WvW from a solo thief's perspective
I think its refreshing to see someone take the solo roaming strength of the thief and put it to work actually benefiting their team (more than usual :P) as oppose to the ‘lololol watch me kill 30 people with the same 3 button presses over a 10 minute video’, which i personally find boring and lame.
Props for the nice thief skills, wouldn’t want you in behind my zerg while we’re trying to cap a tower
Blacktalon
Army of Devona [AoD]
good work – I for one HATE thieves and can’t even play one properly, but I just wish the guardian had some of the escape moves you showed us here! Pretty good play overall, but I have to say that you faced a few stooopids there
Keep the Faith (and stay out of AC fire)
Now i see things clear why people cry about thiefs and where are they come from. This lower tier scill-level is awesome and i could bet on it the most people have know idea how the class of thiefs operates/works.
Surely if you play wvw just for fun and you dont be interested in how things works, some of very crazy situations could be happen …
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I want to face the server you’re fighting.
They just let you pick them off one by one as they stood there… and CC! Not a single one of them knocked you down or immobilized you until the end.
If my thief was to face a zerg that size in the tier I’m in. He would literally melt away as people know to burst focus fire and AOE. And of course CC!
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I like your playstyle. It must require alot of patience.
i belive you took 5 kills ( accrding to your stacks) in 7 minutes with an 30 ppls zerg behind vs another zerg of low lvls. Even the ones you took were running from your zerg , nobody fought back
Another vid of a thief killing players who act like cattle chewing grass…
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All respect to you, but you are fighting very low skilled people in an unorganised squad. Makes it hard to determine whether you are a good or a bad player. I would personally like to see something like a dual video from your point of view
Red Guard
No where in this video did I see the so called over powered 1 shot or even 2 or even 3 shot killer, perma stealth I saw a perfectly balanced character that needed to pick his targets very carefully , most under 80 and or damaged , and when things don’t go well 90% of the time , fast thinking to get out and away Just the way the devs wanted the thief to be, Thank you for showing the true light when it comes to the thief , looks like a lot of fun
He didn’t even need stealth to open up on half the people there. People just don’t rotate their camera.
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{Thief}
Thanks for all the positive comments, yeah my point was to try to show how a can distract and pick off enemies, and cause some confusion etc. Not just about 1-2 hit killing people.
I want to face the server you’re fighting.
SoS looks like its heading towards those types of servers!
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
perma stealth I saw a perfectly balanced character
Because your own perspective doesn’t propagate the culling/rendering issues that others would have of your toon -.-
His video demonstrated more skill than most but once again your missing the point of what makes a thief OP.
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
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I would personally like to see something like a dual video from your point of view
Sorry dont get what you mean, dual video point of view?
sorry but i miss the “solo” part.
I can’t help but laugh, Thieves have become so defensive lately rofl
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Another vid of a thief killing players who act like cattle chewing grass…
Yeah but well, it’s so kitten easy. I’d like to see a Guardian, a Ranger or a Necro performing this with that much ease. There are 800 Thief videos for a reason.
Another vid of a thief killing players who act like cattle chewing grass…
Yeah but well, it’s so kitten easy. I’d like to see a Guardian, a Ranger or a Necro performing this with that much ease. There are 800 Thief videos for a reason.
The real reason opponents look a bit crap on thief videos is because they can’t see the thief – even if they are good players. That’s it really.
People aren’t mind-readers, swinging in mid-air and burning aoe cooldowns when the thief isn’t even there is going to look dumb any way you look at it.
Basically stealth is the crutch that makes the thief player look better than he/she actually is.
Another vid of a thief killing players who act like cattle chewing grass…
Yeah but well, it’s so kitten easy. I’d like to see a Guardian, a Ranger or a Necro performing this with that much ease. There are 800 Thief videos for a reason.
The real reason opponents look a bit crap on thief videos is because they can’t see the thief – even if they are good players. That’s it really.
People aren’t mind-readers, swinging in mid-air and burning aoe cooldowns when the thief isn’t even there is going to look dumb any way you look at it.
Basically stealth is the crutch that makes the thief player look better than he/she actually is.
I know totally what you’re saying, but have a look at around 5:10… the thief is clearly visible and 3 nincumpoops cant land 1 hit one a surprise attack!
Keep the Faith (and stay out of AC fire)
Stealth mechanics let anyone look dumb because fighting what you cant see is like gambling. You have to predict where the thieve could be. You dont get any reliable feedback, when you actually hit a stealthed thief.
