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Posted by: Orochimaru.4730

Orochimaru.4730

So we’ve seen 2 clips of where the CEO doesnt even know what they are talking about. The is no future to WvW.

WvW was flawed thanks to this and the neglect.
The biggest flaw being generic servers, the second being regional servers.

I think we need a new mode. It could be Alliance vs Alliance, or Faction vs Faction, or even Race vs Race.

Create new servers, these servers will be AvA specific, not general PvE.
Have different race cities be the staging grounds and main base for each Alliance.
Each zone map will have several towers which will have to be captured in order for an Alliance to claim the map.

Not only does this not limit us to just 3 maps, it allows more players to play at any one time. You’ll have the whole of Tyria to fight over.

This is of course just one idea, post your own replacement modes.

And of course these are just examples of different things, cos if they dont have the resources to update WvW, no way in hell will they have the resources to create a new game mode!

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Posted by: Zera.8907

Zera.8907

I agree, something needs to be done about WvW or many of those that haven’t already left because of the lack of attention to it will eventually do so….

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Posted by: LetoII.3782

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New playable race: Orrian
Sadly, open world PvP rarely lasts long historically.

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

I’m all for open world pvp but that’s not the same as WvW. You don’t need to destroy one to have the other.

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Posted by: Quells.2498

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I would really love an open world pvp server.

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Posted by: mordran.4750

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Create new servers, these servers will be AvA specific, not general PvE.
Have different race cities be the staging grounds and main base for each Alliance.
Each zone map will have several towers which will have to be captured in order for an Alliance to claim the map.

Won´t happen because

we’ve seen 2 clips of where the CEO doesnt even know what they are talking about.

They have no clue whatsoever about RvR and how people play it, instead they are busy with creating trolly events with buggy code. They even don´t care about fixing exploits which came in with the event. I´m so sick of seeing people running around with the +100%Dmg to players buff.

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Posted by: SkiTz.4590

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Anet is focused on gemstore junk and appeasing the PvE carebears who literally spend money and play barbie doll wars 2 aka dress up and stand around lions arch looking a fairy.

The time/cost of resources to fix WvW ailing issues is pretty high, with minimal to no reward revenue. Why would anet care about something that generates very little revenue

WvW is just a mini-game in the eyes of anet.

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Posted by: DarkSyze.8627

DarkSyze.8627

Anet is focused on gemstore junk and appeasing the PvE carebears who literally spend money and play barbie doll wars 2 aka dress up and stand around lions arch looking a fairy.

The time/cost of resources to fix WvW ailing issues is pretty high, with minimal to no reward revenue. Why would anet care about something that generates very little revenue

WvW is just a mini-game in the eyes of anet.

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

Anet is focused on gemstore junk and appeasing the PvE carebears who literally spend money and play barbie doll wars 2 aka dress up and stand around lions arch looking a fairy.

The time/cost of resources to fix WvW ailing issues is pretty high, with minimal to no reward revenue. Why would anet care about something that generates very little revenue

WvW is just a mini-game in the eyes of anet.

DarkSyze why the hell do you keep quoting threads without adding anything to the conversation?

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Posted by: DarkSyze.8627

DarkSyze.8627

Anet is focused on gemstore junk and appeasing the PvE carebears who literally spend money and play barbie doll wars 2 aka dress up and stand around lions arch looking a fairy.

The time/cost of resources to fix WvW ailing issues is pretty high, with minimal to no reward revenue. Why would anet care about something that generates very little revenue

WvW is just a mini-game in the eyes of anet.

DarkSyze why the hell do you keep quoting threads without adding anything to the conversation?

Because i support what the person say and i do not want to add more to it.

Oh by the way, hi Puck,

I will soon visit the ranger forum

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

Anet is focused on gemstore junk and appeasing the PvE carebears who literally spend money and play barbie doll wars 2 aka dress up and stand around lions arch looking a fairy.

The time/cost of resources to fix WvW ailing issues is pretty high, with minimal to no reward revenue. Why would anet care about something that generates very little revenue

WvW is just a mini-game in the eyes of anet.

DarkSyze why the hell do you keep quoting threads without adding anything to the conversation?

Because i support what the person say and i do not want to add more to it.

Oh by the way, hi Puck,

I will soon visit the ranger forum

Then stick to clicking the +1 button on the side of the post. You’ve never had anything worth saying anyway.

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Posted by: Liston.9708

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New playable race: Orrian
Sadly, open world PvP rarely lasts long historically.

Agreed. Rift still has a decent pop in the end zones of most shards – except the pvp shard….

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Posted by: Josh XT.6053

Josh XT.6053

Suppose now is a good time to start packing up and moving myself and friends to a different game.

