Guild Wars 2

The match up system is still so broken. I personally am getting sick of fighting the same 2 servers week after week. All the merging has done was kill the possibility of getting a fresh match every few weeks.
It now looks like it will take months to get a new match up. I really hope this is corrected sooner rather than later. It is making it hard to log in and repeat the same type of week that keeps on reoccurring like ground hog day.

I am not sure of a good fix suggestion but I for one hate the way it is currently.

This isn’t a result of server links, but of Glicko settling.

Facing different servers every week would mean the likelihood of facing one with a vastly higher population(better coverage) goes up. This leads to not wanting to play.

As before there are servers that are on the boundaries on any given matchup. They have too little population(or weaker coverage) to face the servers in the tier above and too many for the tier they slotted into leading to same server winning every match.

Linking leads to less servers overall thus less tiers and even less variety in matchups. Not linking leads to a greater variance in populations and coverage and empty maps where few are playing at lower tiers.

All stating the obvious to be sure but it not an easy nut to crack.

Chaba.5410:

This isn’t a result of server links, but of Glicko settling.

and the glicko rating is primarily the result of populations.

so all you need to do is convince ppl to spread out evenly and we will have match up variance.

Synosius.9876:

Chaba.5410:

This isn’t a result of server links, but of Glicko settling.

and the glicko rating is primarily the result of populations.

so all you need to do is convince ppl to spread out evenly and we will have match up variance.

Yeah this. For many servers, going up a tier means getting wrecked, going down a tier means wrecking everything and staying in current tier means same match ups every week or two.

Reh.5986:

Synosius.9876:

Chaba.5410:

This isn’t a result of server links, but of Glicko settling.

and the glicko rating is primarily the result of populations.

so all you need to do is convince ppl to spread out evenly and we will have match up variance.

Yeah this. For many servers, going up a tier means getting wrecked, going down a tier means wrecking everything and staying in current tier means same match ups every week or two.

I’ve typically observed that Players won’t take it upon themselves to “spread out evenly”.

Fixed 3 Way Fight Model & Tiers is to blame for this.

Players wanting to be on the team that Wins more…makes them stack to the Strongest of the 3 in each Tier.

WvW as it is currently implemented systematically will continue to lead to chronic Population Inbalance & Stale Match-Ups…imho

Possible Better Long Term Solution – Google Search – Reboot Base Map Mechanic

Not sure what region the OP is in but before the server merge my server would be matched up against the same 2 servers for months (maybe even over a year). This isn’t a new problem and not easy to fix. Fresh match-ups mean blowout match-ups. It’s a hard system to make satisfy everyone.

I suspect he’s EU, we had variation almost every week.

Jayne.9251:

I suspect he’s EU, we had variation almost every week.

Yeah seems like this linking might not have been a good idea for EU. Or maybe they should’ve just linked the lower tiers.

Maybe with so few tiers they should go back to winner moves up, loser goes down for awhile. There’s always going to be uneven matches but at least having variety will keep things fresh.

Puck.9612:

Maybe with so few tiers they should go back to winner moves up, loser goes down for awhile. There’s always going to be uneven matches but at least having variety will keep things fresh.

Naw, then people will scream about unfair matches re: population disparity. They tried that one tournament and forum was rife with unhappy people.

Jayne.9251:

Puck.9612:

Maybe with so few tiers they should go back to winner moves up, loser goes down for awhile. There’s always going to be uneven matches but at least having variety will keep things fresh.

Naw, then people will scream about unfair matches re: population disparity. They tried that one tournament and forum was rife with unhappy people.

That was a tournament where people were a lot more worried about losing, and it was before linking when their was a much bigger difference in population.

I’m not saying do it and never look back. I’m saying with all the beta testing going on it might be worth a try. Especially since they are going to be working on a scoring change which will give servers without an oceanic crew a fighting chance.

That’s why their thinking of adding worlds with lower population caps. I for one would take the free transfer to help them balance out the link-ups.

Jayne.9251:

I suspect he’s EU, we had variation almost every week.

T1 same match for 3 weeks, T4 same match for over a month now.. That’s basically NA right now so much variation lol

displayname.8315:

That’s why their thinking of adding worlds with lower population caps. I for one would take the free transfer to help them balance out the link-ups.

What good is a free transfer if your sidekick server could be linked with a different host server next week? Putting you in a different alliance and possibly a different tier based solely on a population number that you can’t see or predict.

The whole system needs blown up and re-designed. Limiting player choice in any way is not the answer. The best system is going to be the one where players get to choose who they want to fight with or against EACH week.

Find another way to make gems money Anet because this way is punishing players that want to play your game and have a good time.

Synosius.9876:

Chaba.5410:

This isn’t a result of server links, but of Glicko settling.

and the glicko rating is primarily the result of populations.

so all you need to do is convince ppl to spread out evenly and we will have match up variance.

Do you recall the population on your server when the server links started and everyone came out to play and try it then for the next three weeks after that? Some of that population loss is a result of the staleness.

Baratta.1083:

The match up system is still so broken. I personally am getting sick of fighting the same 2 servers week after week. All the merging has done was kill the possibility of getting a fresh match every few weeks.
It now looks like it will take months to get a new match up. I really hope this is corrected sooner rather than later. It is making it hard to log in and repeat the same type of week that keeps on reoccurring like ground hog day.

I am not sure of a good fix suggestion but I for one hate the way it is currently.

Like some of us have been saying world linking is a band aid, the same problems as before will recur. Its happening now.

Vermillion.4061:

Jayne.9251:

I suspect he’s EU, we had variation almost every week.

T1 same match for 3 weeks, T4 same match for over a month now.. That’s basically NA right now so much variation lol

Yeah I meant prior to the glicko adjustment. It’s too bad, we were doing fine before.

Sol.6213:

displayname.8315:

That’s why their thinking of adding worlds with lower population caps. I for one would take the free transfer to help them balance out the link-ups.

What good is a free transfer if your sidekick server could be linked with a different host server next week? Putting you in a different alliance and possibly a different tier based solely on a population number that you can’t see or predict.

The whole system needs blown up and re-designed.

Restricting max population and adding new worlds for people to settle could be a handy tool for anet to stop the badwagons.

Being able to predict is what caused these matchups to get old. People for some reason saw the need to stack and politic… during a beta lol. Maybe limiting player choice is the right answer after all.