Guild Wars 2

WvW is exactly where it needs to be. Periodic seasons to make fools pay for transfer gems is all it needs, 0 effort for free money.

If people want something to be done about WvW, stop playing it and stop feeding them transfer gems for the pitiable amounts of effort being put into the game mode.

I will put my two cents here but I know that the WvW devs truly won’t read anything in this thread and if they do they really just don’t care.

Incoming wall of text stay with me.

First off Anet as a company has gone downhill in terms of customer relations. They are a company and as a company they are out to make money. The whole gem store idea was great on pen and paper and I even supported it but in the long run it is that very idea that is ruining this game. Making content that they can sell like armor, boosts, musical weapons, etc is fine and dandy. But when you are constantly putting the best looking armor in there then it gets to the point where you have nothing more to do in game but buy said armor. The micro transaction as a whole is effecting the way they view content. We can get 200 gems for this 2 hours living story? HELL YEAH! They want to continue to do small updates that they can sell instead of making the expansion size updates and selling a full expansion. Why? Because they make 1000x more money doing it this way. Stay with me. Because of this business model things like WvW where other then finishers they can’t really make money off so in turn very little content.

On to the main top

WvW is in fact dying. As an ex commander with over 500 hours of commanding and triple that in general WvW the state of it is abysmal. Top guilds are leaving for other games because of burnout or just because they have completely lost faith in the game. One of the main problems is Anet made WvW as a side game mode but they never thought it would gain this much traction. Why they didn’t think it would when they have no real endgame who knows. The devs at Anet make the strangest choices and sometimes I just feel pity for their decisions. When you have the top 3 populated servers only que all maps on reset and maybe 1-2 on off nights you know it is dying.

I guess what Anet really needs to understand is how most guilds are structured and how if they do not fix WvW by adding updates, new rewards, or even fixing the achievements guilds will fall apart when a mass exodus happens. Most guilds are PvX with a lot of people doing all forms of content. Atleast in all my previous guilds people do PvE for a hour or two a day then go WvW at night when it hits peak. When WvW dies those people are not going to sit in PvE for the time they were normally in WvW. They are going to move on to a new game, which in turn guilds lose members and eventually that guild is either too small to continue or leaders end up quitting the game. I know for a fact when archeage launches myself and a lot of my friends will be switching over to that.

What can we do as a community to fix this
To be 100% honest there is absolutely nothing that we can do. Threads like these mean nothing because the devs are so closed off. That is one of the main issues with this game they are so secretive about updates while other MMO’s give you hints about whats to come. Anet just says here you go hope you like it. We as a community have given our feedback to no avail, we have waited and hoped for new content without any real subsistence.

Easiest way to help revive it
Never do seasons again. Instead implement reward systems that will bring in some PvE players every now and again so that we atleast have bodies to defend as well as fight.
What sort of updates would revive WvW
Im not going into this much because its been said numerous times but, New maps, Armor/weapons, Unique rank finishers, etc.

I guess all in all WvW will always have a somewhat decent population because more and more people play the game every day but eventually it will flatten out to about 6 servers of equal population leaving most a ghost town. It’s sad to see how much neglect is given to the game mode when it had the most potential out of any game to have come in years. I guess they want to focus on their Esports that is Spvp(which WILL NOT happen because of the lack of a trybrid game and lack of gamemodes)

TL:DR
Anet values the money side of the game more then the side of the game that people enjoy the most.

K thnx bai

Picture is the front page with threads showing either much needed suggestions/concerns with the state of WvW. 70% of the threads on the wrong page are about a topic like this.

That is a problem. When there is nothing good to say about your game mode that is a huge problem.

It literally shows you right there the majority of players are NOT happy with the state of the gamemode they play.

atheria.2837:

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

DeadlySynz.3471:

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

WvW is going to be very deserted for the majority of the summer I imagine. With major fluctuations in server activity. Right now on Jade Quarry, we are constantly outnumbered (or at least in EBG, where I spend most of my time) while the other two servers seem to be running 50+ man zergs.
Bear in mind that isn’t a complaint, just an observation, and I really feel that this will continue for the next couple of months. Who knows, next week it might be us that outnumbers them, I don’t know.
Either way, I wouldn’t say WvW is dying it’s just less active because of summer and the recent PvE release (Dry Top.)

On TC, we seem to be outnumbered 3 out of the 4 maps, and lately I havn’t seen us tick higher than 175. I do believe, this will continue long through summer. I know of a couple of large guilds that have left the game permanently.

You were saying :P. But in all seriousness, yeah, the PPT for all of the servers has been pretty wild lately. It’s kind of fun going in not knowing whether you’re going to be dominating or being disowned though.

Oh and here’s one of BG as well.

Ohhhhh, I have a few of those with *JQ and BG at the same time*.

There is no match for JQ, they are allowing BG to win this week – my gosh it’s obvious.

Not so obvious that I’d noticed, but obvious enough to state it in a condescending tone apparently.
And reading through your other posts on this thread it seems pretty clear to me that your attitude towards this whole situation is the problem, not the game. Instead of crying “outnumbered” take a break or laugh at it. I solo roam all the time… Far more than anything else I do. And zergs will wipe me many, many times. It gets frustrating certainly but instead of bad mouthing TC or BG or taking it out on fellow forum goer’s I prefer to laugh it off.
And for the record, I had been careful about what I said when I posted those photos because I didn’t want any one to think I was being rude. But, as usual, there’s always one person with a stick up their kitten (you.)

Ya I’ll say it’s dying, I have never seen on reset night, all 4 maps outnumbered 2.5hrs into reset. If that doesn’t spell a dying game mode (or game) I don’t know what does. Even last summer I don’t remember this happening.

whats get’s me with the outnumber buff still has the No gear damage on down. when repair’s are free why not make it the attacking side with more number’s gets less karma or give us more Damage.

DeadlySynz.3471:

Ya I’ll say it’s dying, I have never seen on reset night, all 4 maps outnumbered 2.5hrs into reset. If that doesn’t spell a dying game mode (or game) I don’t know what does. Even last summer I don’t remember this happening.

Wait… so if you are outnumbered on every map, wouldn’t that mean that there are plenty of people on the opposing servers?

It might simply be a case of your server “dying” rather than the whole game.

Maybe it’s just resting it’s eyes..?

lordkrall.7241:

DeadlySynz.3471:

Ya I’ll say it’s dying, I have never seen on reset night, all 4 maps outnumbered 2.5hrs into reset. If that doesn’t spell a dying game mode (or game) I don’t know what does. Even last summer I don’t remember this happening.

Wait… so if you are outnumbered on every map, wouldn’t that mean that there are plenty of people on the opposing servers?

It might simply be a case of your server “dying” rather than the whole game.

Well it wouldn’t be the 1st time a T1 server bit the dust; however, judging from what I’m reading and hearing, there are multiple ones going through the same thing. I know they aren’t transfers as quite a few guilds have up and left the game completely.

The other 2 T1 servers don’t seem to be lacking, they looked to be completely full judging from the numbers I saw out there.