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Posted by: Zetsumei.4975

Zetsumei.4975

Cant wait to see anet squirm when camelot unchained is released

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

Crapgame.6519

Cant wait to see anet squirm when camelot unchained is released

One can only hope. 2016 is the window which probably means later half if he makes it. If they can pull it off there isn’t much GW2 can do to compete. If it has anything close to Darkness Falls.

Well, so long and thank you for the fish.

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

Cant wait to see anet squirm when camelot unchained is released

Yeah that will be when they finally get around to paying attention to WvW. Unfortunately they are so clueless they will screw it up as badly as this event.

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Posted by: Aezyr.5304

Aezyr.5304

So we’ve seen 2 clips of where the CEO doesnt even know what they are talking about. The is no future to WvW.

WvW was flawed thanks to this and the neglect.
The biggest flaw being generic servers, the second being regional servers.

I think we need a new mode. It could be Alliance vs Alliance, or Faction vs Faction, or even Race vs Race.

Create new servers, these servers will be AvA specific, not general PvE.
Have different race cities be the staging grounds and main base for each Alliance.
Each zone map will have several towers which will have to be captured in order for an Alliance to claim the map.

Not only does this not limit us to just 3 maps, it allows more players to play at any one time. You’ll have the whole of Tyria to fight over.

This is of course just one idea, post your own replacement modes.

And of course these are just examples of different things, cos if they dont have the resources to update WvW, no way in hell will they have the resources to create a new game mode!

Get your fat fingers away from my server. It stays the way it is IMHO.

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Posted by: Orochimaru.4730

Orochimaru.4730

Then stick to clicking the +1 button on the side of the post..

And what does that do?

The devs dont even bother looking at our posts, so why would they bother with +1 posts?

And how do we see how many others have +1 a post? Only people who made the post can see if their post was +1, and even then they cannot see how many people did!

The +1 feature of this forum is as about as useful as it’s search feature.

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Posted by: Stark.1350

Stark.1350

I see a lot of complaining about coverage when it comes to WvW.

But I’ve never seen any decent solution posted by anyone. Sadly the only one is having it like EotM – red, green and blue. But that kinda takes away from server identity.

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Posted by: illenos.5134

illenos.5134

I see a lot of complaining about coverage when it comes to WvW.

But I’ve never seen any decent solution posted by anyone. Sadly the only one is having it like EotM – red, green and blue. But that kinda takes away from server identity.

You can’t control coverage so the only way to fix it is by introducing new mechanics to the ppt system like scaling it based on the actual number of players or something like that.

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Posted by: Crapgame.6519

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I see a lot of complaining about coverage when it comes to WvW.

But I’ve never seen any decent solution posted by anyone. Sadly the only one is having it like EotM – red, green and blue. But that kinda takes away from server identity.

Coverage is a bit complicated and isn’t unique to GW2 community. It will actually take some development resources, time, and money. Since they don’t think there is any ROI it won’t happen. This dates back to earlier games such as DaOC which had similar population issues with classes and servers. So no, not unique here.

As to why you don’t get decent solutions by anyone that isn’t really true. See my point above in that this is really a larger issue and at the design level. It sort of goes South when you have server rankings and transfers. There needs to be cross server portals, alliances, and other things to bring in reinforcements.

However, what we have today is nothing or no interest or with respect to the designers or developers no communication. Thus, to the community we assume the worst and say nothing is being done.

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Posted by: Zoke.2147

Zoke.2147

I really hope some of the datamined maps WP went through are the works of a format that would be smaller, and more limmited in scope (maybe a few hours) and meant to be played as matches between alliences of guilds as opposed to servers.

Server vs server formats are almost always hopeless for population reasons. especially when people can’t freely flow between servers and have to pay… it just makes a huge mess of imbalance and unfun. No one likes blobbing. and tbh Blobbing over people isn’t fun either. Fights of around 10 – 20 or so people are far more fun.

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Posted by: lujate.5432

lujate.5432

Cant wait to see anet squirm when camelot unchained is released

One can only hope. 2016 is the window which probably means later half if he makes it. If they can pull it off there isn’t much GW2 can do to compete. If it has anything close to Darkness Falls.

Well, so long and thank you for the fish.

A little competition in the RvR market would be good for GW2. CU does have some striking differences though, so I’m not sure they’ll truly be in the same space.

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Posted by: Puck.9612

Puck.9612

Then stick to clicking the +1 button on the side of the post..

And what does that do?

The devs dont even bother looking at our posts, so why would they bother with +1 posts?

And how do we see how many others have +1 a post? Only people who made the post can see if their post was +1, and even then they cannot see how many people did!

The +1 feature of this forum is as about as useful as it’s search feature.

What good does it do to quote a post and post nothing at all? He literally just reposted the post above his…. it’s just more of his worthless forum spam.

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Posted by: Deli.1302

Deli.1302

What is the difference between WvW and AvA? Guilds on a server = alliance