Guild Wars 2

You need to insult others a little less and critically think about what you’re talking about a little harder. Saying that the AOE cap is low is a valid argument, saying that argument is “drivel” doesn’t really address the point and just shows you lack a valid counter.

Second, don’t start off your entire counter argument with a lie. Your 5-8 man has never rolled a 50+ zerg. You didn’t really address the point anyways. I’m bored as well but not this bored so i’ll just concede my point and do something else.

You won’t see organized groups 24/7 on every server. I would like everyone to step up their play, but even the new “progression” system rewards grinding and zerging, attacking and not defending,

WvW is disappointing because…

- We “STILL” have to manually type and invite every single person to a WvW group. How about having the same “right-click” options as we do in PvE areas to “invite” with that thing called a mouse?

- No grouping support for custom sized squads. It’s either 5-man it or run with a zerg. If we actually had the tools to coordinate multiple groups together with control over the numbers.. perhaps we wouldn’t have so many zergs running around.

Every time I got to loot a wooden chest from a dolyak.. THERE IS NOTHING. It isnt that I have not seen the loot… THERE IS NOTHING, EVER… NOT ONCE HAS THERE BEEN A DROP FOR ME. THIS HAS TO STOP!

HeNkitten8913:

Every time I got to loot a wooden chest from a dolyak.. THERE IS NOTHING. It isnt that I have not seen the loot… THERE IS NOTHING, EVER… NOT ONCE HAS THERE BEEN A DROP FOR ME. THIS HAS TO STOP!

it could have 5 supply.

or -5 supply if you have 15.

bandwaggoners jump to the top servers then precede to announce they are number one in the forums

fivekiller.1432:

You need to insult others a little less and critically think about what you’re talking about a little harder. Saying that the AOE cap is low is a valid argument, saying that argument is “drivel” doesn’t really address the point and just shows you lack a valid counter.

Second, don’t start off your entire counter argument with a lie. Your 5-8 man has never rolled a 50+ zerg. You didn’t really address the point anyways. I’m bored as well but not this bored so i’ll just concede my point and do something else.

So the person calling me a liar is telling me I need to insult less? I never insulted you, I just said your comment: “have 10 more people than you they’ll just roll over you anyways.” was drivel.

As for the liar comment, we have rolled a 50+ zerg with I think 7 it was, didnt lose anyone either, not even a person going down. Epic fight against a guild that had no idea what they were doing outside of stacking. Is that normal, no I said it was not, but anyone that has fought our guild can attest to what we can do against zergs.

You have proven the reason I typically just end it calling your post drivel. You are so stuck on some narrow view of WvW where 10 people advantage means everything, that you are closed to discussion and incapable of critical thought or reflection. Your approach to the game is ‘cannot be done’ rather then ‘how can we do this’.

Enjoy stacking.

Because a precursor hasn’t dropped for me yet.

HeNkitten8913:

Every time I got to loot a wooden chest from a dolyak.. THERE IS NOTHING. It isnt that I have not seen the loot… THERE IS NOTHING, EVER… NOT ONCE HAS THERE BEEN A DROP FOR ME. THIS HAS TO STOP!

Unlucky, mate. I’m racking up the Slabs of Meat from those chests. Gj with the loot, Arenanet! Or is this a bug?

FractalChaos.6539:

Our west tower in SoR borderlands had a trebuchet built on the domed vista. How did the JQ zerg take it out, you think? Counter treb? Catas? Ballista?

Nah. Elementalists just stood at the wall and AoEd a trebuchet which is clearly out of both the range and line of sight of their ability. But hey, whatever right?

Yeah yeah I know, everyone has to deal with it. That’s not the point. Why the hell haven’t they figured out how to do this properly yet???

Well walls should already be cleared if you build a treb.. no? Necro’s & rangers for AoE and mesmer pull to get them off. OR build an arrowcart and get a warrior to use it – Leg specialist trait- then watch everyone standstill on the walls and you can easily get the walls cleared. It doesn’t hurt to use brains against brains.

You need to insult others
As for the liar comment, we have rolled a 50+ zerg with I think 7 it was, didnt lose anyone either, not even a person going down. Epic fight against a guild that had no idea what they were doing outside of stacking. Is that normal, no I said it was not, but anyone that has fought our guild can attest to what we can do against zergs.

Video or it didn’t happen.
In almost all “zerg owning” videos, no real zerg is getting owned. Same as all those 1vX videos that are actually videos about trolling clueless upscales.

I keep FAILING at swirls. Reasons have included:

Dead
Gathering
Accidental DE of focus
Focus is in the bank
Fighting wolves
Following the wrong commander
AFK
Still in combat
Late to combat

Ahmrill.7512:

WvW is disappointing because…

- We “STILL” have to manually type and invite every single person to a WvW group. How about having the same “right-click” options as we do in PvE areas to “invite” with that thing called a mouse?

- No grouping support for custom sized squads. It’s either 5-man it or run with a zerg. If we actually had the tools to coordinate multiple groups together with control over the numbers.. perhaps we wouldn’t have so many zergs running around.

Why are you complaining? It obviously works for JQ

We STILL do not know exactly how many points we’re playing for, or how many points many of the objectives in WvW grant! To be honest, it’s almost impossible to play like this. I can’t really think of another successful game where you play for points without ever know where the points come from or how many points you can get.

