Guild Wars 2

Would have been nice with a heads up you were taking them away when taking them away from 100% world completion.
Wasent much but 1 transmute stone and some seige but still was something.

i dont understand why they removed the map completition reward too

not like it hurting me
but i dont see the need for it

Once again…another big middle finger to the WvW community.

Let’s not force WvW on all the PvE puppy dogs, so lets remove WvW maps from the world completion. Anet, can we remove the PvE maps from world completion for all the WvW players? Or are you just going to keep spiting on another side of your community?

you kitten right i’m salty right now

Orangensaft.7139:

i dont understand why they removed the map completition reward too

not like it hurting me
but i dont see the need for it

They’re trying to make the WvW maps as worthless as possible so hopefully everyone will stop playing it so they can finally kill the game mode…and/or make the “new” borderlands map more exciting so more people buy the expansion.

there was a heads up on the 13th when they posted in the news section on the site.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/changes-to-world-completion/

The WvW maps will now behave like other maps not required for world completion, such as Heart of the Mists

that kind of implied that there would be no rewards for completing them.

What was it hurting to leave them there and not count them to world completion?
wvw maps were always the best odds of a key on completion for me.
So sad………

I am pretty sure this change has more to do with their internal map completion structure than just flat out removing the rewards because they could. They probably couldn’t find a solution in between the two systems.

The map rewards really should have stayed in place. Nothing wrong with giving some siege and transmutation charges to WvW players when they complete a map.

lololol anet is kitten ed if they do kitten ed if they don’t. people have been complaining for ages about having to complete the wvw maps to get map completion. now they make it not required and people complain about that. as someone who mainly plays wvw I’m glad they took it out. it is quite irritating to hear every 5 mins, “but commander I need that poi or that vista”.

Yeah, there was no reason to remove the rewards. It’s not like they were breaking GW2’s economy or anything.

Adahilia.3678:

lololol anet is kitten ed if they do kitten ed if they don’t. people have been complaining for ages about having to complete the wvw maps to get map completion. now they make it not required and people complain about that. as someone who mainly plays wvw I’m glad they took it out. it is quite irritating to hear every 5 mins, “but commander I need that poi or that vista”.

What people are complaining/surprised about is that they could’ve simply removed the maps from counting against World completion without removing each maps’ completion bonus.

so no, it’s not a case of “kitten ed if you do, kitten ed if you don’t”.

Seriously.. no rewards? What happen to the idea of rewarding players for time spent? So, basically you’re telling us WvW map completion is useless and a waste of time. Thanks..

Anet certainly didn’t spend any time thinking about the reward structure for WvW (it only takes a third grader to see the ridiculousness of Yak Slapper). Why would anyone be surprised that they cutout the wvw mapping and replaced it with nothing.

Linken.6345:

Would have been nice with a heads up you were taking them away when taking them away from 100% world completion.
Wasent much but 1 transmute stone and some seige but still was something.

Actually it’s a chance at black lion keys too. Really bad move ANet, really bad move.

My wife keeps telling me that Anet appears to be trying to kill WvW and i keep telling her she’s crazy, but…

well…

yeah. Not sure what removing the reward for completing the WvW maps does. i mean seriously, I’d say they’d deserve a better reward since you have to complete them while trying not to die.

I mean really. Were people in WvW getting too many rewards for playing WvW?

Also, there was absolutely no reason for them to remove the list of items to complete on the map. It was nice to see what you still needed on the maps, and many of us will continue to complete maps even though it isn’t required any longer. It’s like they just want to troll players.

As a mainly PvEer; this blows. It was only a couple of blueprints, a trans charge and a few badges… I guess I’ll just buy a few thousand from the vendor instead.

In a way it makes sense to remove the rewards for map completion, as it distracts from the actual game mode somewhat. But otherwise I don’t understand why they left all the exploration things in that basically serve no purpose other than showing names and such. PoI’s you can at least ping and such for locations, but the amount of skill points, the vistas really don’t add anything. So following some of the reasoning to remove map completion rewards, why are those things there anyway? Why not automatically fully explore the WvW map for everyone if exploring in these maps isn’t really a “thing”?

I don’t understand why such a thing which was complained about for 2 years suddenly needs to change now. It doesn’t hugely improve anything if you ask me. It just feels like “if you complain about it long enough, it will change eventually.” And to be honest I would rather see a stronger stance from ArenaNet, and stand behind their initial design rather than change after change after change. There’s so little consistency it’s a little bit worrying.

nottsgman.8206:

there was a heads up on the 13th when they posted in the news section on the site.
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/changes-to-world-completion/

The WvW maps will now behave like other maps not required for world completion, such as Heart of the Mists

that kind of implied that there would be no rewards for completing them.

What about maps like Southsun, don’t you get rewards for that map but its still not counted towards 100% map completion?

They could add map completion rewards for every map. It’s still time spent in the game and therefore it should be rewarded. It certainly isn’t going to blow their economy if they did and players aren’t going to complain about it. All in all, it’s a win-win situation.

I’m pretty aggravated by this, particularly since there was no notice. I have at least one map in which all I needed to do was go grab a PoI and skillpoint in the corner and haven’t done so because I could do so at any time so there was no rush. Had I known that this was coming I could have gone and done that, but they did not announce this change in advance and nobody even knew when the patch would be coming, at that. There was no need for this change in the first place, and absolutely no reason not to warn of it. Talk about pulling the rug out from under people.

Why not try to make a separate map comp for wvw, some AP, its own title and a blue star next to your name when in wvw, would be way better than just removing all the map rewards.

Removing WvW map completion from World completion is one thing, but removing the rewards for WvW map completion is another! They didnt have to remove the rewards at all. Just another example of the devs not knowing the WvW community.

I say remove the buffs PvE gets from our hard work in WvW, make it so the buffs are in WvW only.

Hexin.5603:

What about maps like Southsun, don’t you get rewards for that map but its still not counted towards 100% map completion?

You don’t, actually. None of the new PvE maps give you rewards for completing them. Like a previous poster mentioned it’s likely because of how the map completion reward system is set up (map completions only give rewards if they’re associated with the world completion progress).

That being said, it’s ridiculous that WvW map completions don’t give rewards anymore. There should already be a secondary map completion reward system in place that WvW can hook into, especially if ANet plans to add more maps in the future.

Celtic Lady.3729:

They could add map completion rewards for every map. It’s still time spent in the game and therefore it should be rewarded. It certainly isn’t going to blow their economy if they did and players aren’t going to complain about it. All in all, it’s a win-win situation.

Totally agree with this, as a slightly fanatical must get every thing type of player I enjoy getting every POI, Vista, skillpoint etc regardless if there is a reward or not, I always get them In southsun, drytop, silverwastes for all my chars just cos I like things completed BUT I do think anet should stop being so scrooge about it and reward players for doing this, a little bit of love like this would go a long way.

Think this was their golden opportunity to remove rewards too with the wvw completion. Afterall you get a transmute charge with a chance of a BL key which are sold on the TP. Kinda like the “keyfarm nerf”.