even the other server) opportunity to cause trouble elsewhere.

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Posted by: Offair.2563

Offair.2563

My view is that its not baiting. Let me know if Anet approves of this exploit

They simply dont care, unless someone finds an exploit on gemstore. This stuff is going on from launch and that is quite long ago so were safe to assume they dont care.

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Posted by: Baldrick.8967

Baldrick.8967

There are no issues/glitches/bugs/exploits in wvw. Anyone who says otherwise will be infracted and their topic deleted, just to ensure that if they can’t be read they don’t exist.

WvW player. Doing another world completion for my next Legendary. Hater of mini-games.

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Posted by: Fuzzion.2504

Fuzzion.2504

Dang, let me delete all the replies.

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Posted by: Alfwyn.8704

Alfwyn.8704

Your cheaters only stay under a keep so its contested? Sweet. There is a cheater on FSP that’s usually beneath Stonemist that can take like half the HP of everyone in a stacked 30 man zerg with AoE burning attacks (I think its an elementalist?). You’re hit by unknown so you cant even report him. And even if 50 people reported him, do you really think Anets automatic system would care? I mean seeing as how we used to report teleport bot like 50 times a day for months.

Class skill AoE’s are limited to hitting 5 people max, so it’s no that. Some siege weapon?

Would working together with the enemy server on the issue work? They should at least be able to see the name for the dot on the minimap.

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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

@everyone,

Fear not! Today is game patch day. We will see all the great work from the WvW team today. Since they haven’t really delivered anything this year, today might be the day!

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Posted by: Offair.2563

Offair.2563

@everyone,

Fear not! Today is game patch day. We will see all the great work from the WvW team today. Since they haven’t really delivered anything this year, today might be the day!

as in fixing tooltips no one cared about? lol

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

Straegen.2938

Our Overlook outside gate was at 10% from someone under the map damaging it. So many bugs have gone unfixed in WvW. I really hope they have a big WvW surprise patch in the wings but at this point will anyone be left to care?

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

MightyMicah.7451

Everyone is so dramatic. Please consider another perspective than, “Anet h8 us dey ony kare abt da monies.”

Bugs are not easy things to fix in general. Some bugs are even harder to fix than others. For example, if a gem store item isn’t selling properly, it will take some time for them to fix the coding on that particular item in the gem store. Once the error in the coding has been identified, it can be resolved.

However, when the bug is something foundational to the game itself, it is much, much harder to fix. This particular bug where people can get under keeps is due to shadowstepping/blinking/lighting flashing/whatever the heck you want to call it. Due to the nature of the actual structures in the game, and the way shadowstepping is designed, it can be extremely difficult to fix. They either have to rework every single structure in the game (might as well make another game), or rework blinks, also another very difficult process.

If you follow wooden potatoes on YouTube, or even if you don’t, check out his video on blinks. He explains in detail about how the coding for blinks works and if you pay attention, you’ll realized that there is no easy fix. For pve, there have been a few select locations like the one in divinity’s reach where they added some extra texture there to block the particular blink location. What happened? People found other areas to break out of the map from.

Personally, I think a good solution would be to add a dangerous layer of texture underneath the entire map. This way, anyone dropping below the map will just die. However, there may be unforeseen difficulties with this as well. All in all, it takes some serious time and effort to fix any kind of exploit so please, for the love of everything good in the world, stop the useless wining and try and help out a bit.

P.S. This post is not directed at anyone in particular. It is meant for every person who wines and complains while offering no solutions or even any information to help the devs get to the bottom of the issue.

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Posted by: Otaur.9268

Otaur.9268

We shall see in September if we getting a WvW update with the balance patch… Which should also be in September…

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

Straegen.2938

Everyone is so dramatic. Please consider another perspective than, “Anet h8 us dey ony kare abt da monies.”

Bugs are not easy things to fix in general. Some bugs are even harder to fix than others. For example, if a gem store item isn’t selling properly, it will take some time for them to fix the coding on that particular item in the gem store. Once the error in the coding has been identified, it can be resolved.

As a long time developer (25 years now) I agree with the sentiment but many of the WvW bugs have endured since release. Bugs don’t sit around that long when a product is being actively developed unless the developer simply doesn’t want to fix them or is incompetent. I don’t think ANet devs are incompetent.

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