Example: Dolyaks (Supply Caravans) – We’re 8 months in, and there’s still no official word on how many points we can get for these, or how the points are determined, and no one seems to be able to back up any of the many ideas there are on this subject with any sort of evidence at all. There are at least 3 major theories floating around about this, but testing in WvW is completely unreliable; last night I watched the points tick up by 26 at the EXACT moment a Yak died. Of course, I don’t believe that a Yak is worth 26 points under any circumstance as that would be completely game breaking, but it’s just an example of how unreliable this sort of testing is. It does feel like we’re playing blindfolded without this information, as we’re playing a competitive game for points, but without even knowing how many points we get for several of the objectives in WvW. Dolyaks (Supply Caravans) are currently the most mysterious and frustrating.

The shift from a game that required some form of tactics to ‘omfg wera 150man french blobsquad’ is perhaps the most disappointing.

Atrocious class balance (rangers still utter gimps after 8 months now? Warriors and rogues still better at ranged than a ranger – jeez….)

There will be no significant change to the non-existant pvp aspect of Wvw because Anet encourages zerging for two big reasons:

1.AOE is limited to 5 ppl. This favors PVErs/zerglings.
2.Downed state.You can gank a group of 10 with your 5 and even with the AOE cap you down 8 people and they would all rez off a single npc guard or random mob close by. It also encourages zerging as they can rez each other.

I’m on T1 and there is no small group action. Anyone who tells you otherwise is someone who goes out, finds a small fight then gets rolled by a zerg back into his waypoint to repeat the same pattern all evening. Half the time you are running away from zergs and hiding.What kinda game is this?

The solution is very simple: remove the cap on AOE Damage but limit the AOE buffs to 5 max to prevent favoring zergs with zero skill.

This will also give the underdog servers a chance to fight back if they are better at organizing themselves. Punish mindless clumping and reward tactics and planing. They probably are by now since the zegling upper tier servers have grown complacent and PVEish.

WvW in GW2 is PVE. If someone tells you the majority of people like zerging that is 100% true..know why? Because the previous majority wanted the same..found it boring and left the game. So you have a new majority that favors it again and the same pattern will happen till people stop WvWing.

There is absolutely zero benefit from WvWing:
1.Zerging.
2,Badge rewards: Faster to farm the mats or do dungeon runs or craft etc.
3.No good skins and even if there were that is not enough to make people grind hours through zerging once they get bored with it.
4.Title rewards..yea..ok..have fun with zerging for a useless title that any zergling can achieve.
5.Abilities gained from WvW ranks: only affect NPCs and sieging. i.e.PVE. Yay..

Switch to anothe game if you want a challenge or semblance of open world pvp. Anet will never change this and hopefully Elder scrolls online won’t be carebearish as much.

if Gvg’s were added to the game wvwvw would turn into the next phantom AB matches from the previous game.

It’s funy how wvwvw shows how classes are unbalanced and why they need different rules when in PVP realm, in my opinion that shows how the classes are poorly designed due game mechanics, there are alot of stats that dont work out of the box, and most only work on pve other will not work on pve and work better in pvp, the concept that says “play what you want, how to you want” is a placebo, all classes tend to use the same(or very similiar ones) builds and stats in armor choices at the end.

It’s not that Anet encourages zergsting, if you guys played AB on GW1, that was mostly groups or 4 that ended on groups of 12 or mobbing the spawns, this isnt much different from what is happening, the map is just bigger takes long to cap shrines(castles), and theres no queue.

P.S i just rather have shrines to cap same as AB than this pseudo siege warfare.
WvWvW, should be a complex way to get boons to the server on a real siege map(box map) and to conquer or defend a clastle could take longuer time.

Niim.9260

Our 5-8 man has rolled a 50+ guild zerg,

Oh please…

FractalChaos.6539:

Niim.9260

Our 5-8 man has rolled a 50+ guild zerg,

Oh please…

5-8 thiefs before culling fix :P ?

Master of Timespace.2548:

You need to insult others
As for the liar comment, we have rolled a 50+ zerg with I think 7 it was, didnt lose anyone either, not even a person going down. Epic fight against a guild that had no idea what they were doing outside of stacking. Is that normal, no I said it was not, but anyone that has fought our guild can attest to what we can do against zergs.

Video or it didn’t happen.
In almost all “zerg owning” videos, no real zerg is getting owned. Same as all those 1vX videos that are actually videos about trolling clueless upscales.

I guarantee he didn’t defeat a 50+ zerg with 7 people even if they were all upscaled.

Some folks will just say anything to back their point rather than admit their point is just not very good.

The AOE cap is a problem.. but i am not sure it is a problemt hat Anet can really easily resolve. lag issues are already a problem with large groups and just raising the cap would tax the servers that much harder.

fivekiller.1432:

I guarantee he didn’t owkitten0+ zerg with 7 people even if they were all upscaled.

Exactly. You give me 5 minutes to coach even just 20 random upscaled PUGs- not 50 – on any given night, and the point man in this “too pro” 7 person group will be focused down while the rest are all boon stripped, stunned, blinded, and then gutted.