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Posted by: Aradia.5389

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In terms of server vs server. But enough that you may be in a server that has low numbers, but even if you have the manpower, it means little when the two other opposing servers combine forces to take your server out. How exactly is this balanced? Is anet going to address this in any way or form? Or are we just expected to grin and bare it?

Here is a snapshot of Jade Quarry and Blackgate combining forces to take Yak’s Bend garrison on 09/15/15:

To the right you have Blackgate and to the left you have Jadequarry. Notice how they stay on their respective side. And once Yak’s forces were decimated Blackgate simply strolled out and let Jadequarry claim the garrison. This shouldnt be allowed.

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Posted by: Tajz.9826

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Lol. It’s called WvWvW for a reason. The map actually designed ment to be 2v1 in each of the borderland.
There were a lot more coordinated, shared TS, continuously 2v1 before, during S2 for weeks (entire season). For this match BGvsJQvsYB, that doesnt even come remotely close to those incidence. In your said picture, BG just allowed JQ to capture it to reset the keep (mutual benefit for both), that’s about it.

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Posted by: msalakka.4653

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#tieroneproblems

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Posted by: Reverence.6915

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#tieroneproblems

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@OP: It’s balanced that way so that 1 server will not overwhelm another server through sheer numbers, but ANet didn’t give much incentive for attacking the strongest server. That being said though, YB’s commanders are dumb and keep bringing the 2v1 on themselves through stupid map play.

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Posted by: Wasabi Kitty.8247

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Maybe both servers just see Yak’s bend as easy points? They don’t seem very coordinated and definitely appear to be the weaker server in WvWvW.

For some reason there’s always a group of Yak’s Bend players in eternal battlegrounds that will defend their keep and towers to the death. Except in the same amount of time they’re getting completely steamrolled and lose all of their stuff in their borderlands.

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Posted by: Mishi.7058

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In WvW there is always some point during a match where you see 1 of the 3 servers passing by or using the 2nd, of the 3 servers in wvw to take an objective from the remaining of the 3.

Now it is not new, and does happen to and against all 3 servers.

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Posted by: FogLeg.9354

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To the right you have Blackgate and to the left you have Jadequarry. Notice how they stay on their respective side. And once Yak’s forces were decimated Blackgate simply strolled out and let Jadequarry claim the garrison. This shouldnt be allowed.

I would argue against several points here.

First you assume in 3-server matchup there is some law or rule against 2 servers combining forces againts third server. There is none. If you actually want to fight against only one server, we would have straight server vs server system. The whole wvwvw is designed for the possible short-or longterm alliances.

It happens daily when one server sends large force to attack other server and third server sneaks quickly behind empty enemy lines to take some objectives. Is it unfair? is it balance problem? Or smart thinking?

In a fight against 2 opponents you should just always assume you are fighting against both of them. Even when one enemy looks friendly and helpful, they are probably only looking easy way to betray you and backstab on first chance.

Second, (and just for a fun, lets suppose this is against the rule) you say anet should do something and not allow this. How would developer detect this? And what would they possibly do? 3-way battles are generally most fun, attacking one server first to kill them off is very often quickest way to victory. Forces leaving battleground could be for many different reasons – ts servers crashing, commanders getting dced, more help needed in other borderlands. Can you prove this was not random event? And what punishment would you propose? Would developers need to give you back your lost garrison and increase your score because fight was maybe unfair?

When same servers fight each other for weeks and months over and over, people get bored and start to look for other ways to make matches more interesting. They duel. They have GvG fights. They form alliances with other servers. They post angry things on forum about how boring and unfair wvw is. Yet, when matches are mixed up, and servers with hugely different population are thrown against each other, fights are again boring and unfair and people start to look for different ways…

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Posted by: Dhemize.8649

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Maybe both servers just see Yak’s bend as easy points? They don’t seem very coordinated and definitely appear to be the weaker server in WvWvW.

For some reason there’s always a group of Yak’s Bend players in eternal battlegrounds that will defend their keep and towers to the death. Except in the same amount of time they’re getting completely steamrolled and lose all of their stuff in their borderlands.

There’s a massive timezone in which YB is a ghost town and it’s typically exploited for easy PvD so the other T1 servers can finally ascend to tier 0.

That group of YB defending on EBG is pretty much it. There’s nobody else online.

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Posted by: X T D.6458

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When YB was steamrolling, ktraining, and spawncamping FA and SoS, why werent any Yaks complaining about the “lack of balance”. Guess what YB the free rides over, suck it up and stop acting like crybabies.

I say what needs to be said, get used to it.
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Posted by: Dhemize.8649

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When YB was steamrolling, ktraining, and spawncamping FA and SoS, why werent any Yaks complaining about the “lack of balance”. Guess what YB the free rides over, suck it up and stop acting like crybabies.

You must have selective reading or an agenda to hate everything YB related. There were many who were bored of them and aware of the imbalance.

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Posted by: X T D.6458

X T D.6458

When YB was steamrolling, ktraining, and spawncamping FA and SoS, why werent any Yaks complaining about the “lack of balance”. Guess what YB the free rides over, suck it up and stop acting like crybabies.

You must have selective reading or an agenda to hate everything YB related. There were many who were bored of them and aware of the imbalance.

What I hate is hypocrites with that old ridiculous attitude of " well its ok when we do it, but how dare anyone do it to us, I need to complain to the world"

I say what needs to be said, get used to it.
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Posted by: Dhemize.8649

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When YB was steamrolling, ktraining, and spawncamping FA and SoS, why werent any Yaks complaining about the “lack of balance”. Guess what YB the free rides over, suck it up and stop acting like crybabies.

You must have selective reading or an agenda to hate everything YB related. There were many who were bored of them and aware of the imbalance.

What I hate is hypocrites with that old ridiculous attitude of " well its ok when we do it, but how dare anyone do it to us, I need to complain to the world"

If you want to hate yourself then that’s a different topic. I was only commenting about how many on YB were fully aware of the imbalance and posted they didn’t like being bored. Again, selective reading.

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Posted by: dancingmonkey.4902

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In terms of server vs server. But enough that you may be in a server that has low numbers, but even if you have the manpower, it means little when the two other opposing servers combine forces to take your server out. How exactly is this balanced? Is anet going to address this in any way or form? Or are we just expected to grin and bare it?

Here is a snapshot of Jade Quarry and Blackgate combining forces to take Yak’s Bend garrison on 09/15/15:

To the right you have Blackgate and to the left you have Jadequarry. Notice how they stay on their respective side. And once Yak’s forces were decimated Blackgate simply strolled out and let Jadequarry claim the garrison. This shouldnt be allowed.

Hey, you got a nice picture of me in there, thanks OP.

Now the fact of the matter is, you do not have a clue what your talking about. One server took the place. They then engaged the other server, who retreated out of the location, because there is now RI. They were engaged as they left, and a battle ensued outside.

You are conveniently leaving all of that out, because it doesn’t suit your agenda. Misleading half truths are not the best way to get a point across.