There are times when you are lucky. But you wont find those moments in thief vids. Those vids only show moments when you are unlucky and those moments lets you look like a complete jerk.
Haha, he spams aoe on my SR but I’m miles away due to shadow step.
Haha, he wastes his CC in that direction but I dodged in the opposite direction.
Haha, he doesnt dodge my backstab because of culling / lag.
Haha, I’m the greatest thief on earth.
Oops, I died… let me cut this off.
What an awesome video, try that in tier 1.
Stealth mechanics let anyone look dumb because fighting what you cant see is like gambling. You have to predict where the thieve could be. You dont get any reliable feedback, when you actually hit a stealthed thief.
There are times when you are lucky. But you wont find those moments in thief vids. Those vids only show moments when you are unlucky and those moments lets you look like a complete jerk.
Haha, he spams aoe on my SR but I’m miles away due to shadow step.
Haha, he wastes his CC in that direction but I dodged in the opposite direction.
Haha, he doesnt dodge my backstab because of culling / lag.
Haha, I’m the greatest thief on earth.
Oops, I died… let me cut this off.
well just try to be a little objective…i know its hard.
What’s the chance of opponent hitting you enough times while stealthed?
Its just hard to hit you ONCE while stealthed but its quite difficult to kill with a single hit…(unless you are a glass cannon in that case you are dead and the thief on the forum will proceed to say “wear some PVT you noob” things completely wrong by itself)
You have to gamble your aoe on a 360°+distance so its an uneven bet.
Its not so hard to understand.
AoE are not a good answer to stealth…..its the only little chance to kill predictable (read BAD) thieves…that is all.
Culling is not even the problem…..stealth should be something like mesmers:
A tool you have to use for short times with long CD and NEVER paired with mobility, burst, and insane survival mechanics.
Just remove initiative system for stealth…
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Basically stealth is the crutch that makes the thief player look better than he/she actually is.
That’s what thief players don’t get.
I have a thief, I use it often, I have so much fun with it in WvW. What makes me kitten a thief is that I have alts that are now full geared and its completely insane what a thief can do.
Most thief players have no perspective.
The Warrior turns to the guardian and says, “Did you hear something?”
Guardian replies, “No, but how’d the elementalist die?”
What an awesome video, try that in tier 1.
Yishis already has it covered
Stealth mechanics let anyone look dumb because fighting what you cant see is like gambling. You have to predict where the thieve could be. You dont get any reliable feedback, when you actually hit a stealthed thief.
There are times when you are lucky. But you wont find those moments in thief vids. Those vids only show moments when you are unlucky and those moments lets you look like a complete jerk.
Haha, he spams aoe on my SR but I’m miles away due to shadow step.
Haha, he wastes his CC in that direction but I dodged in the opposite direction.
Haha, he doesnt dodge my backstab because of culling / lag.
Haha, I’m the greatest thief on earth.
Oops, I died… let me cut this off.well just try to be a little objective…i know its hard.
What’s the chance of opponent hitting you enough times while stealthed?
Its just hard to hit you ONCE while stealthed but its quite difficult to kill with a single hit…(unless you are a glass cannon in that case you are dead and the thief on the forum will proceed to say “wear some PVT you noob” things completely wrong by itself)You have to gamble your aoe on a 360°+distance so its an uneven bet.
Its not so hard to understand.
AoE are not a good answer to stealth…..its the only little chance to kill predictable (read BAD) thieves…that is all.
Culling is not even the problem…..stealth should be something like mesmers:
A tool you have to use for short times with long CD and NEVER paired with mobility, burst, and insane survival mechanics.Just remove initiative system for stealth…
Yeah, no. Those suggestion would make S/D and P/D the most worthless sets in the game. The non stealth sets would be significantly weakened losing both attack and mobility, all that would remain useable is backstab burst specs.
Part-time Kittenposter
Nice Job! but I feel like you have to move faster! I actually despair while watching your video lol, might be just my point of view thought :P
Oh and just ignore the common masses of thief/“pro” haters lol they are everywhere
Basically stealth is the crutch that makes the thief player look better than he/she actually is.
Actually, stealth is the primary mechanism that makes a thief more useful to play than an engineer. Stealth just also happens to be the mechanism that makes a thief more annoying to fight than a mesmer. Culling accentuates both.
Stormbluff Isle [AoD]
Nice video. I have to say that you could have been meaner and more effective than it shows in the vid but still shows what a thief can do.
For example, cloak and dagger before finishing someone, that way you can’t be interrupted.